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From White Trash Bash to Harris’s Hypocrisies: Hilarious Memories and Policy Critiques

August 25, 2024 James Tucker & Santiago Lopez Season 2 Episode 39

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Ever been to a white trash party where the playlist rocks hair bands and a friend shows up with aluminum foil on his teeth? We kick off our latest episode of Madhouse Bar Talks with some morning banter and hilarious recollections from such a gathering. From side-splitting outfits to a bathing suit adorned with a host's picture, we relive the unforgettable moments that had everyone talking. Despite a rocky start filled with technical hiccups, we share our laughter and thoughts on how to keep our live stream smoother next time.

Switching gears, we dive into the world of politics, dissecting Kamala Harris’s tenure as Vice President and the stark contradictions between her promises and actions. We draw intriguing comparisons to Donald Trump’s policies and scrutinize the media's varied reactions. The economic implications of Harris's proposed $25,000 grant for first-time homebuyers are on the table, as we ponder its potential to inflate property values even further. Wrapping up with a look at the dramatic rise in property values and the broader impacts of inflation and wage stagnation, this episode promises a blend of humor, political insights, and economic commentary you won't want to miss.

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Speaker 1:

Cheap ass. You know, I'm like damn, you heard it here first, right right, right, you're listening to our podcast. Right, we're the best you know. They say people that cuss are morons. So I'm an honest motherfucker. Put the fish away, Reggie. It don't even hurt to get birthed, Not for me.

Speaker 2:

You got your lights on Nothing to it, let's do it. Come on, I'm ready, I'm ready, I want to do it.

Speaker 1:

I'm ready. I got what I'm right now you want to see Jimmy and Geek Madhouse Bar Talks.

Speaker 2:

baby, that is a bunch of shit, if you ask me, that thing makes no sense. Good morning, madhouse Bar Talks. How are you guys doing this morning? We're doing just good, just good, just good. That's it. No better, no worse, just good. Trying to figure out if we're online now because, as I went to go do it, of course things are perfect. We do it, and then boom, an error pops up on my, my screen, and I don't know what that means. So I have no idea. This is our normal everyday thing. I guess it's just the way it is. I guess it says one concurrent viewer. Are you on yet?

Speaker 1:

just now, so I don't know if it was before.

Speaker 2:

You said that I don't know what the hell is going on. It says end stream, so I'm assuming we're streaming.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I see it.

Speaker 2:

Does it look good or does it look okay? Now it says two. I look good yeah, even without your light on.

Speaker 1:

No, it's on.

Speaker 2:

Oh is it? Oh, okay, you're in the middle of the screen again and everything too.

Speaker 1:

Not really.

Speaker 2:

I need a scooter, you should have came to the white trash party last. Oh my god, I was so tired. We had a lot of fun. We were hanging out, working, uh, playing some good music. The music was good. Last night I was jamming donnie, come over there, I. So I set it up. I basically took our Rodecaster that we use up here and I had that set up down there, running right into the amps and I'm playing the music or whatever, and I have the white trash playlist. I took some time. I made a whole white trash party playlist. So I go through and I hit it, let it play, everything's good, nobody's complaining, everybody's happy, it's all good music. It's not like I mean, it's like a lot of like you know, hair band and like just not just good music, like just flat out good music mixed in with some funny shit like white trash and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

So who ruined the?

Speaker 2:

party. No that. Donnie comes over and I'm sitting. I'm nowhere near it. Now I got my ipad bluetooth into the roadcaster and it's just playing over there and I'm just ignoring it. I'm enjoying myself. Donnie comes over, he goes. Uh, where do we make requests?

Speaker 1:

you should have said in the restroom.

Speaker 2:

I'm like request, do I look like I'm behind a DJ booth? Get out of here and then he goes. Well, can I go mess with it? I go, I'm on a Pandora playlist. Don't mess with that shit. Who knows what would happen. You know I ain't risking that everybody's going smooth.

Speaker 2:

Somebody always got something to say always somebody gotta mess with my vibe. But that was, it was, I mean it was chill. It was pretty good. Always got something to say, always somebody got to mess with my vibe. But that was, it was, I mean it was chill. It was pretty good. Frickin' Ogle man. He always has some of the best ones, oh yeah, he looked like Malibu's Most Wanted. You know what I'm talking about. What's that kid's name that played in that movie?

Speaker 1:

That's what he looked like Malib's most wanted he'd come in. He had aluminum foil on his teeth. I don't know where the hell this guy comes up with this shit.

Speaker 2:

Man, it's funny though oh man, I was dying laughing. He had me and we got a picture of him, but it wasn't the greatest picture. It was an okay picture. It wasn't like a, it wasn't. I wish you could see it the way I see, I'm sure somebody got better pictures yeah, he come in with like his hat sideways or whatever, and I mean it was, it was funny, but it wasn't like over the top, like it usually is no, I mean it was funny, but it wasn't like it.

Speaker 2:

It didn't have that. The picture I mean, you know, I mean in person, it was freaking hilarious. When I seen it in person I was dying laughing. But like the actual, like photograph that we got of them, it's whatever it's, it's, you know, not the greatest thing ever but.

Speaker 2:

But it's funny though. But there he is, that's a picture of him there. He's's got, you know, and Amanda, and Amanda's got a bathing suit with my picture all over it, like on the titties and on the hoo-ha, and then that's Misty, our neighbor that lives across the street, the one on the right there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can't see it.

Speaker 2:

You can't see it because it's too small the view. Yeah, that's what happens. You're on your phone right looking at it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you took my monitor.

Speaker 2:

You never had a monitor. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

That laptop was right here.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that laptop's out my bike yeah.

Speaker 1:

But uh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean that monitor was delayed. Anyways, I think we need to get a live monitor to you, like we had, but like where we were talking. I think that'd be a good idea. I think, I don't know no, I know.

Speaker 1:

But you say, look at this, and I look and I'm like I can't see it I'm not talking to you, I'm talking I'm talking to everybody else, but you, oh thanks, I might as well go home that freaking, uh.

Speaker 2:

That party was fun though.

Speaker 1:

We had a good time I wanted to come, but I just committed myself too much stuff yesterday donnie didn't come.

Speaker 2:

donnie didn't come uh dressed, I mean kind of he came from work clothes with a, with a hound dog, so I kind of was like he might have won. I don't know. I mean it's hard to say, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, ogo really participates in all that shit oh he's good at it too.

Speaker 2:

He's always getting like the AJ he did. Oh my God, All of them have been pretty good.

Speaker 1:

Which one do you think is the best? We were talking about this, but I think that when he did, Dave was pretty good.

Speaker 2:

That? No, to me it's definitely Howe. I think it's still Howe, dude. When he did Howe, I mean I don't know how many times I thought it was Howe. Like I literally looked over and it's like when you're looking at him like face-to-face, like we are right now, you don't think he looks like Hal. But when you're like walk through the bar and you see him over there, he looks like Hal. It's like it was wild.

Speaker 1:

I think the Dave Ewells is the one that got me, and actually actually with the stilts.

Speaker 2:

The freaking Rick one was pretty good. All of them. Yeah, everybody on there, everybody was like when we posted the picture of that. Everybody's like is that that rick? Everybody was saying that I swear to god it was.

Speaker 1:

That was pretty good too, actually yeah, well, you know what, everybody's got their favorites. I think that dave was the best for me, because I was walking through and I just kind of glanced and I thought it was dave and then I realized it was. I said what the hell?

Speaker 2:

it was pretty good. So when you're watching it right now, you're watching it on YouTube, yeah, that's good. So that's the best way, I think, to do it. I think everybody needs to go that's listened, that needs to go to subscribe to our YouTube channel and then that way they'll be able to see it. You know what I mean. When it comes up, it'll actually notify them. It's not like it's a paid subscription, it's just subscribe to the YouTube channel and it helps us out, share it with your friends. All that stuff you know what I mean Gets views.

Speaker 2:

We were getting the most views of everything on there, although I put that video up because we went to see Jelly Roll Wednesday and Oliver Anthony opened for them, which is that Richmond North of Richmond that we played when it first came out about a year ago. That was, we played it when it first came out. He went viral and his, his video that I recorded of him stewing Richmond, richmond, richmond North of Richmond, and he talks for a minute beforehand. I posted that video it's like at 140 000 views on tiktok. So that's the most we've ever had. We've never had. We've never broke the 100 000 range actually with anything we posted. Bill was close, but not like that. That one with bill was still pretty good, though I still think it'd have been cool to do one where we get him like where he cracks it and then comes in shaved in the Rolls Royce and stuff. I think that shit would have been funny. It would have been a good one.

Speaker 1:

It would have been a good.

Speaker 2:

It would have been a good one. That would have been a good one.

Speaker 1:

So we ain't doing the debating kind of thing today.

Speaker 2:

Why.

Speaker 1:

Because I worked all week.

Speaker 2:

You debating kind of thing today? Why?

Speaker 1:

because I worked all week, you don't. You don't know how to stick up for your girl, kamala. I got somebody that'll do it.

Speaker 2:

You know how I know trump is right more than anything because kamala's using her his campaign. She's like I'm fixing everything on day one. It's like Everything Joe did.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean it's like aren't you in office right now?

Speaker 1:

Right but yeah, it's like I'm going to come in here and I'm going to fix everything.

Speaker 2:

And day one Well.

Speaker 1:

Joe's the one that's in there right now, so you're fixing what he's done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't understand that it's because they're using Trump's campaign. She's like no tax on tips, it's literally Trump's campaign. It's funny. That's why we're doing it. That's why the whole point of it was the whole spin, because when Trump says it, they make it out like it's this horrible thing and nobody can get to it, but when she says it, the media gives it this oh, what a great idea.

Speaker 2:

Their big thing now is that the only policy that she's basically put off that's the other. She keeps saying she's going to fix the border. It's like that's for sure the one thing you were in charge of. For sure that's what Joe Biden put you in charge of. You're going to fix it on day one. But the thing she keeps saying she says she's going to give 25 grand for everybody that buys a house I think a first time buyers only, though maybe 25 grand down to put down on the house, which is all that's going to do is raise the value of the houses, the property values. So that she said she did. That's just different of trump. Trump hasn't said he'd do that, because that's stupid, because it's just going to raise the property values, basically, and the last thing we need is property values to go up they're crazy right now, yeah it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

I seen, I seen that lorraine county, on average, is 40 higher. That's what they raised them on average across the board, 40 percent. Dude, that's a. That's like like tech, like your value of your house doesn't go up 40 in like 10 years you know what I'm saying like, and all of a sudden we're going from one year to the next 40. Bam, I don't understand. That's huge. That's. I said it, dude. I said it right when we were doing the whole thing with the, with the, the shutdown and all that shit, and they were spending all that money, that they were spending everything. I go, that's how they're gonna get. They're gonna freaking raise, they're gonna, they're gonna make inflation so high that the debt doesn't look like nothing anymore and that's what they're doing. That's that's where they're at. And now wages have to just catch up, because wages are not there. They're just not. They're crazy, crazy, out of spite. You get to, you get to.

Speaker 2:

I was looking at that. 99, I think it was. Yeah, 99. Average household income. That's 25 years ago. That's a long time ago. 35. 44. 44,000. Household income Household income $44,000. Now, at that time I was a union carpenter and my wife at the time didn't work and I made $48,000. So I was above just working by myself, with no wife working. I was above with a carpenter. Now it's like six figures. It's like a household income is like a hundred and something or whatever, and a carpenter is only making like 60 something. So 70, maybe, well, not even 70. If you don't do overtime it's not even 70. It's like 68. You know what I mean 68, 69. And that's without you. So if you compare the two household income to that just tells you right, there we're like. One income is not even keeping up at all. But the problem is everybody's working two, two incomes. That's the problem.

Speaker 1:

Two, well, husband and wife no, I'm talking, they're working more than that. Well, husband and wife, no, I'm talking, they're working more than that. Yeah, somebody got two jobs.

Speaker 2:

Shit, yeah side jobs, two jobs damn that side job. Shit's gonna go to down too if they freaking, if they never gonna happen, if they stop getting rid of, if they get rid of cash don't matter, you'll trade you'll barter yeah is that true? I would I don't know, man bartering, don't pay your bills, sure it does. I don't know about that. If there's no cash, that's the problem. That's what they want. They want that cashless society something else currency that way you can't freaking go hide what you're buying.

Speaker 1:

A basket of fucking corn or something that's scary.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's true. That's like taking us back in time if you do that yeah, that's somebody's gonna have a garden.

Speaker 1:

They're gonna need a rough. Yeah, you're gonna get a basket of fucking apples yeah, that's not good at all.

Speaker 2:

Fuck that. No, no, no, no no, it's crazy, I don't know. I yeah, I mean that's what they want, that like cashless society, cashless society scares me.

Speaker 2:

That's, that's just too much you know that's too much government way too much and you're talking about I mean, you used to not even pay personal taxes I still feel like we shouldn't have to. I don't think we need to. I think that personal taxes like on your wages and shit I don't think that need to. I think that personal taxes like on your wages and shit I don't think that should even be a thing, especially when they're taking and sending billions and billions to fight other people's wars somewhere. Fuck that. Why are we doing that? I just don't understand why we do that Constantly, sending people money constantly and it's people with money.

Speaker 2:

I don't get it. I mean there Constantly and it's people with money. I don't get it. I mean there's a lot of broke motherfuckers around here that could use some money and you're just taking all our money and taking it over and in fact, I'll take it, not even taking our money, because we're giving away money that ain't our money. We're giving China's money away and just in debt for it, like what the hell? What kind of sense does that make? But they need taxes. They don't need taxes. If you can go in debt to send them fucking monies, then you can go in the debt to fix our shit. Fuck that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sounds good, but there's got to be reasons for it. What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

Ally kind of shit. I don't know, I ain't into that politics shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm not talking about politics. I'm talking about my money. It goes back to politics taxes yeah, I want my fucking money back government taxes fucking it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

It's, it's absolutely ridiculous when you consider the fact that that that the dollar gets taxed so many times over and over and over. You get taxed once you earn it, when you spend it, you know. I mean, if you buy a house, you get taxed, everything gets. It's fucking crazy and it's just, it's over and over and it's like gotta believe at some point they could just have some sort of just. This is the only tax. How's about a couple?

Speaker 1:

years of, just like a relief. Quit taxing people for a couple years. Let them catch up, jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know about that, even Like I can understand. Okay, when you buy a car or you buy fuel or you buy tires, that you take those tax dollars and work on the roads, I get that, I understand you know what I mean. There's taxes that go to the roads when you buy gasoline and stuff like that. I get that. But why do we got to pay property taxes and city taxes, I mean for schools? I get it. There's schools.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but that's what the lotto was supposed to be for.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was going to say and you're telling me the lottery ain't making enough money to cover the schools. Them other guys are killing it.

Speaker 1:

Remember, a couple years ago there was this big block on sports because they didn't have enough money for their. They were doing fundraisers for their uniforms and shit Like. What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what goes on. And then they shut you down. And then they say, oh, we're shutting sports down unless you pass a levy, right, and then they they sadly get you to the point where you go okay, fine, we'll pass the levy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'll do it for the kids. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2:

Because it's only going to make my taxes go up 30 bucks. Then they come around and reappraise your house 40% more. And then you go. So now, not only did it go up, they get 40% more, when the truth is, if they wanted more money for the schools, all they had to do was go reappraise your house from the get-go. But they wanted to make sure they suckered you first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they probably laugh about it. Yeah, they have to be. They got him again. Got him there you go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what your boy, though he is your boy. You don't even know he's your boy because you aren't into politics, but he's your boy Robert Kennedy Jr he's. He just joined the Trump. He's basically endorsing Trump. He was out on stage with Trump. But you know his big thing, right? He's got one real thing that say that he goes after and that's it. That's a one big thing that matters to him. It's the only thing that matters to him and it's the FDA.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's all he cares about. He's like this is bullshit. This is like that's ridiculous. They're funding everything. They're paying for this. They're paying for that. He goes. It's bullshit. He said they should. He goes the FDA and CDC or whatever. No CD, what is it? I forget what. It is All that he said. They're funded by the big companies that are making the foods and stuff. That's who's funding their programs. And he goes. Of course they're going to let them do what they need to do. Bill Gates is probably on their fucking board.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what he's saying.

Speaker 2:

That's basically what he's saying. Yeah, so that's a plus on your end because they would they want to put, but then trump's like. I seen it. I don't know how real it is, but I saw trump put should we make bobby kennedy the head of the cia? Dude, that would be fucking crazy. They killed his dad, they killed his uncle and they and the cia is I'm pretty sure who did it. It I'm just saying I mean I'm 95% sure no, believe it, dude.

Speaker 2:

I'm not alone in this. I think everybody believes that. Oh come on, I mean everybody. And I think that they just tried to assassinate Trump too. They just took what was it? Five people. Five people are off. They're on Secret Service. They're on duty now on whatever off duty, whatever you want to call it. Suspension suspension, that's the word. I don't know what's going to happen with it. But yeah, like five people. Yeah, they said that. They said that they spotted him 45 seconds. They knew he was there with the gun at the edge of the roof and they let him. They let him stay there until he took a shot or two.

Speaker 2:

That's fucking crazy, right yeah, that's pretty fucking crazy and but yeah, if they made him the head of the cia, that would be fucking crazy, dude, because I mean emotions. Get in there, dude. You're not gonna. You're not gonna get like to see what actually happened to your dad and your uncle and not lose your shit and show everybody.

Speaker 1:

Nah, he probably already seen all of it.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think so. Every time they bring that out.

Speaker 1:

Those guys are so connected, come on.

Speaker 2:

Everybody who's ever opened that up decides to close it again because it's supposed to be out. We're supposed to see it already. It was supposed to be whatever. It was 35 years or something. We's supposed to be out. We're supposed to see it already. It was supposed to be whatever. It was 35 years or something. We were supposed to be able to look into all that. Everybody closes it back up, trump included. He opened it and closed it too. Everybody has opened it and said, nah, the world's not ready to see this. That's fucking crazy. It's because they're aliens, it's got to be the cia, they say. He said they set up nixon to the cia. That's because they're aliens, it's got to be the CIA. They said they set up Nixon too the CIA. That's what they say. They got too much power. I think that would be perfect. Put him in charge of it. But I mean, if his big thing is the FDA and stuff, I think there's another spot for him, right? I mean, let him go attack that food shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's why I think everybody needs to open their eyes to that shit.

Speaker 2:

No, that's what he says. That's his big thing. That's his huge thing, though but I mean that's all he's worked on for like 10 years is trying to fix that. That's all he wants. That's his big big thing. I actually like him. If I thought he had a chance I would have voted for him, but he never had a chance in it. You know what I mean. But that's the first Kennedy to ever endorse a Republican candidate. I mean, kennedy has been synopsis with the Democratic Party always. That's a Democratic family. That was for the Democratic Party. Always that's a Democratic family. That was for the Democratic Party. That was, you know, always the way it was, and he's the first one now. He moved out of the Democratic Party, went independent for a little bit, and now he just moved over and he's helping Trump. I would bet you he ends up on a Republican ticket at some point. That's crazy, but that's also that's Trump. That's trump like unite in the country. I'm just saying pulled one democrat over.

Speaker 1:

everybody else seems united, except your uncle no uncle fernando he's still, he's still holding out he's still holding out not only him, a lot of people where you see people that are. Man.

Speaker 2:

Do you really you?

Speaker 1:

really want to debate somebody.

Speaker 2:

Do I really want to debate somebody? I'm not a debater. I don't want to debate nobody, why?

Speaker 1:

Why you wanted to do it with me. I don't know nothing about politics.

Speaker 2:

We weren't supposed to debate it. That's not what we were doing. We were going to spin it. Spin going to do the news story, and you were going to do it for harris. How would you do it? You know what I'm saying? Like that's what we were trying to do is spin the the headline, basically okay the way they do.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you said okay, I don't want to debate. I'm not a debater, I don't fucking. I don't want to debate nobody. I'm no donald trump. I would be like him if I was in a debate. Yeah, you're ugly.

Speaker 1:

Don't do it with Fernando.

Speaker 2:

He'll go crazy. I mean, I just don't know People don't like him because he's mean or whatever, but I don't know anybody who really doesn't like him, honestly, like anymore. There was people that were like saying, saying, oh, he's mean and this and that, and it's like now that people are just like oh yeah, he's telling the truth, he's all right. Now people are just like they, they've had enough. I think this economy and everything is so fucking fucked up and getting everything's getting so out of hand. I mean cars, dude. So there goes another example when I was making $48,000 a year in the union or whatever in 99, when that was like the average or whatever it was. So a car like you could buy a truck back then for like $15,000. Fifteen, yeah, $15,000. That's four times that price, right now At least. And a house was like a nice house was like $150,000. That's four times that price, right now At least. And a house was like a nice house was like 150. Yeah, that's four times that right now. You know what I'm saying. But wages are nowhere near four times that, Not even close. Like they said it.

Speaker 2:

I remember them saying like back right when I graduated high school. I remember hearing that they want to separate, like the rich and the poor. They don't want a middle class, they want an auditor. You know what I mean Completely get the middle class auditor. And I thought you know over time that might happen. But God damn, it feels like. It feels like shit skyrocketed overnight. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like literally feels like things went like in three years tripled everything cars, everything the cost of everything you went from paying 45 000 for a vehicle to 70 000 for the same vehicle in like three or four years. It's crazy, it doesn't make any sense. But then you gotta work harder, then you're grumpier and you ain't got time to watch the politics.

Speaker 1:

That's what it is they don't want you to watch them just get to work, make me my money, mother fucker.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I think that's cool. Fda is gonna go down pretty sure I hope so yeah, I mean you got a good point with that. I mean that's one thing I do give you credit. That's like there is. They do a lot of fucked up shit with our food and our and our, just that, just the way we look. You know what I'm saying. Like, just like, just like you've seen those video, those pictures that are all over the internet, like a beach in 1974 and a beach in 2024 you know what I?

Speaker 2:

mean, you've seen it right yeah and it's like fucking everybody's skinny six packs right now they're like just fucking whales, all, all of them. And then everybody's on the politically correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm up. Yeah, I'm up. Fuck it, I haven't been dieting. I'm up 10 pounds already.

Speaker 1:

I got to freaking.

Speaker 2:

Go back on my diet, fucking 10 pounds already Like it was nothing, because it's the food we're eating. We're eating garbage.

Speaker 1:

Everything we're eating is we ain't got nowhere to go. There's no, what?

Speaker 2:

no natural good foods around no, not, unless you're like growing your own, or well, and then if you're, or if you're working hard, and if you're working I mean, I could eat that garbage when I'm working hard and I stay lean, but you got to be like working hard, healthy, it doesn't matter you know it's not healthy no, like we talk about health and we're smoking cigarettes like a freight train I mean, you know my grandfather.

Speaker 2:

He smoked cigarettes his whole life. He was like 96 when he died, or something like that, and he smoked his whole life yeah, but he wasn't eating his garbage so no, he lived.

Speaker 1:

He lived in watch virginia back in the woods.

Speaker 2:

He'd be chopping wood. When he was in his 80s he was fucking splitting wood and shit, like you know. I mean he was working that, that physical activity.

Speaker 2:

You can't right that'll keep your health going, regardless that physical activity. You'll do it every time. But I don't know if it's like my mom. My mom is by far healthier than my dad. My dad worked all the time but my mom just, she don't stop. My mom just, yeah, yeah, she never stops, dude, she's always like, whether she's doing yard work or cleaning the house or something I mean she will get into like going on a computer and stuff like that, or maybe watching shows a lot, but a lot of times she doesn't even have cable at the house, a lot Like in the summer. If she did pay for cable she would shut it off in the summer, only in the winter she'd have it, because in the summer she she did pay for cable. She would shut it off in a, in a in a summer, and only in the winter she'd have it, because in the summer she's just outside. You know what I mean doing this or doing that or whatever, even if it's just washing it, she comes over and visits. She like does the dishes, cooks food, like she just doesn't stop. You know that.

Speaker 2:

But where my dad? Yeah, he works hard, but when he gets off work he just lays on the couch. He gets off work, he just lays on the couch. You know, or did Now? He just lays on the couch. You know he broke his back. He don't want to have surgery. He said, nope, nah, I'm going to heal normal. He goes. Everybody I know has had back surgery. They're in really bad shape. He goes. I'm thinking if I just let it heal the way it's supposed to and whatever, I don't think I'll be any worse shaped than they are. It's not hard to argue. That's a pretty good argument. I think I mean it's not a bad argument. I honestly kind of I don't know. I mean I feel like God is a better surgeon than anyone else, right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, God also gave us surgeons.

Speaker 2:

Did he or was that Satanan? No, I don't know, I don't know man, I feel like the whole medical field is awesome.

Speaker 1:

That's another horrible, different subject that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

I think that's a bigger problem than the fd8 I think they're both the same you think so?

Speaker 1:

oh yeah, not the same company, I'm just saying it's probably the same company, probably I'm just saying they both got the equal fucking crookedness it's just so crooked.

Speaker 2:

I just feel like there's too much like they. Just they have you like, where you're always scared and everybody is always trying to go to the doctor and how you know I'm saying everybody's the whole problem with the country in one word Do it. One word, one, let me see, it's got to be one.

Speaker 1:

It's lobbyists.

Speaker 2:

Man, I know, that's true, that's true. Yeah, they should cut that out too.

Speaker 1:

That should be illegal as fuck. I don't even understand it. Did you see, theo?

Speaker 2:

Vaughn's interview with Bernie Sanders. That's what he said. That's like. He's like yeah, lobbyists are like horrible.

Speaker 1:

That's the whole fucking problem with the country.

Speaker 2:

I don't disagree.

Speaker 1:

That's it. There is no other problem.

Speaker 2:

I don't disagree, you get rid of that shit, make it illegal to do that shit. They spend huge money yeah.

Speaker 1:

They get these like super PACs where they like just dump in money for things that they want. And if you got multi-billion dollars sitting there at your you know disposal and you tell somebody, hey, push this issue so I can make more billions, and you got so much money where you could be, like, here, I'll support your campaign and I'll give you this after, and all that shit, that's all it is, and it's like yeah, harris, once she became, like the, the presidential candidate for them, it's hundreds of millions.

Speaker 2:

She's got so much more money in her campaign than trump. It's not even funny. They just shoot money to her tons and tons and that's all. Like you say, lobbyists, big packs and super packs and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

It's not her, it's all of them, every one of them Trump, don't do it. I'm sure he's got something.

Speaker 2:

I don't think. So Trump is not. Trump is not have that it's not, it's not on. I mean, it's just that he's pretty much like he's funded by his. His donations are private, private donors, like individuals that are donating like you or me or whoever. That's the most he gets, and then his own money.

Speaker 1:

Whatever?

Speaker 2:

He's the only president that is worth less after being in office by a lot. He's the only one ever, ever, in the history of all the time. He's the only one worth less after he became president.

Speaker 1:

But you could also say because he was expecting to win the second time.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he was going to make his money on the second run. I don't think so. I think he had the money. I think he feels that the Trump organization, the family, the kids and everything I think he feels like if he gets the country right and ripe, that they can make the money off of it themselves. They don't need to do anything else.

Speaker 1:

I think his kids made a lot of money when he was in office.

Speaker 2:

I don't think so. I don't think so. Where Show it to me?

Speaker 1:

I ain't got all that info.

Speaker 2:

That's not true. First of all, one of them was working in his office, was working for it with him, and the other one was running just the Trump organization. But it went down. Net worth went down.

Speaker 1:

Their net worth went down. The Trump organization's net worth went down.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking about individuals. Yeah, I don't think they made money. You're confusing him with Joe Biden. His kids got a lot of money when he got in office.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not confusing.

Speaker 2:

I think you might be. No, not that I'm aware of, not that I've never heard anything of that sort ever.

Speaker 1:

Well, I usually don't make shit up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you listen to the shit they put on the news.

Speaker 1:

How do they do that? You listen to shit on the news too. What are you talking about? No, I don talking about. No, I don't. I listen to the news, but I don't, I don't believe everything I hear.

Speaker 2:

I don't either. What have I said?

Speaker 1:

that I believed that trump's kids made more money when he was in office that was almost like a question I'm saying like damn, I'm like am I right like did I hear it right, did, did, or did they make more money?

Speaker 2:

well, they say that, but how now? How does that work? Like, okay, you got freedom of speech, we could say whatever we want. Okay, theoretically right.

Speaker 1:

So if you look up his daughter right now, well, yeah, his daughter, his son or whatever, look at their net worth before he was president and look at it now.

Speaker 2:

We can, we could do that, we could look that up. Then I'll be like dang told you. I don't think so. I Probably to some degree, but not ridiculous amounts. Not that I'm aware of Trump's children before and after Trump's children Now. I know Barron's worth a ton because he just turned 18. I know that that's different.

Speaker 1:

We'll leave him out of it. Go with the daughter or the other son.

Speaker 2:

He's got a good family man. He's got good kids. That's got to say something about you. The kids are just all pretty good.

Speaker 1:

His daughter's fine, but anyways go ahead.

Speaker 2:

The second one. The one isn't, though, the one is just there.

Speaker 1:

I don't care. I don't even know what you're talking about. The one I'm talking about is fine.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 1:

Which one of trump's?

Speaker 2:

kids has the highest net worth. Yeah, go, that's smart. Go with all right, we got that a question there. What's that, say, the rundown of donald's kids? Uh, okay, who cares? I don't care about that, but who's got the most net worth? I don't know. That's a lot of reading for me.

Speaker 1:

Man, it's a simple question.

Speaker 2:

Donald Trump Jr is worth $350 million $350 million.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what was he worth before he was president?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, let's find out, let's look that up. Donald Trump Jr has an insane net worth around 350. Most of this he is one of the executive vice presidents of his father's company. But okay, so now all we got to do is Donald Trump's net worth 20. We'll do what 20. When did he get it? When 16. So Donald Trump Jr's net worth in 20. We'll do what 20. When did he get it? When I was 16. So Donald Trump Jr's net worth in 2015. Donald Trump Jr's net worth in 2015.

Speaker 1:

Boom, $20.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not $20. It's by far not $20.

Speaker 1:

I bet it's around $50 million.

Speaker 2:

No, I doubt that. Well, for one, I think he took over the Trump company when Trump went into office. I think you know what I'm saying, so I mean there's that you know what I mean Like.

Speaker 1:

Trump was running it. You're getting away from the question, right.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to answer it, but this damn thing, don't go there. It's not that it's not. Google is just a piece of shit.

Speaker 1:

How dare?

Speaker 2:

you, they are, they're just I piece of shit.

Speaker 1:

How dare you?

Speaker 2:

they are, they're just, I mean we're on youtube, which is their platform, but man, what a piece of shit. What I don't see, it that's not, then I don't know. It says she knows why. Why am I in a page that says she knows? Because she answered this fucking question. Let me copy this. Let's see, this is stupid. Yeah, we got to go somewhere else. I don't know why I'm on something called she Knows Now, this is stupid.

Speaker 1:

Because the women know everything, especially about money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my ass, yes, donald Trump Jr's net worth 2015 2015. All right, and don't go to she knows forbes fax. That sounds better. Let's check that. It says they're individually, but this isn't.

Speaker 1:

This isn't 2019 what's the same it says they're individually.

Speaker 2:

Ivanka is worth $25 million, Donald Trump Jr $25 million.

Speaker 1:

So $25 to what did you say?

Speaker 2:

No, but listen, listen, listen. But the Trump organization is worth $375. So when you factor that in so I don't know how you do that then Because I don't know how much they got of that, so they were worth 25 on our own, and then the Trump organization is partially theirs and it was worth 375 at the time. So I mean, I don't know. 324 is what this says right here, 324 with a total of 759 for all of Trump's holdings.

Speaker 1:

And what year?

Speaker 2:

2019. Didn't give me 2015.

Speaker 2:

That's the question I get it, but it didn't give it to me. I don't know what you want me to do, dude, if the end line and just fucking searching on Google. I'm not doing it, but that's what it's given me. But I mean that that, as far as I know, the only way that Donald Trump Jr has made a lot more money is because he took over. He's the one who took over the Trump organization. You know what I'm saying. So I mean, yeah, he's going to be worth more now because he probably gets paid a shit ton from the Trump organization, because he runs it now when it used to be Donald Trump running it before he ran for president. Because I don't know how that works. Are you allowed to still own your company or run your company and be proud? I don't think you are.

Speaker 1:

You still are, but it's just your son's name.

Speaker 2:

I think you can own the holdings, but no, no, I think you can have the holdings of it, but I don't think you can actually run the day-to-day. I don't think you have time to. Anyways, if you're running the country, I mean. I just don't even think you would.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're asking somebody to be a president and then they're going to be. Well, I got to go do my side shit, you know, it's just not good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right.

Speaker 2:

There is no side shit when you're president. But yeah, could you imagine, you've got a fucking new like hotel being built like you're? You're in the middle of a hotel and there's, like you know, some fucking stupid inspector that comes out and says you know, well, we don't really care for the way you've got this, we want this done instead. And then, all of a sudden, the plumber's arguing am I supposed to do it as a carpenter supposed to do as an electrician? Supposed to do it? Who's supposed to do this shit? And you got them arguing and fighting about it. Meanwhile, you're trying to figure out whether or not iran's about to drop a nuke, but you're like god damn it I'm gonna lose a shit ton of money over here like that would not go well.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that would be. That would be a pretty bad situation I gotta go to my building I, I mean it, just I don't know that the whole thing it's I don't know. I, I really don't. I don't know how that whole whole world works, but I, I mean I, I believe that he's worth more today than he was in 2016.

Speaker 1:

I mean, fuck, it's eight years ago no, I get that, but I'm saying that the dramatic jump, yeah, I think they're getting a little something too. It's just the way it is. That you could be like oh he's. He's not taking any money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he is somewhere well, I'm not saying he's, I think that the country will do better. Everybody will make money, especially businessmen under trump for sure, because they want that. Like well, she's like saying she wants to fucking, she wants to go after all these companies for price gouging. Like you can't do that. Like literally she's trying to go after the food industry for price gouging.

Speaker 1:

Why can't she?

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? But show how it's price gouging, show how it is. I mean, gas is a lot more money. Your electric bill has tripled. So if I'm running a factory, my electric bill is tripled. You want everybody's wages to go up, and when I raise my products cost, you're going to tell me I'm getting it no, bullshit, that doesn't, that doesn't work that way. Going to tell me I'm getting it no, bullshit, that doesn't, that doesn't work that way. If your profit line is the same as it was 10 years ago, percentage wise, then oh well, that's how it is. And every company, most companies, are working towards a percentage. You know what I'm saying? Like they're working on a 20% or 10% or whatever it is. They're working off of profit wise. And what I understand, like the food manufacturing end of things, is like a two percent profit margin. I mean, fuck that dude. And you're gonna say that they're price gouging. But you gotta a no more minimum wage employees. We want everybody to be making huge money. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

we want this, we want that, and then I mean, it's gonna tax you more, so it doesn't matter yeah, that's what?

Speaker 2:

because? Yeah, because they want as much money to come in so that that debt don't look like shit. That's the whole. That's the whole. That's the whole game that they're that's running. That's the whole thing. But I don't think that, I don't know that anybody can fix it like they say, like trump. I don't think trump can fix it honestly, like that, like the prices to wage differences right now I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

Warren Buffett's like he's fucking, he's selling shit too. You know what I mean. He's honest, but I mean I just don't know, Like I honestly don't know if he can fix it. I mean, how do you fix that, Like the fact that things are going up? How do you fix that? I mean, if you've got all these electric cars out there, Electric bills are going to go up. There's a whole new electric grid that has to be funded somehow.

Speaker 1:

That's not going to work. It's over with.

Speaker 2:

It's not over with. They're still going to have them. They're not going to dominate it.

Speaker 1:

No, like they was planning on it. It was like everything is going to be electric, but it's not.

Speaker 2:

They're trying to and I it's, it's not going to either way. It's a lot of electric stress on electric grid. That was already at its max. I mean you're you, you're the country's like growing by however many million a freaking year, so all those people need electric too. I mean it's just that the electric grid is not what it was, and I mean it's you know it needs to be upgraded, probably all the way across, especially if you're going to try and fucking tack on you know they.

Speaker 2:

I think they said like one charging is like replaces, like a city. One one charging station is like the equivalent electricity of a city. Like that. I can't even fathom that. Like you know it. It doesn't make sense to me how that can even be. Or a city block. Maybe they set a city block. They might've set a city block, but I mean I. All I'm saying is is how do you go after them and say they're price gouging in a capitalist world? See, that's the whole problem. If you want, competition is how you keep prices down. That's it. That's how it works. I mean supply and demand. That's the whole point of a capitalist system. You can't set the bar and say, oh, this is what it is Then the story you can't charge more than that. You know what I mean. Then people just stop making them. What we just buy it from China is probably what would happen. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And maybe somebody lobbyists for that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure Whoever's getting China money, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, anyways, that's, that's how you fix it. Stop that lobbyist bullshit.

Speaker 2:

I think honestly, I think the biggest problem in America in my opinion I know you're on the FDA thing, my thing is the medical thing and my thing the reason. I think it's the medical. I think that the medical is a problem, and it's not even really the medical that becomes the problem. I think it's insurance and it's the frivolous lawsuits. I think that you could do more for this country by getting rid of frivolous lawsuits. Not getting rid of themivolous lawsuits, not getting rid of them, because I mean people should get money for stuff, I mean if something's really truly there, but I mean people getting filthy rich because shit happened.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying and like it. Just it makes it to where now that everybody has to pay for it. That's what happens, because the insurance is so high that they can't even work. No more like. They can't even like if and I think I brought it up on here before the doctor I went to when I was a kid, he used to like have, like, like a house converted into a doctor. He's like a physician. He was on oberlin avenue when I was a kid. You probably went there too, actually what was his name?

Speaker 2:

I can't remember his name. I was trying to remember it. I don't really remember what it was what nationality was my doctor, I don't know. You seem white, I don't know I don't know what.

Speaker 1:

That wasn't my dog. No, what was your?

Speaker 2:

doctor chinese? Oh, he was chinese really, I don't. Then he had his own practice like that, but they don't have practices like that, no more.

Speaker 1:

The little private ones all over? No.

Speaker 2:

They can't afford insurance, and that happened when I first got in that house, the one that Anthony has now. When I first bought that house, that was when it started he was closing his doors because his insurance went up at that time. Now that was 99?

Speaker 2:

To $12 when things were 48, when I was making 48,000, like we were just talking about 24 something an hour in the Carpenters union. But he went uh, his insurance at that time medical insurance for his, for him to have insurance went up $80,000 a year, went up 80,000. Yeah, so he's like, yeah, I just can't do it. And then I was talking to like some architect and I found I was figuring it out Like the lawsuits are so high that what happens is they have to, they have to say somewhere they have to gang up together.

Speaker 2:

That's why all the doctors are in a firm or architects are in a firm. They can't do their little private practices no more, because you can't cover the cost of the insurance. But if you eliminated the frivolous lawsuits, all of a sudden that disappears. Medical costs disappear like drastically, because it doesn't cost as much for medical if they don't have to pay that much insurance on it. I mean I think it solves a lot of problems. A shit ton. I mean it was back then, like in 2001, I could get medical insurance for a whole family because I had the company A whole family was like, cost me, like I think it was like 300 a month for their whole family for like, and that was great insurance. That was a super med plus where they paid for a hundred percent of coverage, and that was like two 54. No, it was 400 for super med plus back then. And then all of a sudden now, like it's jumped to where it's like 1200 and it only pays, like you know, 80 after a six thousand dollar deductible, like it's a huge difference in 20. I mean it. And it jumped that fast, like as soon as obama went in office. You know what I mean it started going, it started skyrocketing with his whole, because he made, because Obama set standards where they couldn't like there was no pre-existing conditions couldn't be considered Back then.

Speaker 2:

If you had a pre-existing condition, you had to pay big money for your insurance. You know what I'm saying. And so now nobody's allowed to discriminate for you for that. Nobody's allowed to discriminate because you're a woman, nobody's allowed. But it doesn't make sense to me. I mean, if it costs more for a certain person, then they should pay more. Not everybody pays, actually everybody's paying as much as that person would have paid back then. Now you know what I'm saying. It don't make any sense. But it's insurance, I think, is, and that down to lawsuits, I think. I think the lawsuits are the biggest problem with all of it is just the lawsuits, and I'm not saying, if something happened, you know what I mean that you wouldn't or shouldn't get compensated, but I mean that's the biggest expense is insurance for everybody out there. I mean you're talking medical, architectural firms, attorneys, everybody, they're, they're all have to worry about getting sued.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean I think it was way more of when we was younger. People was always so crazy. I don't think it's like that as much now oh no, you're wrong, that.

Speaker 2:

You're a hundred percent wrong. And not only that, the numbers are astronomical now compared to before.

Speaker 1:

What are the more people now?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm talking about like the, the lawsuit, like that. Like I think before I remember like a carpenter would lose his finger and he was. It was only worth like if you lost a finger. It was only worth like maybe 80 grand. You know what I mean. Now it's millions. You know what I. I mean like if you sue because they did something that that made your finger fall off or whatever. I don't know what. I'm just making up something. But they had prices on, like there's certain things in that, what you know what I mean, and it depends on what you make. There's it's all set up for that kind of stuff, the basic stuff, but not like the, you know malpractice, like where somebody dies or something like that. But I mean it. It's definitely something that cost every American every day when they buy insurance, when they buy medical. Why when they? And it's mostly because of our, our judicial system and lawsuits and stuff that go on.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's when you get a good. That's what. That's what lawyers and all that shit's for that. For that's, if they got a good lawyer, then they fight it and you don't get shit and if you win, you get what you're supposed to get yeah, I think there should be caps put on it.

Speaker 2:

That's what I think I really do. I think that there should be caps put on it. I think there should be enough to just just so that I mean, insurance is it's, it's necessary, you have to have insurance when you're, when you're, you know, in business or whatever, you have to have the insurance. So, but I just don't understand, like, at what point is it worth? At what point are we getting the value of what we're paying? Like, literally, at this point? For myself, personally, insurance wise, I put up close to $3,000 a month for insurances, literally close to $3,000. And then that's like, granted, that's the bar and that's cars, and it's probably more than that. If I'm actually, if I think about it, it's probably even more than that, now that I think about it, because it's the yeah, it's's probably more than that. If I'm actually, if I think about it, it's probably even more than that, now that I think about it, cause it's the yeah, it's probably even more than that. It's probably like 35, almost four, that y'all just goes out to insurance.

Speaker 2:

At what point is there enough value that that America's doing that? You know what I'm saying. Even you, like you don't know. You don't even realize how much you pay your auto insurance. You got to have a homeowner's insurance and you got to have medical insurance, which you might not see because you're at work but it's still coming out of get raises. A lot of it goes to medical insurance, which is basically just going to doctors who, whenever they do it, most of their bill is going to insurance. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

At what point are you getting the most bang for your buck? Is what I'm saying. You're almost better off to just where everybody as a whole would be better off if there was a limitation on it. You know what I'm saying. And everybody be a whole on their whole, would be better off. There's limitation on lobbyists too, like how much they could donate, but they're allowed to do like super packs or whatever or something. Not sure how that works exactly. I don't know enough about that stuff like super packs and stuff like that. I don't really enough about that stuff like super packs and stuff like that. I don't really know how that works. But the super packs definitely like work on your behalf. So they're not actually donating it to your campaign, but they're campaigning for you. You know what I'm saying. So it's like it's the same thing, though you know what I mean. I don't know. I really don't know.

Speaker 1:

Everything is a scam man, everything is a scam. Everything know. I really don't know, man, everything is a scam everything.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, I don't disagree, but I think it's getting out of hand, I think it's gotten. I mean, and and the only way that you start is like it's like a bernie sanders type approach, like socialism is like how you start to think that you could fix that. That's giving them total control. You know you're gonna get fucked over, that, you know what I'm saying, but that's the only way that you could actually come to grips with that. But I just don't know how things got. So it's like it's like even tips I've said it on here like when we were kids, tips were 10, like you tip 10. Now it's like 20, 20 is like 25 is like a super good tip. In fact, when you do, like the computers, pull up a tip, they offer you options it's 15, 20, and 25. They don't even offer you 10% tip, like as an option, and that's like it's a percentage basis. So it should have never changed.

Speaker 1:

I get what you're saying, because you can have all them barmaids mad at you, but I get it.

Speaker 2:

I get it, but it was always a percentage basis, so it should have never changed. When it's a percentage basis, it shouldn't change period. That's just the way it should be.

Speaker 1:

Because if your bill went up, then your percentage went up, so then you're going to still pay, right? The money went up, then the percentage went up.

Speaker 2:

So then you're gonna right the money went up, right exactly, so it should never go up, but it yet it is. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I know I get it and it just doesn't make sense to me and I feel like that's how all of america is all the and that the biggest thing is these fucking fees. Dude, are these uh subscriptions? And? And dude I I my phone, like because I get notifications whenever something gets like an automatic payment comes out for dude, it's constant for fricking subscription shit, Like you know Netflix or but I canceled my Netflix, though, because they donated a bunch of money to Kamala Harris and my childish. They ask they go, they go go. Why are you canceling the subscription? I go because I don't want my money going to Harris, like they ask for that.

Speaker 2:

That's what I said. I flat out said it right on there. Yeah, I canceled that shit, fuck them. I'll probably want to see something soon, you know, I mean, but not as of right now. It's canceled, but I haven't watched it much. Anyways, I don't watch a whole lot of it did you see?

Speaker 1:

adam sandler got a new movie coming out or is that? Fucking ai bullshit what?

Speaker 2:

what are you talking?

Speaker 1:

about it was a second happy gilmore. No, the simpsons he's doing a simpsons movie I don't know if it's fake, but it looked real really. Yeah, adam sandler, huh yeah I like adam sandler I don't know if somebody made that up, but it looked pretty good. They had all the characters that looked like they'd be good for that character and shit yeah dude, I think theo vahn's gonna replace joe rogan.

Speaker 2:

What do you think?

Speaker 1:

he's more interesting to watch I think so too.

Speaker 2:

I like him better and he just did it. He just did an interview with trump, bernie sanders um that's a smart dude, jesse murph.

Speaker 1:

Silly and dumb, you know, like just silly, and he just did an interview with Trump, bernie.

Speaker 2:

Sanders. That's a smart dude, jesse Murph, because he's silly and dumb, you know like just silly, but he's not a dumb dude. Yeah, jesse Murph, he's done a lot Like, he's done a lot dude. He's getting good, good interviews, although Joe Rogan has, I think, turned down interviewing Trump, I believe.

Speaker 1:

Joe Rogan is I don't think he's as good.

Speaker 2:

When I watch him.

Speaker 1:

I can't watch him as good as I can watch Theo Vaughn. That's yeah.

Speaker 2:

Theo Vaughn is just better to watch.

Speaker 1:

But he's got. But that's our style. You know what I'm saying. Joe Rogan got a lot of people watching him.

Speaker 2:

I get it, but I think Theo Vaughn's going to step up and take it. I get it, but I think Theo Vaughn's going to step up and take it. I don't think so.

Speaker 1:

I believe it's going to happen. I think he's better. I enjoy watching him better too. But I'm saying Joe Rogan got a big follower More followers, you think? Oh yeah, for sure It'll be a long time He'll retire before Vaughn goes higher than him, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. He's starting to really get some good ones, man, and it's, it's everywhere. It's like the it's all over the spectrums, everywhere because he's everywhere he's does stand up. He's well, joe rogan does too, but but vons is good.

Speaker 1:

I would never watch rogan stand up. I didn't.

Speaker 2:

I never liked any of them no, they never were all that good, no, but he doesn't have. See, I was looking at that, that what I think. I think that makes Theo Vaughn so good, what he does better than we do with interviews. We, when we have interviews, we we don't just hear their opinion in it, and you know what I mean. We kind of talk to him about everything and we talk a lot. I think that that's like he's good about that, Like Theo Vaughn's really good about just hearing what you have to say. You Vaughn's really good about just hearing what you have to say. You know what I'm saying. Like he's good about it and leading you. You know what I mean a little bit, but Joe Rogan's not.

Speaker 2:

Joe Rogan's gotten like fights with people that are in his like because he doesn't agree with them Like serious arguments and I think that that Theo Vaughn approach is like that's really what you're there, for that's like you're in their side. You're not you're not there to pick a side you're just there to hear.

Speaker 1:

They're like a bartender drinking with the crowd. You're there to not be part of the party yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, I think that that's something I'd like to try and see if I could do better at. I think when I do an interview, just kind of hear what somebody has to say, you know what I mean instead of like, because that's that's I. I I realized that when I looked at it, you know, like that's I mean not saying that he doesn't do that, but I've seen him turn on people too, like legit turn on people who wrote yeah, like just blow up but that's his style, that's his thing.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. That's the way he got where he's at, but I, I, I get that, but I, maybe, maybe that's his thing. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

That's the way he got where he's at, but I, I, I get that, but I maybe, maybe that's where you get where you're at.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who knows well a lot of it's fear factor you got m or?

Speaker 2:

uh, I honestly never heard of him until he had a podcast myself are you? Crazy. I swear to god, I never did, I never heard of you, never watched. Fear factor no, no, I didn't watch fear factor. Why would I watch fear factor?

Speaker 1:

because it was very popular at sun. I what is?

Speaker 2:

what was it?

Speaker 1:

you don't remember where they had people come in and like eat bugs and shit and oh yeah, I remember they had a show like that.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but he had hair and he was skinnier yeah, I never watched it, whatever, but I remember that was a. Yeah, they would have to eat bugs or do something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, slaying a thing of worms and all kinds of weird shit. Well, anyways, he was the host of that. Then I forget why Dana got him to do the.

Speaker 2:

MMA.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so then he started hosting MMA for a long time, and then he got his podcast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I never heard of him until he was on his podcast.

Speaker 1:

Deer Factory got followers from MMA and then he started a podcast. So yeah, he's. And then his standup, so yeah, he's got a lot of followers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I still think Theo Vaughn's going to take him over. I think he will. Okay, that's just my opinion. I just want to see. I'm curious Because I mean, theo Vaughn is making headway Like Theo Vaughn is.

Speaker 1:

That's like Dr Phil and Oprah he never went above her. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

No, because she would have had him killed. Oh shit, you never know what.

Speaker 1:

Joe Rogan might do.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm just saying. That, oh, you never know what joe rogan might do. I'm just saying that's kind of like that you know yeah, I don't know, is it?

Speaker 1:

though? Look, he wasn't as popular until he started going on the rogan show. For sure, 100 who dr phil?

Speaker 2:

no fine, oh, theo. No, that's what made him that. Yeah, joe rogan, but he was out he was out there before that.

Speaker 1:

He was on stage and he was singing oh yeah, no one. So yeah, he's a popular person, but that's what made him when he went on to joe rogan, just like dr phil when he went on and he's friends with.

Speaker 2:

He's friends with rogan and dana both. I think dana is actually the one that put together the trump interview actually he said probably I think that's what he said, but I mean I just honestly I'd like his style better.

Speaker 2:

I think it's funnier, I think it's easier to watch and he's and I think he's good at it actually like he's good at like having a serious conversation in a funny way you know what I mean way better than me. Like I I mean, but and then he's just like some of that shit that fucking cat williams things is still the funniest thing.

Speaker 1:

I don't that, dude? That's the funniest shit I ever.

Speaker 2:

Funny as you think, oh my god, dude, I fucking died laughing when I seen that like it was. And he plays it good like because you know, he knows what it is but it was just so goddamn funny. I got a christmas cat williams, a black nut cracker yeah, oh, that shit was funny as hell yeah, he was funny. He was like they were. They had him discounted.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think they should be it was two, I bought one no, he's funny as shit, but yeah, he did a good job with trump and he did a good job with bernie sanders and I believe that bernie sanders is a good person in his soul, like I think he's a good man, bernie Sanders, I really believe that.

Speaker 2:

But I don't like his policies because he wants a socialist society. And most people that want a socialist society want it for a good reason, like they really want it, because they believe that, you know, because the core thing is that everybody's equal, everybody gets the same. You know what I'm saying. But the problem is it builds a lazy society because why work if you're getting the same as the next guy?

Speaker 1:

And you know what?

Speaker 2:

I'm saying Like it doesn't work and it's never worked and it's always falling apart when they when they put it out there. But I mean that's why he wants it. You know what I mean? It's because you know he's a good dude. I think he's a good person in his soul. Honestly, like I don't think that just because he's wrong doesn't make him a bad person. You know what I'm saying. That's like even Obama. I never thought Obama was a bad person. I just didn't like his policy. He just like he never wanted like welfare reform or anything like that. He like thinks that it's, you know, like you're going against the welfare system and helping people and that's not the case. Welfare reform was to get people, you know, off of welfare so that they can earn their own living. It's not like you wanted to leave them in the street. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

like that's all the thing needs redone. That's, that's crazy. Actually, it's better now than when we was younger.

Speaker 2:

Everybody lived on that shit I don't know, because now see back, then it was different, like you either worked or you were on welfare when we were kids, and now it's like you work and you get all the benefits, like there's like people that are working and they're still like, still getting like the free housing or the discounted housing, they're still getting food stamps, they're still getting medical and things like that, and it.

Speaker 1:

I need food stamps.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of them that do it that way and I like that work at like Walmart or something, part time. And I see it here because we hire people and they're like they limit no, no, no, no, I can only work three days, not because they're lazy, but they'll lose their benefits if they work more than that. You know, like in the kitchen we've had people do that and you know, like the one kid that worked for us at one time, he had, you know, two kids. His wife had died, I don't, and I think in a car accident or something, and he's supporting two kids and this and that, but if he works more he don't have medical benefits. For me he can't give that up.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean, cause, and it's like it's really just helping these other companies that are. We're employing these people for less than what. You know what I mean. Like a Walmart or something, you're employing these people and not supplying them with benefits, and if you work them all part-time you don't have to supply them with benefits, but then they can go get free benefits. You know what I'm saying like. So I think it's worse in a way, I think because it wasn't that way when we were young.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't know it really wasn't led that way when we were young. When we were young, it was more like you were either on it or off it. You know what I mean. You weren't like.

Speaker 1:

In between? Yeah, you weren't in between.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you weren't, Because I remember my mom, like when she went, because my mom was on it, you know, and we lived in the projects and stuff. And I think back then, I think, if I remember right, I think, when we moved into projects, we actually got a check every month to live there, Because what we had to pay for rent, I think, was nothing, but then what we had to pay for utilities, I think was enough that they gave us money towards the utilities. So we actually got welfare plus a check towards utilities to live there, I think, if I remember right. And then she started working just part-time at the college and as soon as she did, you couldn't afford the place no more. You had to pay all the bills, everything. That was it, that was a wrap. So that's when she went to work at Lorraine Products. You know what I mean and that's just kind of how it was back then.

Speaker 2:

I think I don't think that there was a whole lot of this in between and that's a lot of these and, granted, a lot of them are single parents, single mothers or single fathers or whatever. That you know. I'm not saying they don't need it and it is a good way to keep a path off of welfare, where you're like, at least making productive members of society, helping them out. You know what I'm saying. I guess that's something I guess, but I think it's worse in that aspect is all I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

See, no, I might be totally wrong. You probably are Probably never. But anyways, I thought welfare back when it originally started was for people that did work and that they was in between jobs. I don't think it was made for a lifestyle.

Speaker 2:

No, it never should have been. No, it never was. But there's people that that's how it works.

Speaker 1:

I know, but I'm saying it wasn't originally made for that.

Speaker 2:

No, and people don't understand. Like when you get in, like the projects, these people like they raise their kids on welfare and their kids just get old enough to get welfare themselves and then they get their own apartment in the projects and then they just continue to and they start raising their kids on welfare. It happens, I've seen it, I know it happens.

Speaker 1:

I've watched it.

Speaker 2:

I mean I know, I still know a lot of people I grew up with in the projects. You know what I mean. Some of them are that I grew up with in a project, are in the projects right now. Still, you know what I mean and it's it's not saying it's it's a bad thing, but there's, there's gotta be like some sort. Like my mom and them. They started going to college.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I think they were all doing it because they there was like a whole thing where, like you're like a little bonus when you're yeah, if you did, it just right if you did it just right, like you could get enough, like you had to schedule the right amount of credits and and and stuff, you could get enough to get your college and get a nice little refund from all the money they gave you for the thing.

Speaker 1:

So I don't think there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2:

No, there isn't and, honestly, it was the best scam in the world because all of her friends that did that none of them are on welfare no more.

Speaker 1:

They all work, they all went to college and they all work.

Speaker 2:

And I mean at first it started as a scam, but then, once they started getting a little more educated and started, like you know, feeling a value and a worth, they just started doing their thing. You know what I mean and that's. I mean that's, I think, a huge come up for it or a huge way to do it. I mean, if you can just trick them in that way, you know, I mean it's not tricking but it is. You know what I'm saying that's giving the motivation.

Speaker 1:

That's all it is. You know what I'm saying? It's giving them motivation.

Speaker 2:

That's all it is. Yeah. Yeah, because a lot of people just feel like they can't do it. That's, I think, the biggest thing. People that are in that cycle of welfare, they just don't feel like they can do it. They just feel like this is it. Yeah, they don't want to rock the boat because the benefits are there. You do have a place to live, you do have medical, if something happens, heat in the winter. You do have heat in the winter. You do have. Yeah, I mean. So they don't want to rock the boat, they don't want to mess that up, but they're not dumb people. They know how to to navigate that system and get what they needed to get out of it. I wouldn wouldn't know how to do that. I mean, I'm sure if I had to I could figure it out. But I mean that's not like that's an easy task to navigate all that. I wouldn't think.

Speaker 1:

And the budgeting your money like that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Who budgets their money? You see them shopping carts on the first of the month. There ain't no budgeting going on. Well you know what I mean. Well, there ain't much to live on, so you got a budget. Nah, that's not how it works. See, you never lived in a project. We eat good the first two weeks and we got to go find some friend's house to go to the next two weeks.

Speaker 1:

We got the motherfucking welfare blocks. Don't even think we didn't. Big old welfare cheese man, I love that shit I did too.

Speaker 2:

It was so good. I like them canned, like that canned pork, and stuff too, like the canned beef canned pork. We'd make pasta leaders out of that. Oh my god, they were good, so good. Season them up.

Speaker 1:

No, they were delicious and then the grilled cheese with that cheese oh, that was hitting, but you know what's horrible, though.

Speaker 2:

The worst thing ever was that powdered milk. Did you ever have the powdered milk? No, oh yeah, that's what they give you Like it was powdered milk. You had to mix it in water. Oh, it was horrible. You probably got it.

Speaker 1:

You probably gave it away to somebody else. Oh, it was horrible.

Speaker 2:

It was horrible. We always a couple times. You want to go get a job. Telling you like this is bullshit two hours a week overtime and then you start working like construction, lumping shingles up the ladder, and all of a sudden you're going that powder milk wasn't that bad. I think I could do some powder milk yeah, we used to get that cheese.

Speaker 1:

What else did we used to get? It was like oh, the orange juice yeah, the orange juice was good.

Speaker 2:

The black and white cartons cheese and the black and white carton it was all good shit.

Speaker 1:

It was just generic boxes, that's all it was that cheese was banging. That cheese was the best cheese ever that they need to make that cheese and sell it where I want, I'd buy it it's probably at a deli same cheese, the big old block of cheese, the american I'd like to know which one it is, because it ain't never been the one I am. I ain't had that same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you make mac and cheese out of that shit. Oh my god, it was so, so good. Yeah, we used to love that shit, but I did. I like to pull pork. All that stuff too. I liked all of it. It didn't, none of it mattered. We used to get because shit, but I did, I liked the pulled pork and all that stuff too, I liked all of it. It didn't, none of it mattered, we used to get because we would go to Neighborhood House. Did you used to go to Neighborhood House or no? No, yeah, see, that was a projects thing, I think. The Neighborhood House, they'd make us lunches, but that's where all that stuff would come in at. They would bring it in on a truck to the neighborhood house and then that's where you'd go pick it up or disperse it or whatever. I don't know. I don't know if everybody picked it up there.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how it worked. We had it delivered.

Speaker 2:

It was delivered.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What? Yeah, it was delivered to your house? I think so. By what A crackhead down the street?

Speaker 1:

Maybe, but we got it I might be wrong.

Speaker 2:

I could have swore we got it delivered. No, my, like herman, my set, who was like my stepdad back then, he, that's what he would when the trucks would come in, he would go volunteer to unload the trucks. So you guys got the extra ones, didn't you? Oh for sure, 100. Yeah, we got a little extra, not, I mean not great good nothing crazy, but a little extra yeah, yeah, yeah, it was good.

Speaker 2:

And then my mom would go down to fligners and get like a case of chicken for like. Back then I forget what it was like because, like you say, budgeting for your money or whatever she'd get a case of chicken. You know, at the first of the month and we had chicken every dude I got so sick of chicken like I didn't want to see chicken again in my life.

Speaker 2:

We'd have everything chicken like fried chicken, chicken soup chicken, baked chicken, chicken. I was like I felt like forrest gump when he was, when uh he was talking about the shrimp.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's all we did. It was like god damn, man, but it was cheap. I mean she would. I can't remember. I wish I could remember what she paid for a case of chicken, but it was cheap as shit. I don't think she's on right now. She's on a weird schedule where she works nights now, so it doesn't like she's probably sleeping because she works third shift, so she gets, I think she gets up and wakes up and goes to work. You know what I mean? I think I don't know. That's a stupid system. I don't like working. Did you ever work third shift?

Speaker 2:

yeah, briefly, I didn't like this shit that's horrible right like waiting all day to go to work oh, and then you when the light comes back out that's horrible, that waiting to go to work, like I get up in the morning and then, like I like to take my time to get up and go, but I couldn't imagine like that, doing that all the time. I've done, done it, but I hate it.

Speaker 1:

When I was at Terminal we had to go in at 3. Oh yeah, I remember that yeah, and then when you go in and you're in the dark until about 6, and our sun comes up and you think you'd get a second wind. Oh, it made it worse. I'd be like oh shit, yeah, I didn't like that.

Speaker 2:

I mean the third shift's always. The only thing is, we took advantage usually on third shift jobs, oh yeah, not a place to take a nap. Not really that so much. But like leave early and stuff Like there's nobody there catching us type stuff.

Speaker 1:

Now, nowadays, cameras everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Well, like Chris, when I worked for Chris it was always you got paid eight for seven. That was usually and a lot of people, I think, still do that with the Carpenters Union seven for eight. Because I did that actually not too long ago when I worked at the hospital, like maybe 10 years ago, I worked at St John West Shore. We had to do it all at night and we were getting seven for eight and actually we were getting some out at night. So we were getting four for eight. You know what? We were getting some out nights. We were getting four for eight.

Speaker 2:

You know, I mean we were getting eight for four hours because there we were tearing down ceilings and then they'd have to replace whatever underneath. Then we had to put the ceiling back up. So they would only want us to do what we could put back up that night. You know what I'm saying. And so a lot of times we were literally like few hours only and we're still getting paid for our eight, which was kind of cool. So there was that part of it that was pretty neat, but most of the time I hated it.

Speaker 1:

I absolutely hated it. Remember the garbage bin used to be running. Remember that shit.

Speaker 2:

No, what are you talking?

Speaker 1:

about They'd have a route and they'd have to. If they did their route, they got paid for their eight. So if they, done it in four they got it.

Speaker 2:

You know, remember, they used to run. You don't remember that shit.

Speaker 1:

I never paid no attention to garbage. Man, oh man, they'd run. They'd be throwing that shit running bag bust. They'd be all pissed off grabbing that shit, throwing in the truck, sweeping it up real fast or just be running because they got paid for when. If they got it done in three hours, they got paid for it is that? Yeah, I don't think they do it now like that, but they used to be running.

Speaker 2:

My buddy, jason, used to work on that truck Jason Brown the taper. He was here last night, actually. That's how. That's how he got into taping. As they fricking went to those automated and he got lost his job, he had to start doing something else. That was a good job back then too, right.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Carpenters used to make good money.

Speaker 2:

Do they still or no?

Speaker 1:

I think they make good money, but not like they used to.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think that's true with everybody, it's true with the carpenters, everybody. I mean, like I said, wages just aren't keeping up.

Speaker 1:

Well, you got one guy in a truck instead of three. That's why they would be running getting that shit done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but they were, they were I mean you had to put everything in by hand anyway yeah, anything too. They did not anything like you could put a couch back then like just throw a couch once a week or something you can yeah, once a week you take your trash out. No, once a month.

Speaker 1:

I mean no, it's once not lorraine lorraine, you can put yeah, once a week. You can take your trash out once a month. No, once a month, I mean no, it's once a week, not Lorraine Lorraine. You can put it out every day, I don't mind.

Speaker 2:

You can.

Speaker 1:

Really, I think we pay more. I'm not sure. Really, ours is once a month.

Speaker 2:

They do bulk pickup once a month and it's Like they'll do X amount of extra garbage bags or one big item or something, but I think Lorraine is unlimited.

Speaker 1:

You put it out there.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that's true. Okay, Because they went to the automated right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but they go by and then the automated tells the other ones if there's a big thing at a certain house and then the other truck comes with a couple guys and they just throw it all in there, huh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ours is once a month only, and everybody I know is once a month. I've never talked to anybody in Lorain about it, though, and when I was in Lorain we didn't have that. When I was in Lorain we had. Yeah, once a month we had the weekly normal garbage pickup you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Do you ever used to go garbage picking or no? No, you never did that, never. My mom used to do that shit. I used to go with her. We'd go gold mining and go find all kinds of good shit.

Speaker 1:

Listen, my friends, he used to be a garbage man. Him and his brother, and him and his son was. He'd take the scrap metal and he'd set it behind the truck somewhere and then when he got off of work he'd throw it in his car and go to the scrap yard. So he was riding with his kid his kid was probably 7 years old and he goes Dad, look copper.

Speaker 2:

And he goes that's my boy no, I, my mom, would furnish their whole house. People would come over and be like man. Your mom got a nice ass apartment.

Speaker 1:

It's nice as hell. I got confirmation. Yes, you can't put bulk up every week.

Speaker 2:

You did. You got that from someone, yeah, really Every week. Well, that's different. That's better than what. That is my house, my house, we can't do that. No, yeah, we in with your. See, that's what I'm saying. Ours is different. No, it's not. We pay so many freaking bills. It's, it's. Our water bill now has become four different bills. There's water, sanitation, sewer, runoff, and now there's a new one for septic. Because I have a septic, I have to pay another one to the health department yearly. Wow, so that's four different bills that all have to be, and I have to pay it here too. And I don't know why I don't have a septic here, unless it's because of the grease trap. Maybe I don't know, or is it everybody getting that bill?

Speaker 1:

I don't know hey, what about that? Them companies that are running around like, well, you're electric, they sign you up for that electric bullshit and then you, you pay that company to pay your. You know what I mean I don't understand that either I'm like how the fuck they make money. They say they're saving you money. I'm like I refuse to take.

Speaker 2:

I'm like hell, no, get out of here well, when I I signed up with them at one time and my bill got so outrageous, I was like this is crazy, this is. And then when I called ohio edison, they said, well, if you wouldn't have kept us as a server, if you would have kept us as a server, you would have saved X amount. And I'm like what the hell? So then now I've said, okay, I don't want to pick the server. You know what I mean? Like I opt out of it every time. Then they're telling me I have to pick somebody. Like you have to pick somebody. And it's like what do you mean? You have to. I thought before you yelled at me, but like if I wouldn't have picked somebody? It's just, I don't understand that whole bullshit. I don't even think it should be legal.

Speaker 1:

Look, they're telling me because of the gas line, because I'm the homeowner, they're like you got to pay. Well, you ain't got to you, but you could opt to pay this extra insurance for your gas line from your house to the street. And I'm like for what? And I'm like for what, and I'm like if it goes out, I have to just pay to get it fixed. You know what I'm saying? Why am I going to pay this insurance? I'm like I'll dig that shit out, my damn soul, that's how they are.

Speaker 1:

Have a plumber come hook it up. That's all I'm like. No, I ain't doing that shit, and it's literally probably 25 feet from the street.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm like yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'll hand dig that shit. Yeah, I'm not paying that extra. And they keep sending me like oh, your last chance, I've had 10 last chances.

Speaker 2:

This is your last chance to get in.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, yeah, you know what, fuck you.

Speaker 2:

Uh-uh. No, yeah, the bills are outrageous and that's how everybody's making their money nowadays.

Speaker 1:

It seems like on fees and subscriptions and shit, some bullshit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's absolutely insane. But that whole the whole garbage picking thing. Back to the garbage picking thing my mom people would think that our house was hooked up Like it was nice as hell. They'd be like man, this is like decorated Dude, it was all from the garbage. Everything she picked, garbage picked, everything, everything in our house. I mean every last thing. And it was so bad. And I mean we were poor that we didn't have the money. It was so bad. People would come over and be like I used to have one, like that I would just in my head be laughing.

Speaker 2:

That's it. It was probably that one. Did I have a scratch right here.

Speaker 1:

Is that your initials on the side?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, legit dude, that's how bad it was.

Speaker 1:

We'd get stuff from other people, but yeah, we wouldn't go.

Speaker 2:

No, we would literally go on a run. It was like on Monday night, in a nice neighborhood or something, my mom would have to go borrow my grandpa's car or whatever. We'd go look for stuff, we'd go and grab some shit up.

Speaker 1:

The only thing I got from the garbage is like a couple old lawnmowers or something that I was like oh, I need that part.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I did that. I bought one or I grabbed one from the garbage across the street, like literally the day I moved into the house on Willow. The day I moved in I didn't have a mower and Joe, my grandma's boyfriend, brought us over a mower to cut the grass the first day we were in there. And I look across the street and there was one sitting over there and I went dude, I used that mower forever. It actually just got run over not too long ago. I used that thing. It was like a Toro. There was nothing wrong with it. He had put too much oil in it. You know what I mean. I literally just took the oil out and ran it. There was nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Speaker 1:

That's what was wrong with that last bike. I had Remember that. Yeah, I was like why is all this oil all over? Opened up the oil thing and it was all the way to the top. I said who's the idiot? So I just got a turkey baster, pulled some of that oil out, got it right, cleaned it up, changed the plugs. It ran perfect.

Speaker 2:

That's what I did, and that Toro lasted me forever. I mean, it was a Toro, but it wasn't like self-propelled. But it was still a good-ass mower. That thing worked forever.

Speaker 1:

I know people that swear by them. Things like the ones with no propel, just basic yeah just push it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because the propels sometimes are a pain in the ass.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the belts break.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then they just like cables, like the one I got now that DeWalt one I just got as a rear wheel drive and it just doesn't. You don't feel right? No, I like. The one I had was front wheel, which is kind of nice. You could push it up Like you could lift up on the back and it would just drag you there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and kick it to the side.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just don't like it and I don't care for it too much. Especially, my yard's all fucked up Like it needs. Like's almost there now no, but it needs to get fine too. I want to get it done this fall, though I don't want I want to fall, get it done this fall and then seed it. You have it ready so that next spring it's done looking good and fresh. You know what I'm saying. And they say that that lawn I'd say that's the best time to seed your lawn is in the fall. That's what everybody says. Everybody I've ever talked to always says the fall is the best time to seed your lawn. I don't know why. Nobody's ever gave me the science behind it or anything. Just it is.

Speaker 2:

Just take their word for it well maybe you know, maybe I should just do that. Just take their word for it, maybe you should. Yeah, so jelly roll, this weekend we did, or this week on wednesday. That was pretty sweet. Jelly roll, oliver anthony oh yeah, we went out there, amanda, wouldn't let me take the fucking boat it was too choppy yeah, tuesday was like some five footers, so that made sense.

Speaker 2:

I seen it. Yeah, it was rough. But then tuesday night I'm like, yeah, it's pretty calm. We go down there and look and she's like, yeah, I still don't think that'd be nice, right, I don't want to do it. So I'm like, yeah, it's pretty calm. We go down there and look and she's like, yeah, I still don't think that'd be nice, right, I don't want to do it. So I'm like, okay, fine, you know.

Speaker 2:

And then the next one I did was was uh, wednesday morning I went down. We went down. I had to drive down to the beach and look and see, okay, does it look okay or does it not look okay? She's like, no, it don't look okay. But I'm looking and it's like, I don't know, I think it's fine, I think we can make it, it's no big deal. She didn't want to do it. So then I'm like forget it, I'm not going. Then I mean, we went drinking down at Rudy's and then we went back to the boat, drank and we had a good time. It was fun. But the final thing she just decides well, the ferry's not going to—they're going to run everybody after the concert. So I'm like fuck it. Okay, we already got the tickets. You know what I? I mean? I spent like 300 bucks each or something for the ticket, so we end up taking the ferry over there. So I've been to put in bay three times this year not once with the boat, yet every time because amanda gets nervous about taking the boat.

Speaker 2:

She's too nervous about that thing, and then it stresses me out even more because she's nervous about it. She gets nervous, gets me nervous, not nervous, but gets me I don't know. I don't know what it does, but fucking it's too much with the, with her in the boat.

Speaker 1:

How many times you had to boat out this year.

Speaker 2:

Three times, twice, three times, something like that, two or three times.

Speaker 1:

Damn, two or three times Damn. I don't know nothing about boats, but you're going to have to show me so I can enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

How about you?

Speaker 1:

got this nice boat sitting here all fucking winter or summer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know it's got to go, it's not got to go, but I got to get it out more.

Speaker 1:

I love it, dude. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

There's nothing better. I like going to the islands with it and shit.

Speaker 1:

It's fun, it's, it's but it's insured pretty good right yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's sure hey, um, can you put that out? That picture I just sent you I can.

Speaker 2:

I gotta have to email it to myself. I can email it.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god, that shit was so funny so what is that a picture of?

Speaker 2:

exactly, okay, look uh, uh.

Speaker 1:

What day was that, I don't know, but anyways, I get sent on a um a job, so I go. This is how mexicans get shit done, though that sounded racist, just so, just so you know why?

Speaker 1:

because I complimented on how they get stuff done. Anyways, I was like man, just the way you would do it is different from the way they did it, but they got it done. That's what I'm saying. They'll still get it done. So we go, I go to the job. They sent me to this job. It's 10 yards on the lake, off the cliff, off the ch shoot into a homemade ramp.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean Look?

Speaker 1:

at the picture.

Speaker 2:

No, but I'm saying no, but I mean people are listening. Now I'm not watching the picture.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm explaining it while you put the picture up.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to. It's going to take me a minute to get it up there, but I will.

Speaker 1:

So, anyways, the guy backs me up to the cliff, it says wet it up, it hits this chute, but the way I'm shooting it it's going before the chute and going behind it. So then they was like speed it up. So I was like, okay, man, that shit was splattering all over them, but they got it done. There's other ways to do. It is all I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm looking at the picture now and so are they if they're looking. But okay, so you. Basically I don't get it. So how long is your shoot? Right there it's like 12.

Speaker 1:

No, it's more than that it's like 15 feet maybe, so it's 15 feet down the hill.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no the shoot is 15 feet that's what I'm saying going down the hill, going down, yeah, going down the hill, and then that looks like it's dropping eight feet from there. 10 feet, it's more like 15.

Speaker 1:

Is it.

Speaker 2:

It looks like less, but okay, and then that's just going on to A homemade ramp, and then they're pulling it down.

Speaker 1:

Pulling it down to where they need it. But they got it done, I'm telling you?

Speaker 2:

That whole picture just looks like an OSHA violation.

Speaker 1:

No, that's how you do it.

Speaker 2:

It just looks like an.

Speaker 1:

OSHA violation. Yeah, I didn't feel comfortable doing it, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm just looking at it, I'm trying to figure out what they're pouring there. So they're making like a patio out there or a dock, kind of like a break wall, kind of like a dock kind of thing. Okay, I see it. Now I'm starting to see it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, blow it up on your phone, you'll see it better.

Speaker 2:

I'm blowing it up on here. Yeah, I'm blowing it up and looking at it right now. So how thick is this pour? It looks like it's like 12 inches thick. Oh, it's probably more than that.

Speaker 1:

Oh really, yeah, I mean jesus. So how many trucks had to do this?

Speaker 2:

mine. Just that was 10 yards. It's only 10 yards. What that? What about the other spot? They're going to do more, though right there's looks like there's more there to do.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. But anyways, that was the outside edge. Here's the thing. Here's the issue I have with this whole thing. If you see that board right there where the guys are standing on outside of that board yeah, that is so dangerous. Yeah, because if it pushes, out Right, if it just blows out on them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it doesn't look like they have anything supporting it or forming it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I was like wow, but yeah, I dumped it off.

Speaker 2:

What's that pipe that's there, that that's there that's just a drain line for something, but it was. I was way above, way over that yeah, that's wild, yeah, what's? This hole right there. That whole thing just does not look good. There's nothing good going on in this photo listen, all I did was bring the concrete.

Speaker 1:

That's it. That ain't got nothing to do with me they, they they holy shit yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 2:

They're just doing it with the ramp on. So how? How much of that ramp is there? Like eight feet, nine feet? Uh, yeah something like that. Yeah, I kind of see it here. You can't really tell, right, because there's concrete because there's concrete on it. But if you look to the left of that pipe, right there where I'm pointing with my pointer, you can see like the, the sidewall, like they must like put plywood with a 2x6 on the side of it, right, is that what?

Speaker 1:

it is I don't know man. I thought this shit was so crazy. But look at the splatter to the left.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, everywhere, oh my God, Everywhere.

Speaker 1:

Look, it's like 16, 17 feet up splattering down on this board and it's just splattering all over these guys and they're just looking like, yeah, keep it going.

Speaker 2:

Good job, I'm like okay, here it comes I was like what the fuck? That's some funny shit oh, my god, and I'm trying to sneak the picture where they don't see me, you know I'm like look at this shit here people don't believe me, I'm like yeah, this is how my everyday life is this is this is life, and in a day of guido yeah, I'm like people don't believe this shit.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, yeah, off a cliff, down, it's just shoot barely splatters all over the fucking place.

Speaker 2:

Everywhere. Dude, it's everywhere. It looks like it's out like 12, 14.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, easy, and then it's crazy and they're just thumbing up me and stuff good job there, buddy.

Speaker 2:

I'm like oh shit oh my god, how so. How would you normally think you would do that with, like what?

Speaker 1:

you said something before they got this thing it's called an alpha elephant trunk and you hook it on the end, at the very end of your chute and it's a big funnel, it's got a chain on it. And you hook it on the end, at the very end of your chute and it's a big funnel, it's got a chain on it and you put it on the end of the chute and then it's got a long tube you know it's rubber or whatever and then it slides down there and you can control it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Kind of like those dumpsters right when you do dumpsters off the fiber or something like that, similar like that, similar like that, but it's this big.

Speaker 2:

Like Macaulay Culkin went down in the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But it's this big and it's like a rubber kind of material and when it slides down you can control it. You can kind of move it where you want it.

Speaker 2:

How do you clean that thing out? Just?

Speaker 1:

rinse it down with a hose.

Speaker 2:

And that's it it comes right out.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like, and most companies, like my company or Terminal or anybody, they got chutes you can rent, like they'll send it to the job with you and then you basically you're renting it to them for cheap, whatever, yeah right, they just want to sell the concrete. Right, yeah, this is going to make it easier for you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Just let it splatter all over the place.

Speaker 2:

Maybe they don't know about the trunk. I mean they don't. Maybe they don't know.

Speaker 1:

No, I get that, but they're still going to get it done is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, they're going to. I mean, but do these guys, do you ever pour for them any other work time?

Speaker 1:

I've never poured for them.

Speaker 2:

They might not even be concrete guys. You know what I mean. They might not know nothing about it.

Speaker 1:

No, because the finish work, that scene they was doing, it was doing a good job oh really yeah.

Speaker 2:

So they're concrete guys.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know that's funny yeah, it was, it was. I was really like I don't know if you want to say impressed or uh in shock, or what shock, impressed.

Speaker 2:

Whatever it is, I was that I was like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

and I'm like people. When I say this shit, they're like no, I'm like this shit. Splattered the fuck everywhere. There's probably fish eating rocks. I'm like what the hell?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I mean it got the job done, that's all that matters yeah, yeah, I'd like to see the finished product, but it seems like an awful lot of guys there, though for that little, for 10 yards. That's like twice the amount of guys we had in my driveway for 30 yards but I I just did not like that.

Speaker 1:

See how they're standing on the outside of that board.

Speaker 2:

I'm like yeah, if it pushes, I get it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was like man, that's like being in one of them holes, you know. Then you got the sidewalls to hold you. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

yeah, but there's not something behind them. So it's not like that dangerous, like you know what I'm saying. Like in the hole, if it collapses, you're, you're trapped, that one he would be thrown into the lake or something less dangerous, but it looks dangerous to me yeah, it's probably. Well, I don't know why there's no shoring there. I don't see nothing. I don't see a whaler on it, nothing. It's just like a piece of plywood just sticking there yeah, that thing blows out and them guys.

Speaker 2:

They're under the board with concrete on top of them yeah yeah, I don't like it, but whatever that's their shit, but he might have been in the lake if it blew out right right, you're fishing.

Speaker 1:

I think that would have been safer to be in the lake than to land, like on that pier or whatever when the guy told me back up and I'm setting up and stuff and I'm looking like what am I doing here? Like where's the the trunk? You know what? I'm saying I'll just we're gonna shoot it in that shoot and it's gonna slide down to where we need it.

Speaker 2:

I said okay that's big money, man, if you do those that freaking that one guy, that's all he does. The one that anthony used to go to that head. Did you ever go to that party, that fourth of July party that he used to have? It was in Avon Lake, anthony's I think Beth was friends with them or something. Somehow Beth knew him or maybe was even related, I'm not sure. But uh, anthony always helped him with it. But it was on night, like I kind of remember. I think it was like the third of July.

Speaker 2:

He would do this huge party. That's what he did for a living was built, break walls and stuff. But he's got like a his own marina, probably like a 15 slip marina in his backyard. And then he's got like his cliff is like done up, like there's like three different layers to it. He'd have a stage and food. He'd do this open to the public party dude, anybody was welcome. He'd have three or four pigs on a spit like live music, everything for free, no, no charge for anything. He'd have put off like probably a 10, 15 000 firework show. It was. It was awesome. I went I went only twice and I I absolutely loved it and I wanted to go back and then I heard that he doesn't do it no more because he was having people who were starting to learn about it and he was starting to get riff-raff coming.

Speaker 1:

Right right, you know who did. That too was Russ that owned Tuffy's. Tuffy's Like the auto place he used to have nice parties over there and some people came and just started taking the, the beers and shit yeah, that's the kind of shit he had going on like, just so yeah, I mean he had it open for everybody that's how this guy was.

Speaker 2:

It was completely open in the public.

Speaker 1:

Anybody could come in stupid and he was like man, I ain't doing this, no more.

Speaker 2:

I was like that's fucked up because he, he did it for years yeah, I think I was wondering if he got, like, his money from politicians, this guy, because there was always like people running for something there you know what I'm saying like. So I wondered if that was like part of what it was. Or maybe he was doing it so that maybe he was doing it as a favor to somebody he wanted to get into office too. Maybe I don't know. You know what I mean, but he made a lot of money, dude, and that's all that guy did was like those, break walls and building. That's big money, man, and that stuff. I mean, it costs big money too to have that equipment, though, but not if you do it like this Charge big money and get a sheet of plywood and about five Mexicans, six Mexicans we could get rich.

Speaker 2:

You should have got their number. Nope, man, I'll tell you what man, like I said, they got it done, it's all that matters. It's done, that's all that matters. Oh my god, so that our uh bert was bitching that we're not, we're too political on here, we're not saying nothing, funny, no more. And and I go like, what are you talking about? So he's talking about Tia. That one, when we did with Tia because it's all political or whatever I go, you know better than half of that fucking show was about ugly strippers and I thought that was funny. I mean, that's better than half the show goes to ugly strippers. So we, I think that's a well balanced yeah, that was built balanced.

Speaker 1:

I thought it was well balanced.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I don't know if it was, I thought so anyways, and I you know but with the elections biased, yeah, they're all great, all our shows all of them are the best, yeah, every every one of them's the best.

Speaker 1:

How's that possible, though?

Speaker 2:

but you know what's cool though, one thing that's cool about burt he's a Rover's morning glory guy, so he listens to Rover every day, except Mondays. On Mondays he listens to Madhouse in the morning. You know what I mean. So that's kind of a big compliment, honestly, because I mean Rover's one of the best at what he does, although I don't think his show. When I put it on anymore it's not like it used to be. I used to love that show. I'd watch it, listen to it every morning, but I put it on now and it just doesn't catch my attention. No more. Half the time Rover's not even in studio, he's working it from home.

Speaker 1:

I think ours could be a lot better. We just got to. I got to put more time into it.

Speaker 2:

I do too. I mean we both could do it. But I think, like I said, with the interviews, I think we got to do, we got to end, we got to try and be more of a Theo Vaughn with it, not like the funny part of it, but like letting them say what they have to say and just have no opinion about it. I mean you don't have to have 100% of it, theo Vaughn doesn't. Theo Vaughn does that interview dude. You couldn't tell me if he was supporting trump or not, but he's had bernie on there. You didn't know if he was supporting socialism or not. You just, I mean he's just doing his show. I mean that's really your job is just to do the show.

Speaker 1:

It's not we didn't get paid for this, ain't our job, and we did get paid for a little bit goes back into it.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, but we're at. Did you want to know where we're at right now?

Speaker 1:

What $30?.

Speaker 2:

It's better than that. Yeah, it's actually better than that. I was shocked.

Speaker 1:

I hadn't looked at it in like six months probably four months, but listen, at this point it's going to take you about 20 years to pay for this equipment. Oh, and then some and then some.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, it was, I just seen, I just looked at it. I just seen, I just looked at it. I was shocked that it was there. I was like, huh, I should use that to do something with it, because it's starting to get a little bit better. You know what I mean. So I was wondering what we could do with it, to like for something for the show or whatever. You know what I mean. And uh, let me tell you where it's at now. We've been doing it almost what? Almost two years a year and eight months right a year and eight months, right A year and eight months, you got enough to buy one monitor.

Speaker 1:

No, not that much.

Speaker 2:

No, hold on, I'm going to tell you, hold on, here it goes. There it is 411.57. That's pretty good. Actually, that's the lights. I think that's more than I. That's more than I would have thought it was going to be. I was still thinking it was going to be like under 200. So I was shocked that the ads and stuff that went through got it up that high.

Speaker 1:

I was shocked how many of the lights did you buy with that?

Speaker 2:

those lights were cheap. I didn't nothing. It's just so much of it. It costs that much. But yeah, I bet you there's 10 grand in here right now in the studio, like 10 somewhere around there. That's a lot of fucking money for something we're just playing with. But then I think about it and it's like there's people that, like their hobby is like hot rods and they'll put 35 grand into a car that's worth 12. You know what I mean, so I don't feel that bad about it.

Speaker 1:

Plus, you like to hear yourself talk?

Speaker 2:

Nah, not so much.

Speaker 1:

I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2:

I do like to. I do like to like try and figure out what we could do better with stuff. You know what I mean. But I don't think if I don't know how we go about that. Really it takes time. You just got to put time into it. That's what it takes. You got to really think about everything as you're going to do it what you're going to put out there, how you're going to put it out there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we don't even. We do not sit around and come up with a game plan for the next week.

Speaker 2:

No, we come, I put notes. In fact, I'll tell you what. In fact, I'll tell you what. This is as far as I got with my notes this week, and actually it was a serious story that I was going to bring up and it was about that Taco Bell. Did you hear about that Taco Bell Dude in Stowe, this freaking some 25-year-old girl just graduated Cleveland State. You know what I mean? Is that Taco Bell? Some asshole she don't even know, has no clue who this fucking guy is. Her name was Megan Kelman. This is the only thing that got on my notes, by the way, and we didn't even talk about it yet.

Speaker 1:

We'll end it on this?

Speaker 2:

I guess so. So she's 25 years old, just graduated, cleveland state, she's in Taco Bell and this guy, jason Williams, just rams into her fucking car at the drive-thru. I don't know why. She doesn't have no connection with him, she doesn't know who the guy is, nothing. She tells the through the speakerphone. She tells him to call 911 or whatever and dude's like, gets out, starts getting irate and fucking kills her, shoots her dead and then fucking puts a gun under his chin and kills himself right in the drive-thru in Stoke.

Speaker 1:

Wow yeah. I didn't hear nothing about it.

Speaker 2:

You haven't heard about that? Oh, it's fucking crazy. And they're saying that Jason Williams, like his gun that he had is illegal because he was just pulled over like drunk and they got body cam footage of him like drunk and he had at that time stolen guns on him that weren't even like he stole them, like they were guns he had stolen, you know what I mean. And he was out on probation or not probation bond, awaiting court for that. When he rams her and then just gets out and fucking kills her, doesn't know her nothing about her 25 years old dude, how scary is that? To think you're in a Taco Bell drive-thru. That could be the outcome. You just went to Taco Bell, that's all you did. Just went to Taco Bell. How many times have you been to Taco Bell?

Speaker 2:

Not many no, but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Or.

Speaker 2:

McDonald's or Burger King, whatever. You're just in a freaking drive-thru ordering food. Like why the hell would that end in me getting shot? I mean that doesn't make any sense. And in Stowe you're not even in East Cleveland, you know what I mean. Like you're not in a crime-ridden neighborhood. You know what I'm saying. Like it just random as fuck yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy. No, I didn't hear nothing about it Cause I've been. I've been working a lot this week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I seen that. That was disturbing. I was like that's fucking insane. You know what I mean. And there's all kinds of reports, people that like watched it. There was other people in the drive-thru like seen it, like seen what happened right in front of them. Like the one that called 911 is like yeah, he's here. They said did the shooter leave? He goes. No, I just said he killed himself. He's laying there dead. Like it's crazy dude, it's bizarre. I mean you get it when it's like I don't even say I don't want to say I get it because I don't ever get it, but like a girlfriend or you know somebody went to something. There's no connection, none, that's what makes it scary. There's no connection, that's scary shit. You know what I mean? That's fuck that. But yeah, that was the only thing I got in my notes and we didn't even do any of that that was nothing even talked about.

Speaker 1:

About that you got in your notes that was it.

Speaker 2:

That's all I had put in that's what I was saying.

Speaker 1:

We don't. We don't come in here like prepared and I think it's pretty good, but we do need to no, we could put in the time and effort we could make it like better for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you could definitely like step up the game, you know? No, I mean, I'm saying you, I mean us, both of us could step up the game, you more for sure. You definitely give very little when it comes to it I mean you never come in with like anything prepared I just showed you a picture.

Speaker 1:

What are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

yeah, you sent it to me in the show. I had to figure out how to email it to myself to get it on screen.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you're the one directing this shit.

Speaker 2:

But that would be nice. That would help if we had like a if, if, but I don't, nobody's volunteered for it, but if there's, anybody would want to do that. Like like, come in and engineer and set up outside and like. Oh that would be fucking awesome. That would change everything.

Speaker 1:

We could really do something different than and we could split that 400, the 400. What is that? How many years?

Speaker 2:

a year and like eight months, I think you're in eight months divided by one.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to think it might be two years now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's close to you? I think it might be. I'd have to go back and look at when we did our first episode. But I mean we've been, I, on video a year now, almost right, I don't know about that. I don't know when we went on video. I can't remember. I mean at first we were doing it like with those webcams up here side by side and stuff. It might have been a year now, it might be, it might be close to that all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's wrap this one up let's do it, let's wrap it up, and then we said it at the beginning of the show. But please go subscribe to youtube, tick tock, follow us and then share it with your friends so that they'll come visit us too and watch the show we're getting out of here. Peace.

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