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Strip Club Shifts and Bartender Battles: Adult Entertainment, Political Rants, and Barroom Banter

August 18, 2024 James Tucker & Santiago Lopez Season 2 Episode 38

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We start off by asking a rather spicy question: Have strip clubs lost their charm, or have they just moved online? Guido and I kick off this episode with a lively conversation about the evolution of adult entertainment and how platforms like OnlyFans are reshaping the landscape. We also share our changing views on such entertainment venues as we get older, adding a touch of nostalgia and humor to the mix. 

Next, we tackle a topic that's been brewing behind the bar—daytime versus nighttime bartenders. Ever wondered why your favorite bartender might seem a bit grumpy during your lunch hour visit? We get into the nitty-gritty of tip disparities, stocking battles, and the everyday frictions among bar staff. Plus, we share some wild stories from a legendary night out with Brooke’s Uncle Johnny, who gives us a peek into his rocket engine manufacturing career and the sky-high cost of living in California. We tried bringing Tia Hilton into the conversation, but hit some technical snags—stay tuned, though, as her insights on Lorain County are worth the wait!

Finally, we don’t shy away from the tough stuff. We're diving into the murky waters of government corruption and accountability in Lorain, Ohio. We call out wasteful spending, potential bankruptcy, and the economic strain higher property taxes are putting on residents. We raise our voices about the urgent need for political figures to step up—or step down—and the critical role of informed voting. Whether it's property rezoning controversies or the impact of raised property values, we stress the importance of community involvement and holding elected officials accountable. Tune in for a rollercoaster of laughs, insights, and some hard-hitting truths about local governance.

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Speaker 1:

we're number one. Jimmy, you've been a cheap ass. You know I'm like damn, you heard it here first right, we're the best you know. They say people that cuss are more honest. So I'm honest, motherfucker, put the fish away. Reggie, it don't even hurt to give birthday, not for me. Nothing to it. Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2:

Come on, I'm ready, I'm ready, I want to do it.

Speaker 1:

I wear a thong I got one on right now.

Speaker 2:

You want to see Jimmy and Geet? Mad House Bar Talks. Baby, that is a bunch of shit. If you ask me, that doesn't make no sense. Good morning, madhouse Bar Talk. Here we are Exciting show today. Guido's so excited he had to get a second cup of coffee, so he's not even here right now. And, yeah, we got a pretty exciting show today. For the first time, we're going to bring in a phone caller guest. We're going to bring in Tia Hilton at some point here in the show and let her talk about what's going on in Lorain County. Yell at us or something, probably. She likes to yell at everybody. Well, she yells at me, I think. I don't know. So we'll see what she has to. Say's always fighting for stuff, trying to figure out things and and uh, we're hoping that it goes, goes well. Um, good morning, guido. Morning morning. You got your coffee. Yes, sir, all right, you excited to see uh to talk with tia today yeah don't sound so excited.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you could calm down a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm just so excited no, she's a, she's a character for sure, oh yeah, no question, definitely a character sometimes, sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes she's okay, sometimes she's hyper. I I don't agree with everything she says, but she's definitely, uh, definitely, uh, making sure everybody hears her voice, that's for sure yeah did you? Uh, did you find this dream? Let's make sure we're streaming. I know we're always screwing this up in the mornings, or we have been since we started doing it on youtube. I'm hoping that it works now. Did you find us? No, no, did not find us. We've got three viewers right now so somebody must have found us somewhere.

Speaker 2:

Somehow somebody found us. There you go, so how was your week?

Speaker 1:

Steady. It was a good week. It was a good week.

Speaker 2:

It was a good week, yeah, just work, just working and doing, doing your thing. Yeah, you didn't get rained out, no, no, no, that's pretty good. We were, uh, I had a freaking rough week as far as, uh, I ended up with my one buddy wanted to go to the strip club. Like tuesday, me and amanda are out here. We ended up we come up here to meet with them drinking and then he wants to go to strip club. We end up going to strip club and it's just, it's not really my thing, that much it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, when I was younger I guess I liked it a little bit better. Maybe I was thinking but I'm looking at it and I'm like man, this is like the quality of strippers. It's not what it used to be. Or am I old and don't care no more. I'm trying to figure out. Do I look at them and I just have no interest because I'm getting too old and grown up? Or has the quality of stripper went way the hell down? Because, you know, the first time we went to a local strip club here and it's like you know, I mean you can say, okay, local strip club, kind of like, known for being kind of ratchet, so that's okay. You know, I mean maybe that's not going to be the best, but then we went again Saturday night. Same guy. He must be on one. I'm not sure what his deal was, but we go to another one. We end up going to Christie's in Cleveland.

Speaker 3:

And.

Speaker 2:

I honestly I didn't think that it was like it was the highest quality there either. I don't understand, like I don't. I don't. I'm trying'm trying to figure out, like, what the hell happened. Like I used to go there and think, man, you know all these women are, you know you'd walk into Christie's and you'd be like holy shit, you know what I mean. Usually you walk in there and you go damn, you know what I mean Every time. But walk in there, I go. What the hell is going on around here? I mean not going on around here, I mean not that they're, I'm not saying they're horrible, but I mean, I just it's not like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like, I hate this, be like that person a strip club guy?

Speaker 1:

I just never was.

Speaker 2:

I never was, you know what I didn't go to one till I was like freaking god, I don't even know how I might have been almost 30 by the time I actually went to a strip club. I never went. When I was real young, that never happened. That wasn't my thing. But I was driving yesterday and I thought maybe I know the answer.

Speaker 1:

Well, what did you come up with?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm thinking that maybe these freaking girls.

Speaker 1:

The good ones are doing the OnlyFans and stuff instead. Yeah, they're probably making more money comfortable at home, safer.

Speaker 2:

Right. I mean, do you think that's what it is like? They're just like at home. They don't have to like dance on some gross motherfucker right, all right I mean, am I wrong or no?

Speaker 1:

ah, that's a good point, but I don't know either way, you don't know. No, it's a very good point you're making, but I don't. I don't go to strip clubs.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if that's not giving me a link. When I do that, they give me the thing to go to it. It isn't there. It's not. I got to fix it.

Speaker 1:

It's got to somehow get fixed. I got a text saying that we're on.

Speaker 2:

We're on, but it's not. I know we're on, but it's not fucking linked to it. This is the type of shit that goes on 24, 7 with this bullshit. So, all right, so if we go to youtube, let me go put another. Let me go find youtube and find the link. This is annoying with this stuff because now it's been how many that have went on and I mean I just haven't seen any. Any. Uh, I haven't seen any. Uh, uh, what's the word I haven't seen.

Speaker 2:

It's not giving me like the. It's giving me a link there, but that link is just not working. There's TST is there. She said the link didn't work. Yeah, the same thing. Me, like that. It's giving me a link there, but that link is just not working. There's tst is there. She said the link didn't work. Yeah, the same thing. So I'm seeing her comment there and it's saying the link doesn't work and it's pissing me off.

Speaker 2:

Why can't I find the link? I want the. I want the link, right? I'm tired of this bullshit. It's not right the. I mean it's giving me a link here. That's the link I put on there, but why is that that one not working? I don't understand. I mean it's just. This is over and over. I keep doing this and it's really ticking me off, but I don't know where I would find the correction to this, like how to find the right link to put on there so that it goes to it. Maybe if I search YouTube, maybe I'll do that, because that must be what they did, right? Just searched Madhouse Bar Talks on YouTube. Right, that's got to be what they did.

Speaker 1:

Other people are texting me. It came right up so I don't know. I tried. I can't get it Really.

Speaker 2:

What the hell, man? I don't understand why it's now See, I see the live right there. I see it Now. Where's the link for it? Da, da, da, da, da share. Ooh, there we go, I'm getting it. I share. Oh, there we go, I'm getting it.

Speaker 3:

I'm getting it see that's not the link I have.

Speaker 2:

Right there it is. I gotta learn how to get this better. That's the problem. I gotta do this before we're on air. Yeah, why do? Why do it before when you could do?

Speaker 2:

it after yeah, there we go, all right. So now I got it, I'm going to change it on here right now. Edit post I'm going to change it. Hopefully that will get everybody going. Now, there we go, and there it is All right. Now we're on and now I'm looking at it. I can see where it looks like. So now, if it doesn't do that, I should be able to be. I should be in better shape, because now I can kind of see what it's doing. So that should work. Tia posted it on our page for us too. Thank you, tia. We're going to get, we're going to talk to her a little bit here in a minute, but first we were talking about ugly strippers. No, I mean that that's the. That's the thing. I think that we did that we brought tia in the one time and had like the whole show with her. That's too much seriousness for us. Like we, we're like we just we just are too. We need just bits and pieces of seriousness.

Speaker 3:

We can't do a full show of seriousness.

Speaker 2:

We gotta talk shit unless it's serious.

Speaker 2:

We, we, yeah, but we don't want to be serious for a whole show. It's just not in our nature. But but on a serious note, another serious note these, these, uh, the girls at work here, like they, they're constantly like there's always bickering going on back and forth about who stocked, who cleaned good, who did this, who did that. And I have seen them actually compliment hey, I came in and it looked great in the morning. I've seen that go on on the app that we have. I've seen that going on. I've seen that going on.

Speaker 2:

And the thing is is like they don't understand like what you know, especially like a day girl. She's not making the tips and you know, like, say, a day girl is making 100 to 120 bucks or something, or maybe more. I don't know how much they make. Honestly, I mean 100%. But the nighttime they're going to make it three, four times that and they use a lot more beer and stuff like that. And there and there's like issues with like well, you know, I'm busier, so the girl that's slow in the morning can stock for me, like that. How does that make sense? You made all the money and sold all the beer. You're the one who got all the tips. How it make sense that the, that the girl that's not getting the tips and not getting the, the the money should stock for you. How does that make sense at all? And that's a.

Speaker 1:

That's the arguments they're trying to make, like they're making up their own rules as they go yeah, like it, just it, just it's.

Speaker 2:

It's aggravating, I mean it's, it's frustrating because it to me it's like, it's so common sense, like you made the money you stock your beer. It's that, it's, it's simple and I mean it. I know sometimes it happens where, like, maybe I don't have enough on stock, like because we'll run out of certain things, especially like Mike Ogle, he's a smart ass, he'll change just to mess up my whole system. He'll just switch, like he'll drink Bud Light and then all of a sudden he'll just see, I wonder if I can make him run out of Coors Light and just start drinking Coors Light.

Speaker 1:

So shit like that does go on and I obviously sometimes misjudge or miscalculate when I do it, you know, for the most part, this place is unpredictable, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but so there has been times where there's just not anything to stock. Or like yesterday, I had a bartend yesterday. Last night I was bartending and you know I seen there was no twisted tea. So I go back there and I grabbed twisted tea because I just ordered two cases of it. So I go back there and I stock the twisted tea up front there where I'm, because that's where I'm bartending is inside, so I stock it and then I get yelled at by malibu.

Speaker 2:

She's like you're gonna save some for me outside, or I didn't think about, I didn't know we were empty everywhere. You know what I mean. So I mean there's, there's things like that that do go on and I and I get that that that sometimes things aren't stocked for other reasons other than the fact that you just didn't get to it. You know what I mean. But yeah, I mean I don't see how there could ever be an issue with like you know, when sam p worked here, she was pretty good about like if she didn't do something, she'd shoot some money to somebody else to do it. You know what I mean. And you're making good money. I mean if you're making like, say, 400 bucks at night and a girl in the daytime making 100 and you want her to stock, fine, give her 50 bucks, at least something you know what I mean throw her a bone.

Speaker 2:

I mean I'm not saying make her rich, but I mean it fair is fair, I think, and I think that's should be common sense, I think. But it seems like the server and the other thing is like rolling silverware is an issue clearly, stuffing envelopes into the mail because it was a gun. It happened again. The envelopes were sticking out yesterday when I came in, not this morning, though I didn't notice them this morning. But yeah, I mean, just there's just a. I wish they could all get along and just be best friends. That'd be wonderful. You know what I mean, but it's not going to happen. I mean, girls are just catty anyways. Right, I mean usually, not always. I shouldn't say that. That's pretty sexist, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

No, no, pretty accurate.

Speaker 2:

It could be accurate and sexist. I mean. That could happen, it's a possibility, it's a real possibility.

Speaker 1:

Women are catty.

Speaker 2:

Do you think that's true, though? You think just like the hot girls though, seriously, is that true? They're like on OnlyF fans and they're just not going to strip clubs anymore. So now you're just getting the girls who put yourself in their try, only fans, and they're not making enough money so they go to the strip clubs I don't know how it works, but I'm just saying I don't know, I ain't in that life, I don't know, I just don't understand, like why it's there's a dramatic change to somebody like me who hasn't went, and then I go.

Speaker 2:

I'm like it's, it's like sticker shock, like if you were going probably every month for the last 10 years or something, you probably wouldn't even notice. But to go from, like, the last time I was there to this time, I go, whoa, what the hell happened well, like you said, the only fan it's.

Speaker 1:

It's a safer bet. You know. I'm saying you're in your own house or wherever you're at a motel, whatever you're doing some only fan shit.

Speaker 2:

There's no direct contact right yeah, there's no direct contact at all yeah, so and the lights are off in the strip club where you put lights on you on on only fans, Right, yeah, there's no direct contact at all. Yeah, so, and the lights are off in a strip club where you put lights on you on OnlyFans? Yeah, you know what I mean. They like light it up, they get the ring lights and shit. You know, I don't know. I'm just saying I think that might be what it is.

Speaker 1:

I really believe that might be what it is. I think there's a possibility.

Speaker 2:

Definitely OnlyFans the safety of it. Oh yeah, that's much safer. Well, kind of, maybe. Who knows, though, these creepy bastards will go and do like they will. You never know. They'll fucking get your IP or something, figure out where you live, fucking. Yeah, I would be scared to death of that myself. Like I mean, how do you make sure that they can't like locate you? I mean, you especially like just some girl that's like jumping on only fans or something like how do you go on there and you have your tech savvy enough to find out?

Speaker 1:

like make sure that you're like well, you would change your ip once in a while, right?

Speaker 2:

I don't know they can you do that, you can just change your ip, yeah how do you do that? I don't know, but you can do it. Okay, if you don't know, you think thatFans girl knows how to do that.

Speaker 1:

They know how to get on at OnlyFans. They better know. I'm just saying Plus, you know they talk to other girls that tell them stuff. You know what I'm saying. Well, every once in a while, click this. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe. Maybe they collaborate with each other.

Speaker 1:

The collaboration, the collaboration it could be. You might be right, who knows?

Speaker 2:

but I don't know, but I think that's the case and I don't look at. Only don't go, don't waste your money I'm telling you, yeah, it doesn't.

Speaker 2:

We went, my brother went and his wife went with us. My buddy, and it was his, his buddy's birthday, and we're all out, we're all there at christie's. He got limo service and all that down there and we go down there and he gets bottle service. He does the whole night, which isn't my thing really. Anyways, like I'm not into that, like I would just walk around, I'm fine with that. I like just like the whole bottle service VIP area.

Speaker 2:

But Brooke, dude, brooke is hilarious. Like I mean, we're in this bottle service area, we're just sitting there and we've got our own stripper pole right there at the bottle service. Like it's, it's right there, you got your own pole and little stage for you and brooke is just yelling at everybody like where's my bitches and my brother who like got up to go to work at four in the morning, like sleep on the couch? I mean the whole scene is just comical. I mean it's just like you're sitting there watching it and I mean we're all ready to go. You know what I mean. And they're like still doing it and the rest of it, like my brother obviously sleeping. We're like we're like we're okay, this is over, I'm done with it. We end up there till two. In fact we were gonna call an uber and amanda called like went on the uber app and she goes on there and it was like I think it was like gonna be at like 245 before it gets. So it's like we'll just take the limo back with them at that point. You know what I mean, because the place closed at 230. We're not gonna sit outside and that you wouldn't call. It is all I'm saying. It just doesn't. That's silliness. But yeah, it was. It was. It was quite a comical show. It definitely was a comical show. Anytime you got brooke with you, it's a comical show, brooke's hilarious.

Speaker 2:

And then we're on our way there. We're in the limo and I'm in the third row like in the back with brooke and amanda and brooke's, you know, dancing on a man doing her crazy shit, but she's trying to get him to play music for her to dance on him with. You know, they keep just like ignoring everything they say. Like they're up there trying to put it on the phone. They're just putting dumb shit on the phone the whole time. Like they're just putting like I mean I'm not saying dumb shit, but not dancer. I mean not like shake your ass music or twerk music or whatever, which is what they're at, and they're specifically asking for songs. They're just ignoring them, you know. So, they're just so. Then, of course, brooke is just talking shit.

Speaker 2:

It's, it was, it was something else. I mean, we're in, we're in a, we're in this like limo, which is basically like a Lincoln Navigator or whatever third-row seating Dude. We've got one of the guys sitting on my brother's lap, basically you know what I mean. It's like the whole thing is crazy and the DJ thing's going on. It was. The whole scene was comical all the way through. I mean, from start to finish we were laughing our asses off pretty good. And then on the way home, we were laughing pretty good About halfway and then about halfway everybody started nodding off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you could see the age setting in.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, the age was definitely setting in.

Speaker 1:

When Brooke worked here, she used to run around slapping these girls. Well, the girls would slap her ass. You know a good little. Oh no, you know, she lifted them up when she slapped their ass.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah like bitch, she'd light them up and she was always jumping them, popping them up on her butt, like pushing them up, like that. I mean it was she's a wreck when she's not a wreck. I don't mean a wreck, she's. She'll wreck shit when she starts going. Yeah, she's, she's funny as shit. But it was a good time. I mean it was fun to get out.

Speaker 2:

I had less fun going to Christie's than we did Tuesday when we went out, because when we went out Tuesday and Amanda hadn't went out in a while and Amanda was kind of on one, she was drinking that night. So Tuesday Amanda was like kind of she was drinking, having a good time, like relaxing, and it was good to see. She was all smiling, happy. Even the next day she was like in a good mood, like, yeah, I had fun last night, you know. But Saturday we were like, yeah, this is dumb and we come back here. We get back here at like 345. The limo brings us back. Malibu's got the whole outside. Is she's cleaning up outside or whatever she's doing.

Speaker 2:

I walk inside, inside hadn't even been touched yet, and I'm like, dude, I. I looked at a man, I go, should we help? I mean it was. There's no way I can't help right now. I mean, we're tired, we're like you know what I mean. It's four in the morning. We've been up since early like I'm like man, this sucks, but I gotta go. Usually I wouldn't do that, but four in the morning and I just like, yeah, I gotta go. I don't know what to tell you, I'll come check in the morning. And I did not come check in the morning, I was out, I was sleeping good. So, yeah, it was a little bit of a wild weekend for me. That's not my normal thing, so I'm not used to that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And that was our week and there wasn't much else that went on other than that that and working a little bit here and there. We went down to JD's event down at St Lad's. But that place is nice down there. I like St Lad's down there. That's kind of cool, like that pavilion, the bar he's got out there, that's a cool vibe. I really like it down there. We had fun down there. We're talking to brooke's. Uncle johnny was here and he was. I was talking to him, he was. He just moved here from california. He said too expensive. He said the retired, he's like nope, can't do it, gotta go. So they, they, that's like freaking shock to your atmosphere.

Speaker 2:

He said he worked at a place that made engines for was it arrow, arrow, arrow tying or something like that? I forget they made like rocket engines. He was like showing me all the different like are telling me all the different like rocket engines that they'd done, like the ones that go like put the satellites in the air and like that's pretty cool, like it's. But that's where he worked and now he's retired and he just was like yeah, it's too expensive out there, you just can't live. They're taxing you to death. So that was that was kind of cool interest. I always like talking to people like that. You know, older retired guys have kind of seen some shit been around.

Speaker 1:

I remember that old fireman that used to come in here. We was talking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh yeah, he was good, he was cool. I like that. I used to when I was young. Amanda's great grandpa he was a union electrician came here from Detroit originally, you know, and kind of helped the union get started out here and I used to love talking to that guy. He had went to games at Old League Park. I mean that's cool, like seeing Babe Ruth play at Old League Park. That is some cool shit. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

That's some really cool shit, and I always anyways, I find that kind of stuff interesting. You ready to put t on? We ready to do this? Go ahead. He laughs. He says go ahead. All right, we're gonna call tia right now. We'll see her. We'll see, get her on the phone. Once I get her on the phone, I'll get, uh, I'll lock her on so you guys can hear her too. So, um, she's got it. She's got some stuff she wants to talk about. It didn't go through what happened there. No, that was mine. That's you over there. Does it stop? Yeah, why is it still going? What?

Speaker 2:

No, there's something going on still, I don't hear nothing there. It goes right there. All right, here we go. I was hearing it, but I have my mics on. All right, can we hear Tia now? Are you there, tia? I mean, I'm trying to hear you, we're trying. Oh yeah, we can hear you. So how are you doing, tia?

Speaker 3:

I'm good. I'm good. It's like you guys are doing pretty good.

Speaker 2:

Well, we're just being ignorant people, like we always are, but that's why I would never run for public office because I'm too ignorant. Trust me, I'm on that. I I couldn't make a public office, would I try you? She's breaking up. Yeah, you're breaking up pretty bad.

Speaker 3:

Let me, let me hang up and we'll try and call back, okay, okay, all right, we're gonna try that again.

Speaker 2:

That didn't work out very well, that might be on her end though Hopefully she has a better spot that she can go to or something. Maybe We'll see. Yeah, that did not sound good at all. It's ringing now.

Speaker 3:

Can you hear me now?

Speaker 1:

Yeah you're still breaking up. Can you hear me?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can hear you. I mean, it just seems like it's kind of break going in and out a little bit, that's all.

Speaker 3:

Is this better for you? Can you hear?

Speaker 2:

me better. No, for some reason it's breaking up. I don't understand Wait.

Speaker 3:

I'm here, you can hear me. I had my air purging thing and that would help, but it obviously didn't.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think that matters because he's still doing it. Yeah, you're still breaking up. Yeah, it's like it's cutting in and out.

Speaker 1:

Unless that's the way you're talking.

Speaker 3:

I'm not sure. I honestly don't.

Speaker 2:

I've never heard her chop up, so I don't know, so I don't think that's the way she's talking. No, it's not supposed to be the way you're talking.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think we're okay, though I think it'll go through, I think I think on youtube while you're talking, how it looks yeah, it's like chopping up or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can't put youtube on while we're on there, because it'll just back feed in through and it'll. It'll be a real big mess. But yeah, it's for some reason it's cutting in and out. Really bad, I don't know. Do you have trouble with your?

Speaker 2:

phone service there ever before no, I I don't have trouble with it, not usually I wonder if, maybe, if I wonder if I turn that down a hair, maybe does that make a difference. Let's see, we turn her down a little bit. Maybe it's coming in too harsh on our end, I don't know. Anyways, technical difficulties. So what do you got going on in lorraine county to you well, a lot of things, a lot of things going on.

Speaker 3:

I am ready to start my recall of the lawyer, jack Bradley.

Speaker 2:

See, now that's a problem. See, there's a problem, because you said Jack Bradley, but you said a re-something and I couldn't hear anything else. Yeah, there's some bad connection here. That's not working out.

Speaker 3:

I'm getting ready to start a recall for Jackadley. I'm going to be moving him from you're going to recall jack.

Speaker 2:

How do you recall him? What's the? How does that work?

Speaker 3:

so, in order to recall any official, you have to get a amount of signature to put it on the to um voters to decide on and vote for.

Speaker 2:

Recall tia, we gotta tia tia, we gotta, we gotta stop this. We can't hear anything you're saying. It's just going in and out really bad. So we're gonna stop this. I don't know if we can find a better connection spot for you or something, and then we'll try it back in a little bit on the show, because that's, that's a that's, it's unbearable. You can't. You can't hear it.

Speaker 3:

Nobody could hear anything you're saying that's good, you call me whenever you figure out okay, all right, all right, it's, it's not it's, there's nothing for us to figure out.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's on her end. Yeah, there's. It's like just cutting in and out. I don't, I don't understand what's going on. Yeah, I mean, that's not. I don't think it's on her end. Yeah, there's, it's like just cutting in and out. I don't, I don't understand what's going on. Yeah, I mean that's not. I don't know what the heck to do with. That sounds like she's in a basement. I mean, I talk with people on the phone through this before to test it. I tested it. Everybody came through just fine. Does it still work? Like, does that phone number still work? Remember you used to be able to call and get the phone the the time and temperature. Let's check it. How do you do it? What's the number?

Speaker 1:

again was it two, four, six one, two, three, four yeah, you're gonna call the ambulance or something. Go ahead, trap complete this call. You must file the area see that sounds clear that's cutting in and out too, so what's the problem?

Speaker 2:

why is it doing that? That's doing it too, hear it yeah yeah, let's, uh, let's shut that down. Let me see what's going on here. Why is that doing that?

Speaker 1:

call her direct and just said about a the mic, that's all and it's.

Speaker 2:

I've never had an issue with that before, but when I first tried to call her the first time, it didn't want to, it didn't go through, and then it started doing that same thing.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. I just set up another mic and put the phone by it all right, is she there now I can yeah, that's I was listening to.

Speaker 3:

that was totally not voice on that's. On that you were right. I wasn't supposed to sound like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like it's still doing it to us and I just reset my phone and everything.

Speaker 3:

I don't understand why it's doing that. I'm not sure. I have no clue. I'm not a very tech-y person.

Speaker 2:

No, me neither. That's why I shouldn't be doing this stuff. No, I mean, I think we're okay now. I, I think we'll be okay, we're, we're trying it. I I mean, I guess we're gonna have to try it, I guess I don't know, but I don't know what to do with it if it, if it keeps doing that, I hope, hope people will be able to hear it.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean I get it, I get it yeah maybe, maybe, if you go, maybe because of what we're doing here, maybe it's the like, like if you try and calm, stay calm and not talk real loud you know what I mean maybe that, maybe that'll help. That might be what it is. I know know you get excited, but you know it might help. So you said you're trying to remove Jack Bradley from office.

Speaker 3:

I am. So what? There's reason behind it. We are being a citizen mission to remove Jack Brown from office. I'm sure, if you pay attention to what's going on in the city brain, but in by 2025, the brain will be banked.

Speaker 2:

The city will be bankrupt.

Speaker 3:

The city will be bankrupt. The city will be bankrupt. The city will be bankrupt, absolutely. The city is going to broker. If you remember the wasteful spending with the COVID dollars. They're not utilizing the riverfront there. The economic development has not happened, restaurants closing Like it's ridiculous. The city of Lorain is a $60 million city, $60 million city being ran right into the ground and I think a lot of citizens don't understand. It's now or never, Like this is our only shot to stop this, because you've been around a long time, guido. You've been around a long time. I'm only 38. As long as I have lived in Ohio, all I've heard about the city of Ohio and the county is corruption For 50 years being ran by guys lawyers, really, you know that have zero interest in citizens. They all care about what's best for them and I've heard this a lot. What'd you say?

Speaker 2:

I said, yeah, I mean we've seen a lot of that. I mean I think that's pretty common in a lot of. I mean I think that's it's not just Lorraine, yeah, I think that's pretty common in a lot of.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I think that's a. It's not just Lorraine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's pretty much nature of the beast, with politics.

Speaker 3:

You are 100% right, but you have neighbors in an administration, not just in Leroy, but you have it in Avon too. You stopped the housing elements from going in Avon off off of um side road. Um, they try to sneak things in like the issue they're having at the none of the citizens interest being put first, not getting public request. They're not doing, they get an off and they completely the citizen. It happens far too often, but now I think a lot of people waking up and seeing what it really is which they need to but they'll be out of debt by then because they just raised everybody's property values like by double.

Speaker 3:

That's a shit.

Speaker 2:

That's going to give them a lot of extra income.

Speaker 3:

I think they're going to spend wisely, to think they will, cause they're not.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying they will, but I mean. I mean, I'm just saying if you double your income, usually you could do a little better with it, Right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, even if you do worse with it, you still got double the income, so the balance is going to be different.

Speaker 3:

You, the balance is going to be different. You would think that property, that pretty increased spacecraft, the assessment that came around, nothing but code robbery it is. They're supposed to do proper investments. I believe it's three or four years, I'm not exactly sure which one. The last one I was done in 2013 or 19. Yeah, they told me four years, I'm not exactly sure which one. The last one I was done in 2018 or 19.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they told me six years On my letter that I got for the restaurant, I got a letter that said mine went up I think it was over 50 grand at the building of the restaurant I own and they said that it said they automatically assess it every six years. That's what they said. That it said they automatically assess it every six years. That's what they said.

Speaker 3:

So so you think about this. I want the citizens to really think about this. They do the info at a time when people can't afford their jobs. They can't afford groceries. You spend $7 at the grocery store and you leave a pinky of groceries, carrying a bag of groceries with your pinky. So they do it in the middle of an inflation. It's because people eat levies that go on the ballots. People vote these in and not pay attention to anything that they're voting. Levies are supposed to be a return investment for persons, and none of the return investment no yeah that's true.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if these lives voted down, what does it do it? If the government's possible, maybe we're the key to those levies being packed. It's not voting in these, that don't bet us. It's powering people, or strength, and more powerful than the people in office. Citizens don't understand that. They vote every single year by recognition. They don't. It doesn't matter. I've been getting a backlash about you, about you have to stick to the party. You have to be loyal to the party. The party neither party, mr Tucker, is built to the citizens. Neither party. Well, I've never been. I've never.

Speaker 2:

I've never agreed with vote with party. I mean you should always vote on what's best for you. I mean there's people, there's people that'll say vote for your job, you know which I mean I guess makes some sort of sense, like that's a union argument, Like vote for your job, that's their whole thing and I agree with that. But I don't think that the Democratic Party I don't believe is the Democratic Party is going to give us what we need. As far as just voting for them means voting for the job, I don't believe that that's 100 percent the case. You know what I'm saying. When you vote for the Democratic Party because it is going to affect your job properly, I can agree with that, but not just because it's the union said to, or whatever it is. I agree with that 100%. You always vote based on what's best for you and your family. I mean that's the way everybody should vote. I mean why would you do anything else?

Speaker 3:

You know no, and I agree with you. The party, no matter what party you vote in, it's none of them are going to do it for you If we, as citizens, allow stuff to keep happening and we do not hold elected officials accountable, for instance, the stuff that's happening with Mr Tomlinson. Right, mr Tomlinson was my attorney. He helped get him elected. He was actually my attorney for anybody I was in trouble and he was my attorney. But it does mean, no matter what he does, it does mean you get a pass for a bad thing to do. And it's not just Mr Tomlinson. You've got Mr Hadley, you've got the Avon Mayor, you've got the chameleon there. You have the law director of the county sending emails to the IRS oversight and avoid the citizens seeing what's coming and what amount of money they're going to have to pay. We're tired.

Speaker 1:

The citizens should be tired of keeping the bags for these patients. At what point do they wake up? And?

Speaker 3:

say I have a family to protect. You know, the citizens cast votes in county like it's a valet line for a candidate. They don't pay attention to the candidate that they support. They don't they just I don't.

Speaker 2:

I've never been able to understand it, but your vote should always, always be a check move, but is but with the jd thing that's going on, I mean that's not like, that's not. I mean political. Yeah, I think that's like that girl's disingenuine a little bit, isn't she, or no, am I, am I?

Speaker 3:

wrong to think that. So tell you that the relationship was toxic. The relationship was one million percent sick. Mr thomason took an oath to protect victims. And I'm not bashing mr thomason right now. I'm not that, not all am I bashing him. I'm just saying he took an oath to protect victims.

Speaker 2:

I get that, but I don't know that. How many hours of recordings does she have on him? Over a thousand come on, that's a full time job. You walk away from a relationship that's a full time job for six months, and who's to say she's? Not lighting a firecracker, throwing it in the room and then hitting record. That's disingenuine in my opinion.

Speaker 3:

But here's the thing Just yesterday there's three more girls coming forward.

Speaker 2:

Three more girls. I haven't heard this.

Speaker 3:

I have never heard of this I will send links for all of it. There are three more girls that I'm being told coming forward, and one of those promise and a record expungement in exchange for they're lawyered up.

Speaker 2:

I don't know who all their lawyers are, I don't even know, but this girl though, this girl, this girl we're talking about Jen, and Jen sued the prosecutor's office for saying that they were discriminating her because she's Puerto Rican.

Speaker 3:

In Lorain County. Really, she didn't sue. She didn't sue JD Tomlinson, she sued the king. That's what I said.

Speaker 2:

She sued the prosecutor's office for saying that she discriminated him for being Puerto Rican, her For being Puerto Rican.

Speaker 3:

I mean, that's a little bit much, don't you think?

Speaker 2:

I mean Lorain County. Nobody's like prejudiced against Puerto Ricans. That's most of Lorain County. I mean, that's just what the city is.

Speaker 3:

If you were prejudiced against Puerto Ricans move out of Lorain move out of Lorraine. That is the most accurate statement, Absolutely. You are correct To me.

Speaker 2:

when I see that, when I see that and I'm not trying to defend JD I mean I don't really know.

Speaker 2:

I mean I know JD to some degree and I don't really know Jen, but I do know Jen to some degree. But what I do know is that she sued them and got a settlement which was to me I thought was frivolous and bullshit. But they settled whatever. They gave her money and then I see her record a thousand hours. I mean that's a little fucking ridiculous. That's a six months of working. A full time job is a thousand hours, six months. And you recorded that and you're telling me that she's not just like starting shit and causing problems and then hitting record that just I just don't believe that because I I would bet you money that if he was recording it would just look like she was the asshole when the only way I can understand it and I can see stuff I've never heard a hispanic comment.

Speaker 3:

I think a lot of the citizens aren't really seeing, um, seeing everything that's going on, because when we offer answers we're not getting them. We're told it's not business. A hundred dollar payout is my business, it's your business.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I agree with that, but that had nothing to do with JD. That's the prosecutor's office and their attorney making it go away, basically, and that may have been the best decision because maybe they would have only cost her, you know, maybe she would have won and maybe she would have got more, or maybe she would have lost and it would have just cost as much to get her there, get through this, the trial. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Why? Why the county has insurance. The payout has been used through the insurance. The payout was purposely avoid citizen oversight and IRS tax oversight, purposely avoid citizen oversight and tax oversight. The emails, the emails of all of them. All of them shows the pattern of behavior and mapping. You got janet's wife who took a. I think it was like 18 000 payout.

Speaker 3:

Judge's wife got it so you got and you don't think there's a pattern with what jen's doing I think the pattern of all of them, I think there's a pattern of every person with us right now that we should accept absolutely. I think it's a pattern all of the board of be here. That is should not acceptable, no matter whose side yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not on anybody's side.

Speaker 2:

I don't give a shit one way or the other, because it don't affect my? I mean it does, I guess, to some degree. But I mean, as far as this whole thing, I'm not even sure what the whole thing is, because I don't see any like other than yelling. I don't see any and, quite frankly, if you get in trouble for yelling to you, you're in trouble you know, I mean I agree with that, I mean that's the way I see it I mean that's the way I see it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, and that's all I see evidence of on anything. I mean there is. I did see the one video that was out a few days ago, that where they where he actually mentions that they've put their hands on each other. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

I did see that it's toxic on both ends. Right, it's toxic.

Speaker 2:

We've all been there.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I've been there, but not never with the 50 something year old woman, but did you walk away um walk away?

Speaker 2:

no, usually they're like 20 something and it's like, it's so fun like the toxic is like good and then the good is good like the bad is bad and the good is great and it's less like. Oh, my wife, we and her were pretty toxic when we first met.

Speaker 1:

I mean, honestly, when we were together, we were back and forth constantly that's a private thing and if she recorded it and she could make you look horrible and if you recorded it you could make her look horrible.

Speaker 3:

There's a difference, Mr Tucker, and a prosecutor. They happen in the prosecutor's office, whatever him and his wife is going through. That is a problem. That is the sentence. I get calls and I'm not shaking. I get calls hours of the night from citizens asking questions, asking me to help with their answers, giving me problems. I see a problem because it happened in the prosecutor's office, no matter if we see the video before it happened. We've only seen what we've seen.

Speaker 2:

We've seen what we've seen. We've seen, we've seen. No, I, I get it, but you don't know what happened before and after, or?

Speaker 3:

you don't know what you know, we'll never know.

Speaker 1:

So you're gonna, you're gonna give a recording that's gonna incriminate yourself. No, you're gonna. You're gonna send out what you want to send out. So that's one-sided.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that one-sided shit yeah, as as far as we know she could have just walked in there, slapped the fuck out of him and hit record? We don't know.

Speaker 3:

We'll never know that. We'll never know that.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

We don't even get in for a public records request when we ask questions about this situation. That is the problem. Where is the honesty and integrity coming back to the citizens from any office? It's not. It's not the JD thing, it's. It's honestly not, tony, do you not see what's going on? Tony DiMacchia, right now I need to help. He needs serious help.

Speaker 2:

No, he does, he needs it, he needs I, I and I keep hearing that he's out drinking it still and it's like, well what, you haven't give up on that yet? Like just stop drinking, Jesus, dude.

Speaker 3:

There's a video going on that I've seen of Tony DiMacchia bringing a steering wheel away from whoever was driving.

Speaker 3:

No kidding, he works for the schools Mr DiMacchia does. He is the first to see our kids when they go to school. My son is homeschooled, so let me just put that out. But our children when my son went to school we have nieces that live in the ring he's the first one to see our kids and get in their brains. They're going to see this man as this greatest hero, but he's not. He needs to remove himself from office. He is driving schools. You've seen what happened with the girls club. Yeah, All the stuff that he did. He needs to move himself from office and get help. He honestly does.

Speaker 2:

No, I agree with that, he is a downhill spiral and I haven't seen him do any good. That's the difference. Like JD has done a lot of good, like he has really done a lot of good he's done. I mean he's done a lot of good. I mean like you were out there talking with him on the steps over there and you were talking to that's. What is that, guido? That's your aunt's sister, his aunt's sister was there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's Guido's. Her sister is married to Guido's uncle, so he remembers the whole situation when it happened and it was a horrific thing and Guido just thought back then honestly because he didn't know her. He thought, well, she's probably guilty.

Speaker 1:

I mean, they did put her in prison.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no no, no, you didn't think that.

Speaker 1:

No. No, because her sister was saying how she wasn't. So no, oh really, that's not what I thought.

Speaker 3:

No, okay, I mean that's like one that's, so I can throw up.

Speaker 2:

What's that? That's a good thing.

Speaker 3:

What happened to Mrs Smith is an injustice all across the board will never ever be be. I don't think people, many even argue that point. It isn't miss. Mrs smith needs some healing because she's been through hell, been what's the other guy's name?

Speaker 3:

um, mr allen, I've never even, I've never even seen mr allen. I, I and here's my thing I don't know about a lot of this. I didn't live in Ohio. What I do know right here and now. Politicians can do a hundred good, but it does not mean that they get a pass when they do something.

Speaker 2:

But there, has to be some sort of like okay, so we're just saying that we're listening to JD. He sounds horrible, he sounds loud, he's screaming. But the problem is with that is and I've said this about myself my father, scotty Campana, you know, a good friend of mine, and the problem is is that we are emotional people. That's who we are, and I'm assuming JD sounds emotional on the phone and emotional is a good thing. I mean it's people like emotion. Emotion is a wonderful thing, but emotional people are not just happy. Emotional they're not just loving people, they can be very like angry too. I mean, angry is an emotion.

Speaker 1:

It's a passion, yeah.

Speaker 2:

When you're passionate about something, you're angry about something, that it comes out in emotion. I mean I've seen it with Scotty. You know Scotty and his family look a lot like me and my family. When we're together, I mean I yell at my kids, they yell at me. You know what I mean? We're just emotional, I mean. And then there's nothing wrong with that, I don't feel like. But if somebody recorded it it certainly wouldn't sound good, that's for sure. I know there's a lot of conversations I wouldn't have wanted recorded, I know that, and I think it's freaking shady, disingenuous. And it's somebody who's already like, sued for like to what I call. I mean, I'm not saying she's full of shit, because I don't know the circumstances, but the odds, I think, of somebody being prejudiced against a hispanic person in l Lorain County is pretty slim. I mean, I grew up here.

Speaker 3:

You said you didn't grow up here, and I've never heard that we lived in the house.

Speaker 2:

I mean my friends were all Hispanic black. I mean it's the international city. I mean it's just, the odds are so slim on that.

Speaker 3:

And I can't speak on that. I can't speak on that because I never heard that comment. You know what I mean. If I did, I would address it. I'd address it as bullshit. Honestly, I would address it. If that was the truth, I would address it as bullshit.

Speaker 2:

And I feel like it's a pattern. That's how I see it. As far as JD goes, I mean now Jack Bradley, I don't know what he's got going on there. As far as what you're saying, he's going to run the city into the ground. I don't know if he is or not. I know that they're about to get a bunch of money because they just raised everybody's property value. So I mean that's going to definitely add, but that disperses down to the city, though, doesn't it? I mean?

Speaker 3:

they get a portion of that.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't just go to the county. That has to get. The county has to divvy that up right, or am I crazy?

Speaker 1:

That makes sense.

Speaker 3:

No, so that that there's like bits and pieces that go to each city. But if you so, let me ask a question. If you look at the roads when you go and get your license plate written, do you ever see that little text that's on your license fees from the B&B? It's usually like $5 to $10. Do you ever see that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Do you know what that is?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's your road tax.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, do they fix the roads? Do the roads look like pothole cities?

Speaker 2:

I mean in the nice neighborhoods. Where do people vote?

Speaker 3:

In the nice neighborhoods. Right, the nice neighborhoods. But so where is the return If you don't?

Speaker 2:

vote. If you listen, this is my opinion of it. This is my opinion. You want them to fix the roads on your street. Get you and your neighbors to go fucking vote. I promise they'll fix your roads.

Speaker 3:

That's how I see it. I've been voting for how long, how long? And that's never worked for me. But that money has been building up for years. That license plate has been around for quite a while. Where did all of that money go?

Speaker 2:

Our should be pretty nice, if you ask me you would think I I don't disagree with you on that. I mean there there is the aspect of like, of like my parking lot, at my restaurant, I know that fucker falls apart quick, like you put it together. I mean it's a constant, constant thing, so that money is constantly recycling into the roads. So but but I do believe that they do. I think you're right. I think that if you're not, if, if your roads are bad on a street, if you see a bunch of potholes on a street, I think that's a neighborhood that doesn't vote. I think they pay attention to the roads. You go down to places where they vote, you know what I mean. And them roads are smooth, man, they're nice, it's like.

Speaker 3:

Right, but as a citizen, the citizen did you know that citizens don't pay attention to their rights in government? Did you know you could repeal that license plate test If they're not? If the government is not doing what you're asking, what do you do? You take away their bankroll, right? Sure, voting in the levies. People need to vote in these levies until we see an investment, and I tell people this all the time. We're not benefiting anything from any of the levies. I hate to say it, even for the ones for the schools. Any of the levies pay, to say it, even for the ones for the school. But the levies like, even for the, we're paying over a hundred thousand dollars for a employee like Tony. Yeah, that comes from levy money, right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's all part, and that's all part of like that goes on. Like when you say proper, like when we talk about property taxes, you say it goes to the County. That's not true. Like when I because now that you just said that, it dawned on me that when I look in my district and my property taxes go up for levies they're specific to maybe my school district or something in my city.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I mean, what about the lotto? Wasn't the lotto supposed to be for all the that?

Speaker 2:

was supposed to build the schools a lot of benefit the schools.

Speaker 3:

The lottery is supposed to be um like, so much percentage of it is supposed to um benefit the schools new marijuana thing. I believe that is to benefit the schools too. But vote me on that one, because I haven't really paid attention to that law. But, as like citizens petition drive and citizens needing to understand, it's never, it is now or never for not only our city, our county but our country. People have to be willing I say this all the time. You have to be willing to understand what's happening in this world. You have to be willing, willing only to unlearn everything that you've been taught.

Speaker 2:

You have to unlearn everything.

Speaker 3:

That sounds like some Kamala Harris shit. Are you talking about we?

Speaker 1:

can't be burdened by what has been, or whatever. What is it what?

Speaker 2:

did?

Speaker 3:

she say First off, first off. I would try to be wonder driving me around before I ever voted for her. Ever I would be wonder driving me around before I ever voted for her. I would trust a one night stand with Sheen before I voted for her.

Speaker 2:

With Charlie Sheen. That is the truth. I mean make him wear a condom. No, no, you didn't catch my drift, but anyway no but I mean, in all fairness, there's a lot of things that are broken in the system and there's and there's. I mean we can't fix it all and you're definitely not going to fix it. I mean the thing is, is I look at to me, there's different things I would do Like if I was running a show, if I'm the boss, there's things I would do Like I would tax alcohol and weed.

Speaker 3:

And that's how we pay for the police and the ambulance because that's pretty much, pretty much what's causing the need for them for the most part, you know what I mean. Agreed, we agreed, a whole heartedly I agree with that.

Speaker 1:

Now we're gonna get added taxes on it because you guys but I'm just saying like we shouldn't all pay for it.

Speaker 2:

But when you buy a, a crown, maybe you should have to pay for it. You know what I mean. That's how it. I would change a lot of things and the system of how they pay for things. Certainly I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 2:

But the problem is that those guys are so good about, like when they go through their paperwork. I mean they play within the rules. Unfortunately, if you change the rules, they change how they assess the money and send it. So I'm sure you're saying that about Bradley, but if you go and look through I bet you all the T's are crossed and all the I's are dotted. But if you change the system? I bet it is. I bet he's an attorney and he's a very good attorney, so I would bet money. What are our?

Speaker 3:

attorneys, what do you can? Yeah, to me they're high bullshitters.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm not saying you're wrong, but they also are somebody who follows a letter of the law and they play within the rules.

Speaker 3:

They they find that loophole within the rules for sure.

Speaker 2:

So that's where you run into the issue. You got to change the rules first. That's the first thing you got to do, because I would guarantee you bradley is playing by the rules regardless, because he's no dummy and he's he's one of the best attorneys in this area. Was no, he was the best criminal attorney in this area. Period. He just was hands down.

Speaker 3:

He was the best if he was the best criminal attorney in my opinion. Why did Miss Nancy Smith go through people? That was Jack Bradley's doing a lot. That was Jack.

Speaker 2:

That was a that was a worst. That was a bad prosecutor. That wasn't a bad attorney.

Speaker 3:

It was bad all across the board, but he had a fiduciary duty. He had a fiduciary duty to represent his client. I have people that come and tell me stories about Bradley representing them, about the lady with all those Conexo dogs. If you remember, a few years ago, that is insane. Jack Bradley may have been put on some things. In my personal opinion, jack is not a good defense attorney. He's not he. He did us for the money he. He made a boatload of me off of people. Jack Bradley, I would never, I wouldn't even hire him to scoop at the dog kennel.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a fan of Jack Bradley. Certainly I'm not, that's, I'm definitely not a fan of jack bradley, but I mean I seen my father as a kid because of jack bradley, because my jack, my father, got charged with murder and jack bradley got him off when I was a kid. So I mean, yeah, that, that, that to me is important because I was only like five, six years old, my father gets charged with murder and Bradley Bradley got him off on the on the case. So I mean to me, I I owe knowing my father to Jack Bradley to some degree. You know, because of I mean.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying he hits everybody, perfect, but I really believe that was bad prosecutors more than it was.

Speaker 3:

It was a bad attorney on her part and, and I believe, every single person, every person across the board, failed miss smith, mr allen, every I don't care if it's, it's from the law clerk, the clerk of courts, all the way to the chain, every one of them failed her every one of them.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely, I, I you're them. Yes, absolutely, you're not wrong. But I don't think that that weighs just on Bradley. Bradley was trying to defend her. He did his best, but when they're, it's again when you're stacking the rules against someone, you know what I mean and they're not allowing them. It's just like Kamala Harris did to the guy where she didn't want to allow the DNAna evidence at one time. If you remember they the story they're talking about and when she was a prosecutor she didn't want it. She was not going to allow the dna.

Speaker 2:

They had to actually force her they had to yeah they had to reach over her head to get the dna and evidence put in, you know. So I mean that does happen and I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I believe me, I'm not a fan of jack bradley. I'm not a fan of Jack Bradley, I'm not a fan of, first of all, I'm not a fan of the guy that defended every criminal in Lorraine running Lorraine. That just doesn't make sense to me. That just is yeah. That to me just doesn't make sense to me. That's absolutely goofball.

Speaker 3:

But I mean, that's what we've picked, but the citizens have voted them in not paying attention. It's like when you go to a store and you buy something and they ask if you want the warranty and you say, yeah, I want the warranty, who the hell reads the fine print, right? Nobody reads the fine print. Nobody pays attention. When you buy something at the store, don't look into the reviews of what you're buying. You just buy it. So the citizens are going off of name recognition and they're not paying attention to the issues that are at hand. Paying attention to when, the when the politicians get it, so they honestly going to keep their promises, or is it just that, as soon as I end, you ain't shit, no more, right well, that's, that's well, I mean, they have to get re-elected.

Speaker 1:

I mean that's.

Speaker 2:

I mean that they they, I mean they have to get re-elected. I mean that's, I mean that that they, they, I mean you have to get re-elected, so that that it's like it's like right now jd is is trying up for re-election right now.

Speaker 3:

I mean so, I mean that that's going to be hard because he's got to earn the public's trust back.

Speaker 2:

He literally is, I feel like the, but I see you're saying that they're sticking to issues now and not the name recognition. That's how you're saying it. I mean, that's the way it sounds to me that they're going by issues. But they're only going to go by issues of like a girlfriend that he fought with. That's silly.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't mean. I'm not talking about that part. I'm talking about any person coming into office, whether it's JD's opponent, whether it's Judge Walther's wife. People need to get attention and look into, ask them questions. Don't be afraid to go to these candidates' nights or one of their events. I invite Mr Mike B because he doesn't like one of the candidates running against Ed Accord, who I think Gianna Bramke is absolutely amazing. Like she is our checkmate for Lorain County. She is our return investment. He doesn't like her. So you know what I say. Mr B, come to her event with me. You ask her questions and then I'll go to the event for one of your candidates with you. Like what is wrong with getting to know the candidate?

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, everybody should do that. That's absolutely I would agree with that I mean they don't always for sure. And then I mean and especially on a local level, I mean people some times don't vote, but the ones that do wanted them in. You know what I mean. So you'll come to the poll and you won't know, so you just don't click anything, but the people who want that person and go for it, and that's right, the way it works so maybe they only get a small amount of the vote.

Speaker 2:

So what about this vermilion thing you said when you were talking about coming on? You said something about vermilion vermilion on sunny side road.

Speaker 3:

mr rezar um got it through council rezone a property to a commercial property where he wanted to put, I believe it was like 500 units, apartments over there. The citizens didn't want it Well, so we put on the. We collected enough signatures to put it on the ballot to stop the rezone of it. But we also put the city of Vermilion is a charter, the city of Lorraine is a statutory city Completely two different things. So we had to put on the ballot as well an insurance policy that says going forward, city council cannot rezone any property without it being the vote of the people. It's that simple.

Speaker 2:

But is it voted in now, or is it rezoned, or you're still trying to fight it, right?

Speaker 3:

now no, it's not, no, it's not rezoned. Oh okay, it's not and it's not done. No, no, if they would go, they they did rezone it, but then we got enough signatures for it to go on the ballot now to take the rezoning away so now, but but I mean, you don't feel bad a little bit?

Speaker 3:

no, and absolutely not, because here's why, now that mr mr rezar didn't get his rezoning, they want to move the airport over, over to where he was gonna put, um, those apartments. The airport is broke. Why are we moving in the airport?

Speaker 2:

yeah, but I mean he's got that I mean, he put a lot of money into that property, didn't he buy it? It wasn't expensive, right?

Speaker 3:

No, he owned the resource A lot of things. No, he, he. Yeah, he put money in when he bought it. But but don't you think you should have had a meeting with the citizens their city?

Speaker 2:

He doesn't even live in Vermillion I understand that, but the but they told him he could rezone it, and then he goes in. I mean I don't know anything about this at first I'm hearing about it, but when I hear about it I know that property is expensive and they told you you can zone it to do one thing. So you say, okay, you buy the property, they zone it for you, and then all of a sudden they say, nope, never mind, just kidding, like that's like.

Speaker 2:

I mean you're talking. I mean you're not talking about throwing 10 bucks at something. You know what I mean. I mean, typically in a commercial deal what you'll do is you'll go around and you'll find a property and you'll sign, like a lease purchase with them so that you can find out all the stuff, so you can basically shore up the property and then, before you make the purchase, you can go through all your zoning and all that stuff. But he did that, so at that point you know it's purchased, he's ready to roll. I mean now he's just sitting on this property. He's got a fricking. He can't do what he wants to do with it. That you don't feel bad about that a little bit.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't. If you worked very hard for everything that you have, which you have, and who's to say that somebody come in and wanted to put an 800-unit apartment right in your backyard 800 units you know how much parking that's going to take.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I have it in my backyard, yeah, but what?

Speaker 3:

Not 800 units. Okay, you don't have 800 units. I don't know how many I have, but there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a lot, but anyways like, but that's a lot of income coming from that. That uh property to that city, right yeah, that's a lot of income coming to that city a lot of citizens yeah it doesn't.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't now, if you said 800 low income units.

Speaker 2:

I would say, okay, now that's a different story, now we're talking different.

Speaker 3:

You're putting section eight in there, or something I would understand yeah, but but the residents of Vermillion like I'm not kidding you a thousand signatures, easy, easy, easy, easy Don't want that. There's a reason that they don't want it. The city of Vermillion I never go to the city of Vermillion. I honestly don't.

Speaker 1:

So why do you care yeah?

Speaker 3:

Because I work for an attorney. I work for an attorney who they hired him. When they hire him, I have a job to do when citizens come to me and say, hey, we need your help with something.

Speaker 2:

So how many people live in Vermillion? Like, what's the population of Vermillion? Do you know the answer to that? Just off the top of your head? I do not. I can look it up. Not, it's okay, we don't have to do all that. I'm just curious. I mean, I'm just wondering, like, because I'm just saying like, I mean, if the population is, I mean what is it? Maybe say it's 10 000, so 10 didn't want it, right, 10?

Speaker 3:

it's 10 000 as of as of 2022.

Speaker 2:

It's 10 994 okay, so I had a good guess. Yeah, so you were close.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you, you were very close. It doesn't matter when the citizens come forward and they don't want something. It is their right first, because it's their city. It would be like you going into vermilion right putting in one of your on the waterfront. I think it would be like you going into Vermillion right Putting in one of your boats on the waterfront. I think it would be beautiful. But if the citizens come together and they don't want it, it's their right because it's their home.

Speaker 2:

I mean to some degree but he already was approved and he put the money out. That's where I get aggravated on it I guess and I don't know Rezer at all I know he has a lot of money, I know that I know he sold the one company for like 30-some million, so he has a lot of money. I mean I'm sure it didn't hurt him, but I mean it's still money's money man you put out that money, you know?

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's just the way I see it and I don't know anything about this story. I've never heard it.

Speaker 3:

He does everything. He does from civil rights to election law, to business, to. He is a forensic accountant. He goes in and he does a forensic audit on cities. Very smart man. He's 70 years old, he is, he is, but you know why. But you know why, mr Tucker.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I know why.

Speaker 3:

People either love him or hate him for the same exact reason. Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure. Well, save some for our next episode. I mean, I appreciate everything that you had to say. I like it. I like having you on here. This was great. I want to make sure we get the choppiness out. It got better towards the end, so that's good and we really loved having you on. That was awesome. I like hearing your take on it. The thing with me and Guido is we don't pay attention enough to this politics going on.

Speaker 3:

So I like that you bring up stuff that you put in hard work and we just kind of give you our dumb common sense answer back to you and this is just like what we hear to me, even if, yeah, it doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on or what you believe in your comments, your comments are still important to me, they still matter.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't care one way or the other. I mean I except for. I mean what ray, carry on, you can't talk bad about rick and that's not allowed to happen. You can't. It can't. Um, jd has to be talked about and I know you love jd. You just are trying to hold him accountable and I get that. Um, I think that maybe you're a little out on that one. I think that I think that he's being set up. I mean, a thousand hours clearly says he was set up in my, it's really two thousand right, right, it's probably yeah, two thousand hours and then you

Speaker 1:

edit it what you don't want out there. So right. So at the end of the day, at the end of the day it's 2,000 hours, and then you edit it.

Speaker 3:

What you don't want out there, right? So at the end of the day, it's all going to come out in the wash. Isn't that the truth? That is?

Speaker 2:

absolutely true, but we loved having you on. It was awesome. We're going to have you back on. I want to try to make this a steady episode where we get you to bring in maybe then some of the next episodes. We want to try and cut it so we get to one topic 15 minutes or something. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

I know we're all over the place. Well, it's the first time You're excited.

Speaker 2:

I get it. You know what I mean and I'm excited to have it on here and I think it was a good topic. And then with JD and everything coming on with the elections and I believe JD and talk with us about it and kind of I don't know what he's allowed to say or not allowed to say. I don't know if that's. Is there a suit against that or no? Did she file?

Speaker 3:

anything, or did she just?

Speaker 2:

put it out there.

Speaker 3:

They signed JD made her sign an NDA because we can't get answers. So if you can get answers out of him for the public, listen, more power to you. But I don't think he's going to budge, okay, well, more power to you, but I don't think he's going to budge.

Speaker 2:

I think he's going to come on and talk to us and we're going to find out.

Speaker 1:

If it ain't about the one, I will.

Speaker 3:

He has a right and I hope that's the truth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hope everything. I think she's being set up and I hope that's the case, but we loved having you on and we'll talk to you, hopefully next week or maybe. I don't know if we're going to do it weekly or two weeks. I think we might do it two weeks from a cause Guido thinks once a week is maybe more serious than we like to get.

Speaker 3:

Well as it gets closer to the election. In my opinion, no matter who you have on, you need to bring issues forward and talk about it, and I know a lot of citizens don't pay attention to what's going on in the government, but I think it's time that we all start paying attention fair enough I like that idea.

Speaker 2:

I like that idea we need some bigger ones too, some senators and congressmen.

Speaker 3:

Let's do it, let's make that talk the spot.

Speaker 2:

I'll hook you up hey, wait a minute real quick, though, before you get off. I heard you were messing with Mike. That's not true. Is it Mike Bollock? Who, mike, the one that did the cameras for the NFL?

Speaker 3:

The camera system. Mr Bocca I have known for over 20 years 20 years. He is very passionate about what he does, and so am I, but he's also stubborn as hell and he does not listen to any other side but his. I argued with him for like 20 minutes and I said, mr b, somebody needs to give you a sleeping pill, because you really need to take your ass to bed no, come on now.

Speaker 2:

You better leave mike alone. He's one of our favorites. He's up there with. He's up there. He. Mike is up there with with Ray Carion. He's off limits. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

But me and Mr B. That's how we have always spoke to each other, Always Like we have a very strong mutual respect. I can argue with him and he can argue with me, but at the end of the day we still have one thing and we're going to meet in the middle. It's always been that way.

Speaker 2:

Did you see? Have you seen the Trump in his office to cut out in his office? Have you been to his office?

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

You see that stand up Trump that he has there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I gave that to him. Listen, I drive. I drove by his house and got out just to put my feet, my bare feet, in his expensive ass grass, like I do, like that's just how me and Mr B are, and he'll tell you that. That's a little creepy, tia. You know he has 17 shitters in his house, I believe.

Speaker 2:

I built his house. I know what's in there. I built it. I worked with Star Builders at the time for one person yeah, yes, it is yes it is who says at least you don't have to clean, but once a month right, all right, but it was nice talking with you. We loved having you on. We got some other dumb shit to talk about dirty strippers and stuff. Have fun, alright, thanks, bye-bye.

Speaker 3:

Talk to you soon. Bye.

Speaker 2:

She is something else. Man Get her all fired up. She was getting all fired up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I really didn't have a chance to say anything. Just let her go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you kind of have to. I wish that we could. I wish that we wouldn't have had the like choppiness at the beginning because she was bringing it up about bradley and stuff towards the end it got way better and I'm part of.

Speaker 2:

That was uh, what's his name? Our, our buddy that that I work with. That showed me how to do all the tech stuff. You know what I mean? I I know that he had showed me settings and before for the mics and stuff like that that adjust that. So I went in there and started messing with that and it started I think it started clearing it up. So I actually think I solved something actually while that was going on. It might be something, I think, because she's.

Speaker 2:

I think because she's like. I think because she's like, I think because she comes so hard at you you know what I mean. Like she gets, she gets, she talks real, like, like loud she doesn't. You know what I mean. Like she's, she's passionate, she's a passionate, passionate woman.

Speaker 1:

But look it now. You, with that being said right there, what you just said about her being so passionate you think her and her husband don't have like serious arguments where. She said they do Well, that's what I'm saying, that's in a relationship he gets on my damn nerve.

Speaker 2:

That's what she said.

Speaker 1:

I know courthouse steps, so what I'm saying is that's the same thing with JD.

Speaker 2:

He was passionate about his conversation and then got a little heated and got I get that though, what it's like when you're 22, at 50, when you're in your fifties. Well, well, I know she's in her 50s. I don't know how old JD is, I think he's in his late 40s. Yeah, when you're at that age, that shit's got to come to an end, you've got to stop. If somebody makes you feel like that, you just walk out. You just walk out. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That's how I feel about it. Yeah, but if you're cornered, just like you just said, when you and Amanda now you know I'm saying and if she recorded it on her end of it and didn't give out, your part of it.

Speaker 2:

There was a jet ski incident like two weeks ago or three weeks ago that like, oh yeah, amanda was gonna divorce me in the middle of putting a jet ski on a trailer so that's what I'm saying, and there, was this lady that I wanted to just fucking yell at I was.

Speaker 2:

I was so angry I'm already pissed off you don't even know her, but she, you was going to scream at her that way. Well, this is what happened. So we buy the jet ski. You can take T off there now. We take the jet ski and we had it all winter worked on. Okay, I put it in the water, off the trailer. It doesn't start. They didn't put it on a trickle charger. They had it all winter. When you have it on in the winter, you either take the battery out or you put it on a trickle charger. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

One of the two, Just like a bike. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, just like a bike same thing. So I take it and I put it in the water. It doesn't start. I put the jumper on and it's not working. Somebody loans me a job, it's not working. So now I got to put it back on the trailer. You know what I mean. And I'm trying to get Amanda to cause I'm on it with no power, I can't move it. She's got at, she's on a truck and I'm trying to have her crank me back onto the trailer so she could pull up. You know, but you got to lock the strap on so there's like a metal thing you got to click. You know on how a crank works. You know what I'm saying. And I'm I'm all I want her to do is like hit the crank and I'm like I'm telling her it's like it's right there on the back, because to me it's behind it. So she looks on the back and I'm like fuck, and I'm aggravated with myself and her at the same time.

Speaker 2:

The jet ski, everything else the jet ski, I'm pissed off and I'm being nasty. I am. I'm like are you kidding me? I'm like, I'm being nasty, like I'm being really nasty. And then some dumbass behind us on the other side of the river like goes, I'd leave his ass in the fucking water.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

If somebody recorded that, oh you, at that moment it would have made you look horrible right. According to that woman, I must have looked horrible, right so I'm. But I'm thinking did you see her fucking not going where I'm telling her to right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, so when you're, when you're arguing with somebody and somebody records one part of it like they ain't, like you know they ain't gonna record.

Speaker 2:

Well, even that, though, it's like there's a, there's a whole context to it, right?

Speaker 3:

like I'm pissed at the jet ski, I'm pissed at the battery.

Speaker 2:

I'm pissed at the and there's a much, there's so much going on and all we wanted to do was put it in the water. You know what I'm saying? Like it was a whole big thing and I mean I had just put out, dude, I think. I think I paid like almost four grand this this summer or this winter to have everything done on that thing, like because it needed a new betzel, it needed a new screen, it needed a new seat, like when we had it all redone. So you spend all that money, you expect that they freaking took care of the battery while it was in there. You know what I'm saying. Like you don't even think about that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

And and uh, it actually is my fault. I should have fired it up on the on the land before I put it in there, but I just assumed that it was. I mean he told me everything was working good when I brought it, picked it up. You know what I mean. So I mean it was my fault to some degree. But yeah, she was ready to divorce me over that one. That's the only thing that we've argued about. But like we weren't in an argument where I was saying things to the effect of you're manipulating me or you know what I'm saying, like there's something going on.

Speaker 2:

She's definitely manipulating them if she's recording this shit, right that's kind of proof of what he's saying fuck yeah, she lit the firecracker and then turned on the phone and fuck that that's that's.

Speaker 1:

That's why I said it's so out of context. I think yeah I might be wrong, who knows?

Speaker 2:

but she's like you got a really tiny dick, record record no, so yeah, you don't know what led to that.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy, like you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you have no idea. You have no idea, but you shouldn't, at that age, be allowing that to go on anymore. That type of stuff, as far as like yeah, you're gonna argue and like the jet ski incident, yeah shit, like that'll go on, but me and amanda aren't at home like just screaming at each other about this, and that I mean we did at when we at when we were young.

Speaker 2:

when we were young you know what I'm saying we did. We were pretty toxic when we first got together. I mean, it was back and forth all the time. But I mean I feel like once you get older, you like like now, like if that argument starts, dude, I promise, I'm just walking, I'm just all right, see you later. That's just how I am and I think that's everybody should be that way. You know, when you get older, I think you mature enough where it's like yeah, this is silly.

Speaker 2:

It just happened when but it was a different incident. That's like we were arguing for like three minutes about a jet ski, putting it, I mean every time I docked the boat. Divorce is on the table. I mean it could. I mean I'm not bullshitting.

Speaker 1:

Every time I go to dock the boat, it's like but at your age. That's what you're saying, though, but we're not talking about.

Speaker 2:

We're not talking about. We're not talking about fucking. You know, you're fucking that one or no, or? You know you're manipulating me and it's it's.

Speaker 2:

It's like fucking it's the it's. It's like it's the docking the boat. It's like where it's the it's. It's like it's the docking the boat. It's like where it's like. It's like don't fucking grab the dock. Yet you know, I mean, because that's the biggest thing she gets nervous. She wants to grab it right away and pull us in and then it throws the bow out or something you know. So I mean it's shit like that. That goes on and it and it. I'm not that good at docking a boat. If I'm being honest, I'm really not. I mean it's the shit I say while I'm docking would not be good on tape. But that's what I'm saying. But it's not. It's not like directed towards her, like it's not like that, like it's not. It's not arguing like we don't argue like that. No more dude. It's just not the case. I I'm not that person, I'm not gonna. I mean she makes smart ass comments to me or something. I'm just like I'll snip back maybe, but that's it. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's not like I'm not doing that whole shouting and like you know, it's just not happening yeah, that's just not gonna happen, and I don't think why I mean camera so far off what do you mean? It's so far, it's exactly the same. What are you talking about? You're making up shit. If you would sit in the middle, you'd be all right. I'm sitting in the middle. You don would sit in the middle, you'd be all right, I'm sitting in the middle. You don't sit in the middle, you go to the side. You just recognize that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's horrible, but I'm just saying, when you record it like that, that's horrible.

Speaker 2:

No, that's her. Yeah, that's shady as fuck and, like we said, you know she's. I'm not saying she did for sure. We don't know what she's doing, but I mean I think she's lighting a fuse before she hits record. I would be my guess.

Speaker 1:

And if you feel, if you feel that the relationship or the friendship or the employment or something is that you know where you got to record a thousand hours of it, you just walk away at that point, don't you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, it was never about employment. I don't think employment was ever an issue. I think it was mostly about work, I think, or about the relationship. I don't think it was about work.

Speaker 1:

What I'm saying is, whether it's the relationship, the work you know, environment or whatever, you walk away at that point You're like see ya.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't disagree with you.

Speaker 1:

You don't record a thousand hours of it, so you're putting yourself through thousands of hours of it.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying it's that it's pretty disingenuine dude, that's like it. I mean I, I mean if somebody was, I mean how can you care about somebody and record them like that?

Speaker 1:

you can't, you can't, you don't care about them you're. You're trying to see what you can get out of it, or whatever, yeah because you just walk away at that point, or you you let them know that this is going to be the last time you're going to deal with that kind of shit, and then you're going to move on from that if it continues.

Speaker 2:

And I don't know how long they were, like dating or whatever. But to get a thousand hours like that means like I'm pretty sure she was recording on the first date, right?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I mean I got damn a thousand hours, right, and what I'm saying is you think it's 1,000 hours?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm not saying that. That's what was turned over, though.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no no, I'm saying do you think out of what was recorded was 1,000 hours?

Speaker 2:

Maybe she probably didn't hit record until she fired it, stirred it up.

Speaker 1:

No no.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying it was shady of her and you know, and most people would, yeah, everybody would. But whatever, back to strippers and and uh back to a lighter side of things yeah, let's get back to strippers and dumb, dumb people and dumb shit that we do. What else when I ain't good stories from work? I haven't heard a good story from work lately no no, none, it's just chill, like you're just at work and nothing's ever happening, nothing well, you know, I'm kind of like different does this new company deliver to jose?

Speaker 2:

to jose, who the one that puts a shoot halfway, or whatever?

Speaker 3:

Halfway.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you said he like doesn't put the shoot where he should or something, and then he Hector.

Speaker 1:

You're talking Hector, hector, that's what it was. Hector. Yeah, we delivered. Hector too.

Speaker 2:

You do Wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was. It was funny because when I left, the one company went to the other company. We delivered to the exact same people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but somebody told me you got the outside, that electrician that comes in, andy, he said that you guys had the outside work and they have the inside work.

Speaker 1:

See, everybody says stuff but it's not true, because I did the last day, which was what, friday? I was inside the building.

Speaker 2:

So he's a liar no he's not a liar. You know what else he told me? He said you cannot find equipment to rent anywhere. Everybody's got all their equipment running out.

Speaker 3:

That's what he?

Speaker 2:

just told me and I go. That's good because Marsh Heavy Equipment.

Speaker 1:

Marsh Heavy Equipment will be right here on TV4.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're setting up for brick and mortar right there in front of your office, where you guys are at.

Speaker 1:

They're Mac, right Mac, which used to be the old consumer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the old fence company that's in front. He's got a deal worked out and he's trying to do the brick and mortar over there. Brick and mortar, what do you mean? Brick and mortar is like you know, like you're not just on the internet, you've got a store. It might not even be brick, it might be just metal or whatever, but it's called brick and mortar. That's what they call it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Well, the reason why I asked we got blocked there at Mac and stuff. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, because they do that whole barricade stuff right.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I don't know, they got consumers still there where Mac's on the back side. Oh, really so it's still consumer yeah so, but I don't understand.

Speaker 2:

So there's two concrete companies there.

Speaker 1:

Consumer does something different now see, uh, mac bought the concrete end of it, so they're in the back side where we get the concrete. Consumer owns the front where they still sell the block, the moiter, the, the other stuff. They still sell the supplies right right, right right right.

Speaker 2:

So they're still there. Okay, alright, that's. I didn't know that they did that, that they sold all that stuff, yeah so they just basically sold the concrete end of it.

Speaker 1:

That's all, huh.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why you'd give up one and not the other. That's weird. Do you make more on the retail or something? Maybe?

Speaker 1:

well, I think it's his daughter that owns it and she enjoys that part of the business and she didn't enjoy the other part, or something like that. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's that's what it works so yeah, I mean, yeah, it works, I guess it works, it works, it works. Yeah so yeah, that's pretty cool, though he's going to be opening up there soon. They said that they'd have it ready by the first of the month, but I I was looking, I drove by, I go I don't know how the hell I drive every day and I'm like I don't see it either.

Speaker 2:

But hey, I've been wrong before I think yeah, we have to see what all we're gonna get going on over there. That'd be cool, though, to get some marsh heavy equipment going and he's saying that they just you cannot find equipment right now, so that's that's. He's in the right market then, if that's the case, because ford's got everything in.

Speaker 1:

There is rented everything in there is all right. Yeah, who's got who?

Speaker 3:

who runs most of it out.

Speaker 2:

Tough man or a tough man. Tough man that's who most of it's coming from yeah, you see their buggies all over.

Speaker 1:

You see all kinds of equipment there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that tough man is like that. I they had the best prices when I did stuff with them. They definitely did. But I mean, they aren't going to give you the service that you're going to get from Marsh Heavy Equipment. Marsh Heavy Equipment he'll deliver it. Sit down, talk with you, hang out, make sure you got the right product, maybe take you to strip club. No, I don't know about that. I can't back that up. I'm not going to connect those two. Yeah, stri that up. Not gonna connect those two. Um, yeah, strippers are downhill. I think I think they're. I think they're both. I think they're back to uh, that's. I think they're like just making more money like on the internet than they are going to a strip club.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I don't go to them either way.

Speaker 2:

I don't know yeah, yeah, I don't go to internet or the strip club, but I mean, well, I don't go to only fans and pay for subscriptions and all that shit. I mean, everybody goes on the internet, I think. I hope. I think that's what happens. I'm not sure, though, 100%.

Speaker 1:

So what do you think You're going to get JD on here?

Speaker 2:

JD said he would come on. I asked him. I told him that we were going to try and address some political stuff more. As the election's coming up, we want to try and get some people on that are going to be running, and especially some of our favorite candidates, and he definitely is. I mean that dude's just he's done a lot since he's been there, so that would be cool to have him on. I just don't know if he will after we're putting her on and she's talking bad. No, she likes him. I mean, even in that one interview she's like. You know, I'm a fan of his. I just want to hold him.

Speaker 1:

You know, I don't know, but and you got to realize she's looking at it a woman's perspective too.

Speaker 2:

She just gets so hyper. That's the thing. She gets really really, really hyper about stuff. I mean she gets worked up, but I mean she's reasonable, I think once you talk to her. Usually seems like it to me. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I mean she just, she's just trying to and she's right. I mean, at these politicians, man, it's just. It's like did you see what they did with Kamala Harris, with the because? Remember, I said and I said it before Kamala did I said Trump was going to do no tax on tips. I go, that's almost a guaranteed win. Now I mean you got all the servers and stuff, are going to vote for you. You know what I mean? That's, that's, it's a home run. When he said that, then all of a sudden, she says the same thing yeah, but did you see like the responses? Dude, it's hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Cnn is like when, when Trump said it, he's going to bankrupt the country, he's going to take $25 billion from of revenue from the U S government and this and that. And then Kamala does it Kamala's new expansion on helping the lower class by taking away taxes on tips. It's like the same, fucking same, exact thing. How can you spin it that differently? Like how, and you got this. How can you do it with a straight face? How can you one moment say that?

Speaker 1:

But that's a good thing If somebody got a better idea than you and you go with it. Hey, fuck it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying it's not. I'm talking about the media spin on things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, no, I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying either way, I mean they can spin anything, dude, they can spin anything Like the ugly strippers right.

Speaker 2:

So we're like no, seriously. Back to the ugly strippers. So okay, you got ugly strippers right, ugly strippers. So okay, you got ugly strippers right and you spin it. So I look at it, I go oh, they're probably making more money on the internet, right? But CNN puts a story out that it's an equal opportunity employer.

Speaker 2:

now you go in there and there'll be handicapped girls in wheelchairs shaking hey, you got to sit on my lap for this lap dance, oh well, but that's the way they spin shit. It's ridiculous. I mean I'm not I've always said I'm not like 100% a Trumper. I really am not that much. I mean I think that, honestly, I'm becoming more of a Trumper. I really am not that much. I mean. I think that honestly, I'm becoming more of a Trumper as time goes on.

Speaker 2:

I believe that the more I watch Trump, the more I think that Trump is honestly giving you the uh, uh. I think that they're honestly, he's honestly giving you true, from the cuff, like his honest opinion. It's never like scripted. I mean I'm sure he has some talking points, but he kind of is like just giving it because he's being honest with you, he knows what he's talking about, you know what I'm saying and I really believe that wholeheartedly now. I don't know that I felt that way the first time around, but I kind of feel that way now about him. So I'm really becoming a Trumper, like a true Trumper, like I really believe like Trump's the best answer right now.

Speaker 2:

I used to think he was the better option, but I wasn't like sold on him because I don't like the way he. I really don't didn't like the way he would say stupid things to people and get things all worked up. You know what I'm saying? It would just, it just stressed me out. It says talk about the strip club trip. We talked about the strip club trip early on in the show we were talking about it already that's uh rival records.

Speaker 2:

It says on there but yeah, the uh the the thing with trump when he was doing when he's talking, like you know, it's not scripted, he can do an interview with anyone and he can be as honest as in for it. But what I feel like he doesn't do enough of is like defend himself enough. He just like kind of goes okay, I'm not dealing with your stupid shit, you to people, when he should defend himself in some degree. But if he did, he'd have to defend himself 24-7 because of the way they spin things.

Speaker 1:

The only thing I'm just looking forward to the debates.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's yeah, that's going to be great. You know what we should do. We should take. That's what we should do next week. So we'll take seven topics, ok, and we get to. We take the seven topics whatever they are. We'll pick them out of the news and you'll put what we'll pick. We'll spin them negative and positive and see how we can make each one negative and positive. We'll pick them out of the news and we'll make them negative and positive.

Speaker 1:

You see what I'm saying like two lists of the same thing and just make it negative. Yeah, and we'll make it. Well, you can spin it any way you want.

Speaker 2:

We'll see how good we are at spinning things is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

You want to make it for Trump and I'll make it against.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's fine. All you got to do is call your Uncle Fernando. He'll go crazy, he'll give you all the right moves on it, that's fine, he'll do it.

Speaker 2:

No, honestly, yeah, we should do that. I'll pick out, I'll try and do it early, so we got all week to try and work it out. You know what I mean. And we'll do. We'll do five. We'll pick five things and we'll try and spin them and they'll be about Kamala Harris or Trump, but we'll try and see who we get it to go. But it's got to be factual.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's the thing with spin. It's not like, it's not fact. Like when CNN says Trump's going to cost the government $25 billion. Yeah, you're going to lose $25 billion in tax revenues. Although those are people who get tips every day, they're going to spend all that money. You're going to gain tax revenue at the end of the day, but the truth of the matter is, at the grand scheme of things, when you take that tax away, yes, you lost $25 billion in taxes that are taxed to. You know what I mean? To the, to them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but that she's doing the same thing, so it's a benefit is bigger, though. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

The benefit is bigger in the end. But that's not how they spun it. You know what I'm saying. It's just it's how you spin it. Usually, when you spin it, you're telling the truth to some degree. There's no lie to it. You're just spinning it to, you know. I mean, yeah, it's got to be factual benefit yeah yeah, it's just like, like I said with strippers, like like I mean, if we're talking, strippers we go ugly strippers.

Speaker 2:

I think it's because they're on the internet. You know what, what I mean? Or somebody else spends it and goes. You know they'll hire you know anybody? Today it's an equal opportunity, employment place, you know what I'm saying I don't know, how do you you know, speaking of strippers how do they still get away with hiring these places like Tilted Kilt and stuff like that in this day and age? Doesn't that blow your mind?

Speaker 1:

What do you mean Like pretty girls and waitresses? I don't see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're basically strippers. Like I mean you're hiring based on looks and like I mean I don't know, I don't see how that's like I don't see how they pull that off nowadays. It seems like political, it seems it seems politically incorrect. I'm not saying I'm complaining, I'm just saying it seems politically incorrect.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's like Hooters and everything else.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. How do they still do that? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's a lot of them that ain't. There's a lot of them. Places closed down.

Speaker 2:

They have yeah, a lot of them have. The one in Cleveland Tilted, kilt in Cleveland closed down, but they're still out there though yeah and then there's another one. We went to another one too, I forget, like in myrtle beach it's. It's owned by the same company.

Speaker 2:

I forget what it's called, though, but it's the same shit, same thing I went to one in louisiana yeah, I can't remember what the name of it was, but yeah, I mean, I just don't know how they get away with it now, like it's a different time, day, age, whatever. You know what I mean. You wouldn't think they'd get away with it, I don't know, I mean, you're basically like I guess I could see them getting away with it, but I'm shocked we're not showing up to like fucking 280-pound girls in a tilted kilt. There's probably some out there, you think, so I've never seen it. They're always like tight, hard bodies.

Speaker 1:

Well, you remember the one clip that's always out about that girl at Hooters with the flat ass. Well, you remember the one clip that's always out about that girl at Hooters with the flat ass. You never seen that, yeah, you have seen it?

Speaker 2:

No, I haven't. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

Remember we yeah, you've seen it.

Speaker 2:

I've seen it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you've seen it. Aj put it out?

Speaker 2:

AJ put it out. See, AJ blocked me, though why, what did he or what happened? He took me off his Facebook trying to remember what happened. My wife's still on it. She shows me his shit sometime.

Speaker 1:

I gotta look and see if he blocked me he took me off of there at one time.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember what it was for, though I don't remember he was mad at me for it Dick's Last Resort. No, that's not what it is. That's not the same I'm talking about, amanda said, dick's Last Resort. No, I'm talking about the one that's like the Tilted Kilt, that's owned by the same company. That's the one I'm talking about, not Dick's Last Resort.

Speaker 1:

But anyways, no, anyways. Aj had a clip of a girl at the counter with a flat ass and he said something about Hannah being on there. Oh, really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you don't remember that it was a long time ago. No, I don't remember. No, I don't remember. But it's Hooters, though. I mean they can have flat asses as long as they have big boobs right, I mean, isn't that?

Speaker 2:

the point. It's about Hooters, not asses. It's not like it's called badonkadonks, I don't know. But anyways, I mean I'm just saying I don't know. But yeah, I mean those girls that were at Tilted Kilt when it closed like I was there like a week before it closed those girls were, I mean, a lot better than the girls that looked at Christie's. I'll tell you that much I mean a lot better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that has no thing for me. I don't go there, so I don't care.

Speaker 2:

Nah, it wasn't my thing either, but I was with a friend. That's what he wanted to do. He was on one and he gets one on one next thing. You know he wants to go to a strip club. Not really my thing, but it is what it is, but it was still fun. The first night was real fun. The first time we went with them, tuesday or whatever that was real fun. But then the second time and and you know what part of it is like I really don't even like I.

Speaker 2:

I actually think I prefer like the small little strip clubs. They're like I, I like that better. I mean I I'm not there to look at like see if I can see the hottest chick there. My wife naked is hot. That's good to me and I'm happy with that. But I like watching girls be dumb, dirty, sluts and stuff. I like watching that and that's funny to me, like when they get on stage and like dance and move and stuff. I like that. That stuff I like that's just how it is. So I don't think it like christy's, like it doesn't matter if they were hotter or not. I mean christy was definitely hotter than the local club, but they weren't by small percentages, dude it wasn't, it wasn't like it wasn't like fucking 300 degree, I mean.

Speaker 2:

It mean it was just a small percentage better. Honestly, it really was. I mean for the trip and everything that you spend and all that. And then I got ripped off there too. Did I tell you about that? I didn't tell you about that, did I? So we're sitting there. I got to use the bathroom. I'm sitting with Amanda, we're on the couches and we're in the VIP area and I'm sitting on the couch. I got to pee. So I get up, I go to the bathroom, I come back and Amanda and Brooke are on the couch I was on and there's strippers taking up the whole couch. They're all on the couch over there. So I go and sit next to my brother. He's got a stripper sitting next to him and I'm sitting there just by myself. You know what I mean? Just drinking, drinking.

Speaker 2:

All of a sudden, this girl comes and pops up on me not my type, heavier girl, like not. She just jumps on my lap. You know what I mean and she's talking to me. Talking to me, she's from illyria, this, and that she's talking to me and tell her yeah, you know I own madhouse, blah, blah, blah, this, and that we're having these conversations, I'm trying to think how do I get her off of me? I don't want to be rude, I don't want to be nasty, you know what I mean, but she's got to get off me. I can't have her on me. So I come up with a bright idea. It's Jose's birthday. I go let me get Jose a lap dance. And she's like oh, you want to get them a lap dance, right, me and Amanda sneak out, go smoke on the patio, which is really nice. Have you ever been on a patio out there or seen it? Oh, you've never been there, right.

Speaker 1:

Christine, yeah, I've been there years ago with Jim Fields.

Speaker 2:

Dude, the patio is phenomenal. Like why that patio isn't the biggest thing in Cleveland. That patio is awesome. It's right on the river, it's beautiful. I mean it's nice, nice, like I was like holy shit, this is really nice. Nobody out there, you know.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, we smoke a cigarette, we're, we're. We come back in and a girl goes that's 80 bucks and I'm like 80 dollars for a fucking lap dance, jesus and payer. Actually amanda had all the money. So I'm like amanda paid. So then my brother buys brook a lap dance, right. So I'm like, okay, I go, hey, how much do you pay for that lap dance? He goes 30 bucks, I go 30 bucks. I go, oh, hell, no.

Speaker 2:

And I and I told amanda, and amanda starts losing her mind. She's telling all the strippers like she charged us 80, blah, blah. Then amanda wants to throw a fit. I'm like, ah, don't, don't do that, don't, don't, freaking, don't make a fuss about it, just don't fucking let her over here no more. You know what I mean, because she's already said she's an Illyrian. I told her I'm mad. If I didn't tell her that fucking two pieces of information when I was awkwardly sat on, I would have been rolling. I would have been like fuck you bitch, I would have been mad as hell. But yeah, she hit me for 80 bucks for a fucking lap dance. That's what you get, yeah, and then and jose yelled at me for giving him a lap he goes dude, you ever get a girl like that on me again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was like it was either you or me yeah, it was definitely gonna be you.

Speaker 2:

that's a funny shit, but yeah, that was. It was fun. We had a good time out there, though we had I mean there was and then it got, like I said, we got to the end of the night, we're done. My brother's sleeping, brooke's pissed that no girls are dancing on the pole, like it's just. The whole thing started going south real quick, you know, but at any rate, all right, I think we put in enough time for today, next week. That's what we're gonna do, though that's gonna be what that's gonna be our goal for next week is to try and get that going like that I think that'll be cool.

Speaker 2:

In my opinion, all right sounds good. And then I think that, uh, everybody should go and subscribe to our youtube channel and then that way you can uh, those are cool, I forgot I had those. I hit the wrong button, I was gonna play it, start playing our out music and I'm on the wrong thing and I end up hitting the voice changer. And I do that with Dylan.

Speaker 1:

Dylan loves it. It's the coolest to him. Sounds like I'm sucking on helium. Whatever I want.

Speaker 2:

So, anyways, let's get out of here. Everybody, go subscribe to our YouTube channel, our Facebook and our our. What else do we got? We got Tik TOK, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram. So if you want to go get subscribed YouTube and Instagram, so if you want to go get subscribed, if you go and do the subscriptions to Instagram and Facebook, we will be. Why did that shut off? Our exit, music shut off. We got to get an engineer in this, motherfucker. That's all I'm saying. All right, we're getting out of here. Peace.

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