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Justice Jumble and Election Entanglements: Tyson's Ring Return, Women's Boxing Battles, and Prince's Pop Memories

James Tucker & Santiago Lopez Season 2 Episode 53

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What happens when the complexities of justice meet the world of politics and entertainment? Join us as JD Tomlinson, a passionate advocate for the wrongfully accused, takes us through the twists and turns of a high-profile case in Lorain County. Our conversation unravels the unexpected media spotlight on our podcast after Joe Rogan's mention of similar themes, hinting that he might just be tuning in. JD shares the moral dilemmas faced in legal victories, while we also explore the murky waters of election interference and political intricacies that entangle reputations.

Amidst the serious discourse, we find ourselves amidst the glitz of the boxing ring, with Mike Tyson and Jake Paul's antics providing a spectacle that is both entertaining and controversial. From staged slaps to unexpected wardrobe malfunctions, Tyson's return to the ring offers a mix of admiration and skepticism. The undercard fights, featuring Barrios vs. Ramos and Taylor vs. Serrano, deliver genuine excitement despite some questionable judging decisions. We also touch on the struggles of female athletes in sports, highlighting financial disparities and the quest for fairness.

As the episode rounds out, we reflect on the simple joys of family traditions and consider future career paths for our guests and friends. Whether it’s pondering a career with the Innocence Project or drawing parallels between the past and present in gaming culture, there's no shortage of lively discussions. From debating tax codes to reminiscing about Prince's iconic legacy, this episode is a vibrant tapestry of challenging conversations, humorous interludes, and nostalgic memories.

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Speaker 1:

we're number one. Jimmy has been a cheap ass. You know I'm like damn. You heard it here first. You know they say people that cuss are more honest. So I'm honest, motherfucker, put the fish away. Reggie, it don't even hurt to give birth anymore, not for me nothing to it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's do it. Come on, I'm I'm ready. I'm ready, I want to do it I got what I'm right now. You want to give me a geek man. House bar talks, baby man. This is a bunch of shit. If you ask me, that doesn't make no sense. Morning, that was weak. Morning that was weak. That was weak as shit. What was that about? At least we got a morning out of you. You got the volume on over there oh, probably the volume's on. At least we got it more than hot here.

Speaker 1:

See how delayed we are now. Who knows how delayed we are All right, there's the delay, there it goes.

Speaker 2:

So this week it was pretty wild. All of a sudden my phone starts blowing up that they're talking about Tomlinson on Rogan. Yeah, you know this guy, Justin.

Speaker 1:

You think Rogan's copying off of us.

Speaker 2:

I mean it seems that way a little bit right, yeah, I mean we had it on here first. Right yeah, at least a week, so clearly Joe Rogan's listening to our podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we said that before, so clearly Joe.

Speaker 2:

Rogan's listening to our podcast. Yeah, we've said that before. Well, you know, the thing is is what? I think? That, if I'm looking at it right, I think because that Justin is, he's an advocate for people that are innocent. And it's wild because one of the things they talk about at the beginning of the episode on Rogan is, like one of the guests that they got out and was on Joe Rogan experience then turned around and killed somebody. They caught him, like he had his head cut off and shit like crazy shit.

Speaker 2:

This like about a half hour he starts talking about a case here in Lorain County that basically he feels that that, uh, jd can get them off on or get it a sponged or look into it or whatever the case may be. But he said, you know it looks like cause he's, you know he lost the election. I mean, I don't think the incoming guy would be willing to do that. So I think that, like he went on there with the explicit you know thought that if I say it, I'm going to get Tomlinson's attention and he's going to have to return my call because Tomlinson wasn't returning his call. That was what he said on there, he wasn't. So I think that's what he was doing was basically trying to grab his attention. I think that seems that way. You know what I mean. And it certainly worked, because everybody's like going whoa JD's on. I mean, my phone blew up. Jd actually reached out to him like call the dude, what are you doing, dude, what are you doing? And it's wild because we had just had JD on here last week, right before the election, the Monday before the election. So we had him on here and he claimed he was.

Speaker 2:

You know, we were talking about all the different projects that he's already got people off on, you know, and Nancy Smith being one of them, which that's his big one. That's the one that really, you know, he's thrived to get off. You know, more than anything. That was that was the. Now you said you, nancy Smith, is your uncle's sister-in-law. Yeah, really, that's pretty wild. So you see her at parties and stuff. No, I never met her at parties and stuff, no, no, I never met her. Oh, really, yeah, that's a crazy story. You know, when he was telling us the story about it and it seems like it's, I mean, the right thing happened. They're off. You know what I mean. They're not, they're out now, but you can't get their time. That's a lot of time and it's prime time in your life and everything.

Speaker 2:

Well, there's a similar case going on now that he was talking about on a Rogan experience, where basically they put out a reward, essentially and uh, the dad come in and tried to get the reward by telling them stuff they said was already in the newspaper, yes. Then he shows up the next day with his son. His son tries to tell him stuff that was already in the newspaper they sent him packing. Then he shows up a third day and says the dude told him he did it, and then they arrest these dudes and all these guys went to jail. This guy came in three times with you know what I mean? It just doesn't add up.

Speaker 2:

Trying to get a couple grand, could you imagine, like you want a couple grand, like you put four people in prison over it, like for the rest of their life, like, yeah, fuck it, I need my two grand and then they'll find out. It's not true? Well, I mean, you know it when you're doing it for the two grand, don't you? Or? Or maybe he suspected that's who it was, but he was just saying that's who you know what when you're doing it for the two grand, don't you? Or maybe he suspected that's who it was, but he was just saying that's who you know what I mean. I guess I could understand if you suspected it and you were just giving the information but you didn't have any proof. But you wanted the two grand, but you thought it was true.

Speaker 2:

I guess that would add up.

Speaker 1:

So what's the deal with JD?

Speaker 2:

That Friday, yesterday he got off. They, uh, uh, yesterday or friday, yeah, friday, they they dismissed the case. They completely dismissed the case. That is so fucked up.

Speaker 2:

The whole thing was in court and, uh, they, there was nobody there that was on, uh, the witnesses behalf. She, the witness, wasn't there. There was no proof that the witness even got. That's the only thing they did in the court hearing. I watched the whole court hearing.

Speaker 2:

The only thing they were trying to do was basically prove that the witness was here in Ohio at the time of the warrant, I don't know, or the bench warrant, what is that? Called Summons, right? I don't know what you call that Subpoena. There you go, there's the word.

Speaker 2:

So I guess they couldn't get the subpoena. They couldn't prove that she got the subpoena. There was no proof that she got it and they were trying to. The prosecutor the special prosecutor was just trying to basically argue that she was in Ohio and they were using flock cameras to prove that she was like they had like showed, like she was in this state and that state at that time of the subpoena, but that it's been since November. She's been in Arizona or something like that, but she's not even the one that accused him. As far as I understand and I mean I've heard it through the grapevine, but I mean as far as I understand this girl never even wanted that to happen. None, and she didn't want no charges brought on, nothing, none of this shit was said by her, just people went on her behalf that yes, on her behalf.

Speaker 2:

yeah, and they're out there on her behalf trying to attack him to to do exactly what they wanted to do. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm going to call it how I see it. You don't bring up charges on somebody who's up for election and then they're dismissed the day after the election. That just doesn't add up. Or the week after the election. That doesn't add up. And not only that, they had all over the papers and stuff saying he was indicted. When he was in here he said I was not indicted. He goes I was never indicted. These charges have been filed on me, but I have not been indicted.

Speaker 1:

Man, I'd be suing everybody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean to me. That to me is election interference. Honestly, it makes you have to question if this new prosecutor that's coming in is. I mean you've got to question who he is as a person. For one you've got the guy on Rogan going. This guy's not going to help me get it out. I mean, why wouldn't any prosecutor see a case that looks like they're innocent and want to get him off? But it's like clear as a day he goes. Yeah, from what I understand, this new prosecutor isn't going to be interested in doing anything for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but he's kind of speaking for him without speaking to him.

Speaker 2:

I get that. I understand that, but that's what his belief is. Somebody's given him that belief for some reason. Well, that doesn't matter, jd's the only one that he sees. Jd, when he was in here, basically said all of this, like them going after him and everything. He said it right on the podcast. He said that he felt that it was over the Nancy Smith thing. He thought that that was the whole reason that it was over to Nancy Smith. And actually, yeah, that is what happened On Rogan, when that Justin was on there, he said that Cleveland's I think it was his wife, they said said that when she talked to JD he said man, I've already been in enough trouble over this Nancy Smith thing.

Speaker 2:

I can't jump into something right now. You know what I mean, because it worried about the, the, the throwback on it or whatever you know. Push back on it, it's. I mean that's just crazy to me. I mean if, if you're a prosecutor and there's a hint that somebody's in prison that might be innocent, you got to take that tall, you got to be that, you got to take that very serious. I that, that's that. Why would you want that? Why would you just ignore such a thing?

Speaker 1:

that's crazy well, I'm sure there's reasons for it, and I think the reasons are lawsuits and all kinds of stuff you know lawsuits for what?

Speaker 2:

false imprisonment, yeah, but should a prosecutor shouldn't give a shit about that, right? It's not like it's coming out of that prosecutor's pocket. I mean, a city and state will have to pay for sure, but I don't think that's going to come out of his pocket yeah, but another thing is uh, you know, they got their little record to think of not to me. I feel like that's a good thing to put on your record that you, you know, got an, got an innocent man out of prison. To me that's a phenomenal.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand the reasons either. I really don't like. Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I don't. I mean, how could you sleep at night if you know somebody's in prison and they don't aren't supposed to be there? How can you possibly sleep at night? Yeah, that's just crazy. Yeah, I'd be.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, I talked to jd and he says that that justin's gonna fly out and see him this week. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna come in and see him and they're gonna see what they can do, because he's got to do it quick, because he's only got till the end of the year. Now. Do what? Try and look into this case and see about getting exonerated or whatever. But I mean it, he's got to look at the case. That, like jd said when he was in here, you know, it's like I don't know, I've got to see the case. I mean, I haven't looked at it. What can I say, you know. But he did tell the woman in the summer which I believe was down here at St Ladd's. He told her that he thought that it didn't sit well with him when he was like because he sat in on the case. I guess when he was in college and he said it never sat well with him when he was watching, he didn't think it sat well.

Speaker 3:

So, but anyways, either way, JD is definitely the cases are dismissed.

Speaker 2:

He's still not going to be the prosecutor because voting's over. That's what I was about to say dude, it's straight bullshit.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what I'm saying, what I wonder what actions could be taken at this point on that I don't think anything.

Speaker 2:

I mean the people voted, they made their decision.

Speaker 2:

I mean no, no, no, I get that I don't even know how it'll work, like because I'm not like a lawyer or nothing, but like the way it was dismissed is basically because the witness wasn't coming forward. You know what I'm saying. So I don't even know how that works, cause it's not like they said he's innocent or they said that. You know, it's like they say there's like decisions made with prejudice and without prejudice. You know, this is like a without prejudice type decision. Basically, the charges could be brought up at any time. Nobody's saying he's innocent or guilty, they're just saying they're not moving forward because they have no witnesses. So now for him to go I would think for him to go sue them, he'd have to prove that it's completely false and innocent, right, wouldn't he? Or no, that's what would make sense in my logic pea brain. But I'm not an attorney and I didn't take a bar exam or any of those sort of things.

Speaker 2:

But I didn't like the way that that ruling, like with that ruling, that was the one thing that stuck in my head. I can't believe with that ruling, that that is what. Like you'd, rather they looked at the evidence and said, yeah, this is all bullshit, that's dismissed. Right, it's like limbo. Yeah, exactly, and I don't think that that gives him as big of a leg to stand on when it comes to you know, suing for the uh, you know the election interference and that's what was.

Speaker 2:

I don't care what anybody says, there's no question in my head that was election interference, if you've ever seen it. I mean, you bring up charges where you're not even going to go to court until the day of the week after the election. Four days after the election In fact, it was on Tuesday, it was Friday was his first court hearing for that, and then they dismissed it on that day. Well, no, they actually on that day, from what I understand that, from what I understand through the grapevine, is that their text messages were given to them that the prosecutors knew about that basically said that the witness did not want any of this and none of it happened, basically. So they extended it for another week and then in a week later. That's when they dismissed it all right, your personal opinion.

Speaker 1:

Do you think he wins? If that didn't come up, I oh absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. How could he not? I mean their whole campaign. I didn't need. Nobody even knew who was running. There was only signs out that said vote JD out.

Speaker 2:

All they did was they put JD in the newspaper in a in a bad light and and they put him in a bad light and said he was. They said he was indicted on felony charges. Him and Birch said he was indicted on felony charges him and Birch. That wasn't true, but the wording that the newspaper said and they could. Maybe you know, we'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they did misspeak, but it doesn't much matter, because being charged and being indicted doesn't mean much to the public anyways. But the word indicted sounds bad. So they say indicted, put that all over the newspaper, that's all anybody sees. And then you just see vote JD out everywhere. You don't even see signs really for this, this guy, nothing. All you do is see these signs that say vote JD out because JD is the common denominator that everybody knows. So they put them in a bad light, vote them out, and it's dismissed a week later. Dude, dirty, that's as dirty as it gets. That's as dirty as recording somebody for a thousand hours. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Thousand hours geez.

Speaker 2:

You know the shame of it is like you look at these people that are paranoid about stuff. You know what I mean. That's why. That's why that is why because sometimes there's a reason you should be paranoid there really is but anyways, what about that tyson shit?

Speaker 1:

what mike tyson His ass cheeks. That was amazing. Huh, listen, people are complaining about that fight. I'm like you didn't pay for it. You got to see Mike's ass. What the hell? Why the fuck?

Speaker 2:

do people walk out there with a jack step out of his ass? Cheeks.

Speaker 1:

Love you, dude.

Speaker 2:

Love you too, son. That shit was crazy. Oh my God, I I'm like what the hell? Yeah, it was the most exciting thing in the fight, though entertaining. And what about jake?

Speaker 2:

paul with that bullshit spray constantly, dude. I don't even know what the product is. I'm not even gonna say it on here. I do know what it is, but I'm not gonna say it on here. Not that I'm ever going to buy organic spray and spray it all over myself of any sort Nope, not after that. That was ignorant, that was just annoying. I'm like what the fuck is he doing? I mean, the whole thing was to make you go Google what the hell he's spraying on him so that he can go say he smells good or whatever organic shit.

Speaker 1:

You can say what you want about him, but that dude's a marketing genius.

Speaker 2:

Good for him. He ain't going to get my money, that's all I said. Yeah, maybe your son will. No, my son ain't getting it either, although he loves them. Primes that his brother has. What are they Prime? What Prime? It's like a drink. Oh, it's a drink that I think it's ass. That was great. I'll tell you what you know. When I knew Tyson was going to lose the fight, when I absolutely walked out and tripped.

Speaker 2:

No, when they showed his ass, cheeks, I'm like man, that's an old man's ass. He's fucked up. That's an old man's ass, I wouldn't know, young man's ass you.

Speaker 1:

You know why you say that Uh-uh? Because you can't see yours when you're walking.

Speaker 2:

No, I know I can. I look back in the mirror like this I'm like yeah, and then I see Tyson, I'm like oh, we fucked. Yeah, we fucked Nah. That's an old man ass dare.

Speaker 1:

That shit had me dying though. I started I was like what the fuck? Holy shit, holy shit, was everywhere.

Speaker 2:

oh my god, man, that dude had look at jake paul got mike tyson off that podcast chair smoking weed to go into training, true, and gave the man 20 million dollars he said that at the end if you watch there's a, there's a thing at the very end, like most people didn't stay up late to watch it because you're already annoyed with it. But but he said, I'll probably never fight again. He goes. Right now he goes. I'm I'm disrespecting the sport, I'm just fighting to pay my bills. That's what he said. That was tyson's exact words. But I mean god bless him. Good, good for him to get his $20 million and relax. He already blew the rest on coke and whores, so you know what I mean. Now he needs $20 million to sit on for a minute.

Speaker 1:

Hopefully he don't go. Buy no more Rolls Royces and shit Get sued. Punch somebody in the eye.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, I don't think he's going to punch nobody in the eye anymore. He says he ain't vicious, no more.

Speaker 1:

You see him slap the shit out, Jake.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was a joke. That was all fucking promo, promo. Oh for sure it was. No question that was promo garbage. I don't think so, no question, that was just all trying to. That was. That was what is the word. Theatrical, that's all. That was theatrics? I don't think so, but I'll give them credit. I'll give them credit. They gave us a shitty fight, the two of them, but them girls were banging. But the two fights before them, both fights before them, were worth watching for sure. No question, those were definitely worth watching.

Speaker 1:

You got to remember that was free.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, those were definitely worth watching. You gotta remember that was free. Yeah, those were definitely worth watching. Because that, that, that uh, the only thing is is I, I think like the first fight or the second fight actually was, what was that? That was uh, barrios, and who was it?

Speaker 2:

Bar and ramos, and that fight was that was a hell of a fight. I mean that was a really good fight. And then they come up and they give them the tie. You know what I mean? Ramos was hitting it at the end, though I mean it looked good at the end, but Ramos, he didn't even start until the sixth round or something it didn't seem like. But that was a good-ass fight regardless. That was round or something. It didn't seem like, you know, but that was a good ass fight regardless. That was a good fight.

Speaker 2:

And then them girls come in and they do it, and I don't think anybody would have been mad if they would have tied the fight, if they would have, if they would have gave him a draw. I don't think anybody would have been mad. You would have probably felt that that, that uh, that that uh, uh, serrano should have won, maybe, but you would have maybe agreed more with the, but when they just gave it to that Katie or Taylor or whatever her name was, when they gave it to her, I mean even the crowd, the announcers, all of us at home none of us agreed with it.

Speaker 1:

Well, I disagree with you. If they'd have made a draw, that girl should have won that fight, because she got that point taken from the headbutts.

Speaker 2:

I agree All I'm saying. But the thing is, in the beginning of that fight though in the beginning it was similar to the second fight where Barrios and ramos, where ramos really didn't engage enough, and that's true. That was true in the in the taylor and serrano fight too it was like in the beginning of it serrano really wasn't engaging like she should have and then she started to towards the end. So you know, she loses those rounds in the front. I mean, that's just what happens if you're not gonna get engaged, you lose. So you know she loses those rounds in the front. I mean, that's just what happens If you're not going to get engaged, you lose those rounds. You know what I mean. Coming back and like giving it, I mean you just still lose those rounds regardless.

Speaker 3:

But I'm not saying that it should have been a draw.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying it should have been a draw. I'm saying that if they would have, if it would have been a draw, people wouldn't have been so pissed off this morning. You know what I mean? They would have been here, they would have been irritated, maybe a little bit. I think people were genuinely like that's some bullshit right there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was. I was like she should have won it, everybody should have won it. Yeah, I I don't, then you're minusing the point for the headbutts. Then you really say, oh well, then she, she got it now because the other girl just lost that round.

Speaker 2:

And, if we're being honest, she should have lost three points for headbutts, jesus. At least three of them were real bad. At least three of them, yeah, but the fight was good. I mean, it was a hell of a fight. Regardless. Either way, we won because we enjoyed the hell out of those two fights.

Speaker 1:

I was listening to people yesterday talking about how they like they was pissed off about it. I'm like for what? Everything was free.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everything was free. You got to see a couple good fights, a really good fight. That first fight was stupid too.

Speaker 1:

Him, humping him in the corner and shit Like what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 2:

This is stupid?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was like.

Speaker 2:

Adrian Broner, that's all Still dumb yeah.

Speaker 1:

But anyways, now you got a free fight, you got to see Mike Tyson for the last time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I could have lived without seeing that. Yeah, well, whatever but anyways, dude, he was walking out there. He looked like AJ walking, didn't he?

Speaker 1:

He tripped when he first started coming out and then he looked like he was struggling, walking all the way through.

Speaker 2:

I when he first started coming out and then he looked like he was struggling, walking all the way through. I was thinking Jake Paul should have gave him a ride up there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he drove up there. So then when they're fighting and shit, he just touches him and Mike looks like he's going to fall. I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, his legs weren't good. Yeah, them legs were gone. When he did swing them, punches were moving.

Speaker 1:

He still had the speed. But them legs, man, they just ain't holding up. He didn't have his legs at all, but he didn't.

Speaker 2:

That's all and a little bit of ass muscles or something. There wasn't no muscle in that ass. I'm just saying I wasn't trying. You got to have some ass behind you when you're swinging.

Speaker 1:

I got the glimpse and I was like whoa, you was paying a little too much attention. Well, it wasn't my fault, the fucking thing froze right while his ass was there, so I got Tyson's ass in a thing going, so it hypnotized you 25, 99.

Speaker 2:

He was there. That was some bullshit dude, that freezing shit too.

Speaker 1:

I didn't have that. Once it started doing that shit, I backed it, it up about two minutes and it ran right through everything. Just I just kept it there oh really no, I didn't I.

Speaker 2:

I it did it to me about five times. Everybody was bitching about that. Oh, it was everywhere. Everybody was pissed off about it. I like the one amanda posted, did you see that one? It was funny. It said why am I necessity freezing Like Tyson? It was Tyson's face, it was funny as shit. But yeah, that freezing shit too. That was everywhere. Everybody was pissed off about that shit. You know what I mean. So it's not even my fault that I seen his ass so long.

Speaker 2:

It didn't freeze up right there the hell, it didn't. True story.

Speaker 1:

I should have took a picture.

Speaker 2:

I seen enough it froze right on that ass. All that cottage cheese, no muscle in there. I'm like mad looking at tyson's ass and pissed off that my netflix is frozen holy shit, I couldn't believe that really happened.

Speaker 1:

Though. What's that? What love you, dad?

Speaker 2:

love you too, son and he's just ass out, ass out, ass out. Good fight, though good, I mean the two good fights before that, you know, I mean I enjoyed those fights for sure. Oh yeah, I'd have never thought I'd like a woman fight like that like I did. But see then that now that brings up the question though, how fair is it now if those girls they, I mean they might have to fight a man? No, not, no more. With a micro penis, nope, no. But this is the thing.

Speaker 2:

So trump okay, trump is saying no, no more, that's not going to happen. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm sure he's gonna put somebody that's crazy in charge, because he ain't fucking around. He's just like his list is who he's. He ain't fucking around. He's just like he's almost disrespectful with the people he's picking. It's like it's literally disrespectful, I mean, of anybody on the left, like if you thought he's gonna join them to get like, join people together. He's showing you like, no, no, we're going to do it this way, this is how we're doing it, but either way, but what does that matter? To like the World Olympics and stuff. We don't have control over that, do we? Sure how we got a lot of influence on that? We do yeah, I, we've got a lot of influence on that. We do yeah, I mean we have influence on it, but I don't know if we.

Speaker 1:

We'll be like we're not participating in it. If it's like that, that's the biggest thing right there. They'll be like oh okay, you get what.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying what do they care? Then they get to win without us, then it doesn't really mean nothing. It doesn't really mean nothing when a man wins, but they do it Exactly.

Speaker 1:

So that's why it's going to stop. If the US pulls out and says we ain't going to do that sport, then we're not going to do that. I guarantee they will. They won't do it If that's the way he's doing it. Yeah, I bet they won't.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that's true. We'll see. I don't think it's fair, I don't think that. You see those women fighting, those women are throwing. They know that them are women fighting and they're tough. They're women fighting women. Yeah, and that's how it's supposed to be. And I'd argue that women shouldn't even be in a boxing ring because it's you know it's just so vicious?

Speaker 2:

It was so vicious, did you see it? So vicious? Oh my God, beating up them pretty faces. That ain't right, that ain't right. Amanda brought up a good point. What if you're bleeding when you go in there to fight? That girls usually don't bleed. Athletes, that's true. Athletes don't usually. You're right about that. But that thing with billy jean king, she couldn't like she had trouble with her periods or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

The tennis player I don't know, but usually women don't when they, when they're uh in training and shit like that, they don't, they don't at all, huh well from my from your experience from my knowledge of the many years of being involved with nothing. But yeah, no them girls um I think you're right.

Speaker 2:

I think I have heard that. I think that is a thing.

Speaker 1:

I think I think when they're in training it kind of fades away and they don't have it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, yeah, at that time. At that time I think, yeah, I think that was what they said about Billie Jean King. I remember hearing that because she was such an athlete or whatever, and it just didn't. That's a good point. I didn't think about that.

Speaker 1:

I got a million of them.

Speaker 2:

That is a good one. That's a good point. Finally, finally one of them. But I mean it was. It's good. I mean, trump won some money. They sold a bunch of tickets. Jake Paul got a bunch of money. Everybody walked out of there. How much money did them girls get? Probably nothing. I mean, they were really the the star of the show. Yeah, they were the star of the show. I think I'm going to call you out Jake Paul. I think you should give them both a bonus. That's what I'm saying. That's a fair thing. At least a little bonus.

Speaker 1:

Something, something to say I appreciate you, them girls being on that stage like that. They got their bonus. Believe that.

Speaker 2:

I don't know If you go home, you got to pay your fucking rent, dude. Still, You'd think Like, ooh, I got the high stage, but I got to pay my rent.

Speaker 1:

I ain't got no one else saying I was like they're getting endorsements and shit just from being on that stage. Yeah possibly People was calling them the next day. I guarantee it. You want to wear a Nike shirt. You want to?

Speaker 2:

wear a DJ shirt. Yeah, you're right, but you got to have the right people in place to profit from that and do it the right way. Contracts and shit, but yeah them girls, I don't care, jake.

Speaker 1:

Paul still should give them a little extra money. They were the star of the show, but I think letting them be the star of the show is enough.

Speaker 2:

Now see, is it true? You think what they said about the getting knocked out shit, yeah, that if Jake Paul knocked him out in the first round he got almost no money and it went up every round he went out. You mean Tyson? Mm-hmm? No, tyson knocked him out. No, no, no, no. From what they're saying, I heard they both were suspended for boxing.

Speaker 2:

I heard that Jake Paul's agreement was like or the agreement with Tyson was that if Jake Paul knocked him out in the first round, he only got X amount of money. Second round X amount of money. Third round X amount of money. Second round X amount of money. Third round X amount of money. I think you got it backwards. No, I'm telling you that's what I was told Basically, if he went in and knocked out Mike Tyson, that the whole thing Tyson would have went in there for almost nothing. I'm telling you that's what it was. That's what I'm under, that's what I'm under, that's everything I've seen. That's what it says.

Speaker 2:

So they're saying that Jake Paul let it go to a whole distance so he could get all his money, which would make sense of them throwing him out of boxing, because that is kind of shady. You know what I mean? I don't know. You go in there to win period. They did not. Neither one of them did. No, no, neither one of them did. I feel like maybe in the first half of the first round they might have thought they were going to fight and then Jake Paul was like oh, this old man is fucking old. He probably realized right away I could knock him out right now if I wanted to. You know what I mean? I don't know. They said he's fighting Muhammad Ali next. That's what they said, george Foreman. That's what they said, george Foreman. Do you see the one meme with the Like the Crypt Keeper guy? That's like walking Folded over, but Tyson looked like he could still hurt you when he throws a punch. That's all I'm saying. I still don't want punched by Tyson.

Speaker 1:

I think his legs had him fucked up when he couldn't move, so he was trying to walk him down and you're like there ain't no pe. He couldn't move, so he was trying to walk him down and you're like there ain't no pep in that step.

Speaker 2:

He wasn't even trying to walk him down, he wasn't even doing anything. Really, every once in a while he'd jump up and dance around. Yeah, amanda said it looks like me playing with the dog.

Speaker 1:

That was just. Like I said nobody paid for it.

Speaker 2:

The grind. No, nobody paid for it, but they definitely. They gave us them good fights. In the beginning, Jake Paul said Amanda won the fight. According to my wife, which is Serrano, she said Jake Paul even said it.

Speaker 1:

I think everybody agrees with that except for whoever those three judges were. That's why I said I know there's, there's been cases where they they've over overruled the. The ringside, you know, I'm saying is there, yeah, but then that's very, very, very rare that might should be one of them.

Speaker 2:

Maybe that should be. Like I said, I don't think anybody would have been so hurt if they would have said it was a tie because because she did have the early rounds and stuff.

Speaker 1:

But listen if it wasn't for the headbutts early rounds and stuff. Listen if it wasn't for the headbutts Serrano still wins, that's her name, right yeah. Amanda Serrano, if it wasn't for the headbutts. She wins With the headbutt and then the minus and the point she wins.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she got robbed. I'm not disagreeing. I don't know. I just know that you judge the early rounds too. You got to judge the early rounds that's what nobody wants to admit Because she was coming in strong at the end.

Speaker 1:

I don't think you judge To me, and this is my opinion. You don't judge the first rounds like you do the last.

Speaker 2:

But that's not what it is. It's a 9-10 system. That's what it is. It's a 9 and 10 system. That's what it is, and I agree with you. I've always said that I don't like the 9-10 system.

Speaker 1:

I never have liked it, see everybody feels like when you go in the first round you're filling each other out, so the first round never counts. But it's still 9-10. Unless you knock them out in the first round.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, more than any of them, no, yeah, that's when you either scare them or give them confidence no, you're feeling each other out how they move and shit. You're not really trying to go for you come out of that first round knowing you're either about to get your ass whipped or you could maybe take this guy that's. That's maybe one of the most important rounds, yeah that's.

Speaker 1:

That's a feel-out round. That's why they say that the, the um, what do they call it? The championship rounds are the last two rounds.

Speaker 2:

That's why they always say that I agree with that, but that when you're running a 9-10 system, that's the, that's the system. Nobody changed that, nobody cares about that. It's, it's but, sir. But she didn't win anything until halfway through.

Speaker 1:

I mean it was halfway so you think the girl dominated them rounds the first, first two.

Speaker 2:

Dominated them. I didn't say that, but she won them. It doesn't matter, it's a 9-10 system. What she won them or didn't, she won them. She won the first four rounds? I don't think so For sure. We watched the fight she won those first four. I don't think so. Serrano didn't look, because when they first came in I thought Serrano was like I thought just eyeing them up.

Speaker 1:

What other rounds do you think that other girl won? What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

You're saying she won the first, whatever I don't think she won any of the other ones. I don't think she won any. I think it was four and four. That's what I think. You think it was four and four. Yeah, I think the first four she won, I think the first four, or or maybe it's like the first three and then maybe she won the fourth but lost the fifth. But either way I'd say they both won four rounds, but with that and you lose a point. So who wins the fight? Amanda serrano, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not.

Speaker 1:

I'm not complaining about that, but I'm saying, when I look at that when you take that damage from that headbutt, that changes it too.

Speaker 2:

I don't disagree. I don't disagree, and I think she should have three points off. I'm not saying you're wrong about Amanda Serrano should be the winner. I'm not saying that. All I'm saying is, when them judges are judging it they judge each round. It's nine or ten. There's nothing they could do about it If they decided it was this at that time. That's what it is. You know what I mean. I don't know. I don't agree. I mean, if you looked at the last, if you looked at the end of the fight and wanted to change your, do you think that would be fair too, or no?

Speaker 2:

I think they should have went to the scorecards when they had that big-ass gash in the girl's eye, they should have stopped the fight. No, she'd have lost for sure. At that point she hadn't won any rounds yet.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what fight you watched.

Speaker 2:

I watched that fight, but she hadn't won any rounds yet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, not in those first four, I don't think.

Speaker 2:

All right, I don't agree with you, but go ahead. Well, I mean, that's what they showed on the when they showed it to it. I think it was like three they showed. I think Like when they showed the scores on it, I think it was three of them. Everybody was agreeing with the first three rounds. I was shocked because when they walked in the ring I thought Serrano looked way tougher, and then all of a sudden it was like what's going on here?

Speaker 1:

This girl is way tougher than I thought she was. Well, you got see, everybody forgets when, when tyson fought holafield, holafield kept leading with his head. Then when he bit him, that the time he bit him. So when he bumps him in his head, well, that that hurts. You know what I'm saying. So they're gonna, yeah, like it's gonna affect that round, whether they got slid on that one or not.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. I'm not saying that, I'm not arguing that. I already said. I think you're right. I said there should be three points. There's three headbutts. I think should have been counted as points against her. I agree with that. A hundred percent. I agree with that. A hundred percent, that's what I'm saying you got to look at all that, but that's what. I'm saying you got to look at all that. But if they don't call the head point, the ref don't and you're the judge, then what do you do?

Speaker 1:

Well, if you're the judge and you've seen that she keeps headbutting her, I don't know if you see that when you're watching in real time.

Speaker 2:

I didn't In real time. I didn't notice it, Not until they started showing.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, oh, that shit's dirty. When tyson was getting hit by holofield, that one I didn't see. Well, I seen some of them but I didn't realize it was that bad. But then you go back and you watch that fight and you see how many times he's like, oh shit, you know like he just kept on and, yeah, in real time.

Speaker 2:

I didn't see that going on, I didn't, I, I really didn't and it I noticed it after the fact, after they took, after they started talking about.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, oh okay but you're, you're uh, uh, a judge. You're looking for that kind of stuff you're looking for, you're watching, you know each punch, you're counting each punch and all that shit. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

yeah but it's real time, though, who knows? She's probably leading with their head, with the judges behind her. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

You don't know you think they're watching watching from the thing. Looking up, I think they're watching monitors and shit like zoomed in and shit like three different monitors.

Speaker 2:

No, I think they're watching it live aren't they Maybe?

Speaker 1:

I thought they were. I thought they were anyway.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it'd be live, but I'm I mean, I think they're in person watching it right there from the table. Well, I'm sure they've got a better view than everybody else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but if you play them, it's just like in basketball, like what's it? Kobe Bryant always is like freaking, shooting the ball and then smacking people, but he does it when the ref ain't looking. He's smacking the shit out of them, or did you know what I mean? That was like a known fact. Everybody knew it. That was a good game. But you see what I'm saying, it's the same effect. I mean you just do it when the judge ain't. When you know you got her back to the judges, pop her.

Speaker 1:

Bernard Hopkins was good at that. Yeah, sneaky, yeah, he was pretty sneaky.

Speaker 2:

Sneaky sneak Either way. I'm just saying Did they score Tyson 10 in the first two rounds? Is that true? Johnny Newman just said they scored Tyson 10 in the first two rounds. Is that true? Johnny Newman just said they scored Tyson 10 in the first round.

Speaker 1:

Well, it looked like he was pretty good in the first one.

Speaker 2:

The first round.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I thought he was going to be okay, I thought, but I don't know, but anyways, what else we got, what else we got.

Speaker 2:

Man, that was one of the biggest things going on was that. And the Trump picks. And the Trump picks are like, they're wild, they're like, even for me they're a little too extreme and I'm like Mr Right Wing. But God damn man, what? What does he know? Well, like this Gatz, that's the attorney general. They don't even know if he'll get confirmed. They don't even think that. And then there's other people going yeah, that's Trump. He's playing his game. He's doing that so that when he picks his real pick, everybody would be like, okay, good, you know what I mean. But I doubt it. I think he really wants them in there. He's getting. He's putting like everybody's, they're freaking out because that Peter, what's that?

Speaker 2:

Peter Hatch, I forget what his name is, the one from Fox News or whatever. I can't think of what his name is right now, but they're freaking out about him, like, oh, he's a news reporter. But then I was looking, it's like he was in Princeton and Yale and he was pretty high-ranking in the military. I mean he's solid. I mean there's people that haven't even been in the military, that have been the Secretary of Defense. You know what I mean, but I mean still, he's definitely— Although I say that. But then you got like Robert Kennedy, who's a Democrat, always has been a Democrat, but they're going off on him about like oh, he's an anti-vaxxer and he's this, he's that. They're like freaking out about him. And then that Tulsi Gabbard, everybody's like oh, because I guess she was on a terrorist watch list at some point or something which is just ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

And then I heard that Bernie Sanders in fact I heard it and then I went and checked to see if it was true and it was true Bernie Sanders actually tweeted him Trump, or tweeted out that he was looking forward to working with Trump to get credit cards all down to 10%, to stop these big banks from damning Now. So his picks are. They're like, they're definitely big fuck yous to the left wing for sure, no question asked. But then when you take Tulsi Gabbard and you take Robert Kennedy, who the left just basically fucked over, and Bernie Sanders, who the left fucked over, I mean he was like basically the one in the lead. Everybody wanted Bernie Sanders. When Hillary was running against Trump and they dogged him, basically, they just went nope, it's going to be Hillary. You know what I mean. So you take those three people that the left have discarded, you know what I mean. And Trump starts working with them and I mean Bernie Sanders is a socialist. I mean he's, but he has.

Speaker 2:

The thing he doesn't like is the big banking. That's a good thing, like slowing down the big banking and the money that they're getting fees for, because they are getting like ridiculous. Like the credit cards are like 18, 19% some of them, and that don't even count the fees. They're charging people fees and if you got bad credit you probably pay a 24, 25% with fees and all these different things. So he's going to try to put a cap on it, kind of To 10%. Now, that being said, reagan was the one who got that cap lifted to free up money so there was actual money to borrow, because at that time you really money was tight. So I don't know if people would be. I don't know if banks will be willing to lend money whenever they're not getting enough back on their money. So that that's a whole nother issue, but it's an interesting one. I mean it's definitely. I think it would be. I mean, there there should be a loan sharking Point. There should be a point when it's Loan sharking period.

Speaker 2:

I think I feel like there should be, especially when, I would say, 90% of the Credit card and borrowed money debt that's out there is to like the less what's the word? I don't want to say it's it's, it's the poor class, it's the working class, but it's also just like the the, the people with the least amount of means. You know what I'm saying. Like they if they're putting stuff on credit cards to get through and like live life, because they don't have the money. You know what I mean. They don't really have the option to pay it off every month. Those same people, you know what I mean. So I think that that's a fair or or a good fight. I think I think that's a good fight to fight. That goes for everybody.

Speaker 1:

That's not just for one aspect of people, it's not like just the poor class, the working class, the rich, it's for everybody it is but like.

Speaker 2:

But like people with money, then, and means that that, put on credit cards, they do it for airplane miles and points and simplicity and easy of use and then they pay it off. You know what I mean. The ones that are going to pay those big interests are really the ones that probably need to get the least amount of being taken advantage of. Honestly, you know what I mean. Those are the people that need it the most and you're taking the most money out of those people is what I'm saying. I guess the people that can't afford to make like to pay it off every month are the ones that are paying the big money to these banks and things like that. So I mean, I get it, it's a, it's a good fight, it's a I. I think it's a fair fight and you're right, it does go across the board. The question is does it free up enough? Will the money be freed up? Will the people with the money be willing to put it out there for a risk of a lot less?

Speaker 1:

percentage. Yeah, but I think the cuts were that other shit. Remember you sent me this week when all that stupid, stupid ass government spending. Oh, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

That was crazy, wasn't it? That's not even a fraction of it, I know, but the shit that's on there is just like you got to be kidding me. Overseas, like studying how.

Speaker 1:

Helmets and seatbelts in another country. Is it safer for them? Yeah, it's like. Yeah, you don't have to have to study for it. It's common fucking sense Millions of dollars for that.

Speaker 2:

And then like about gay frogs in different places Like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's our money being spent on stupid shit like that.

Speaker 2:

Do you think it's really being spent on that or they're just doing dumb shit with it, Like, is that just?

Speaker 1:

like the excuse it's on. That's an excuse to spend money. What they're doing is they hey, I want to go on vacation here, so I'm going to do a study over there.

Speaker 2:

I think what they should do. I think what would solve most of those problems like that stupid money being prosecuted prosecute them, fuckers 's what no, well that that would. That would help, but I I think even better than that is to change the way a bill can be written, the the problem is is, if a if so, if they want, if they want to pass a bill to send to say, all the restaurants and stuff were hurt from covid, and we decided, okay, we're going to give the restaurants in America some money and we want to give them $10 billion we're going to allocate for these restaurants in America that are hurting. Well, that bill can be written, and only written based on restaurants that showed profits at this date or this date and then the ones that didn't show profits and this. That stuff should be written, but for some reason there's 600 pages. You could have probably written in two, but it's like oh, we're going to redo this museum. We're going to send money to Egypt so they can see how gay people are helping, are working out in their country. We're going to send money to France so they can figure out this or that In a 600 thing to help the restaurants in America. It doesn't make sense. So they should limit Literally. Each bill should be only limited to one thing. That's what I think. Why should a bill ever have more than one thing on it?

Speaker 1:

Why? Because you're pulling the wool over your eyes. Yeah, absolutely. And then?

Speaker 2:

they sit there and go oh, he's not voting. It's like Kamala was running in the campaign. She kept saying that you know Trump? First of all, trump wasn't even in office, but they said Trump's the one who buried the bill. They had the border package bill or whatever, and they kept saying that Trump buried it. Well, that just goes to show you Trump can get shit done, first of all cause he's not even an office and he's getting it taken care of. But second of all, she's saying that it was. He was killing something that was for the border crossings and that was solving all of our problems.

Speaker 2:

The truth is there was so much fricking fat in there and so much like they were just still going to be letting X amount in. They were giving sanctity to everybody that was here. You know what I mean. There was all kinds of bad shit in that bill. It just doesn't make sense. Why? Why can't a bill like I? I swear to God. I think a bill by law can be no longer than three pages. Boom, end of story. That's what I think. I think you set the law. The bill's three pages long. If it's longer than that, you can't have it. Oh well, can't go in there. You better trim that down to three or write another bill, because if you wrote a bill saying that I want to send money to Europe for them to study how shoes affect their feet, we're going to say no.

Speaker 1:

That's why they pull the wool over your eyes.

Speaker 2:

But if it's buried to, help these poor kids that don't have food, we go oh the poor kids that don't have food.

Speaker 1:

You know why they do that Because it's so hard to trace the money.

Speaker 2:

That's what it is, but it sounds like they are. And you know what they said too. They said was it the Pentagon or was it the FBI? Maybe One of them? I forget One of those agencies has never passed an audit ever. They ask them they said so how long has it been since they pass it off? They go oh, they've, they've, they've never passed an audit. Like what the fuck? Wow, why have the audit? Then I sent out a tweet last night to Elon Musk. I tagged him on X. I said if you really want to trim the fat, how about you just simplify the tax codes so that you could just eliminate 80% of the IRS workers? Because it would just be simpler to figure out, it would just be easy Simplify the tax code. Why has it got to be so complicated? Why is all these tax?

Speaker 1:

like rich, poor, middle class. Put a fucking percentage straight across the board Flat tax. You like that? I love it.

Speaker 2:

Flat tax? I'm not. I don't think we should. Personally, I think they should get rid of all tax, all income tax, and then only tax corporations. That's what I think. That's how it used to be in the country, when we were the richest country in the world. That's how it was. Well, it ain't never going back to that. You know that. No, because they figured out they could get us.

Speaker 1:

But that's what it should be you go flat all the way across the board and everybody ain't. Oh, they're not paying their share. You know what I?

Speaker 2:

mean that's not fair for the guy that's only making $10,000 a year, he's got to pay $2,500 out. Have you paid 25% flat tax?

Speaker 1:

Who said 25%? What if it's 10?

Speaker 2:

Even if it's 10, if you've got $10,000 for the year, you've got to pay $1,000? That's a lot if you've got it.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. Whatever what I'm talking about, I'm just saying everybody should pay their fair share I I don't disagree with you on that.

Speaker 2:

What if it's five percent? I don't like the flat tax. A lot of people are for it.

Speaker 2:

You're not the only person out there that thinks flat tax is a way to go because somebody's getting fucked one way or another the problem is it's not that, like I don't even know if the flat, I think just simplified a tax code somehow, flat tax would be great, I guess. But the problem is is then it becomes when do you I mean, because a lot of these things that are in there that you don't pay taxes on your is because they're things you wrote off, I think. Granted, it's money you spent, so it helps economy anyways. So that's why write-offs aren't really a horrible thing. I mean people, people, always oh, he wrote off, but he also spent. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like a guy like Trump, when he said, oh, you read out, you wrote off a billion dollars. Hillary said that, like, you wrote, wrote off a billion dollars in taxes or whatever, and he said you're damn right, I did. But the thing that people forget is he also spent a billion dollars to Americans somewhere. That you know what I mean. That was written off, and that's that's where the question becomes okay, you get a flat tax, but when you buy a boat, does you know, do you get to take that off of that? Or if, when you buy a car, do you get to take that off of? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

like that, that's where those are all questionable things. But what it was not is like what he's saying about the um um not taxing overtime. I like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but like Steven, he's like fuck Cause he's on salary. She's like this is bullshit.

Speaker 1:

You can't please everybody, but what I'm saying is, if he does that, that gets people incentive to work. That makes fucking. That makes the economy boom. You know what I'm saying. Know I'm saying because you're, you're, you're gonna put in the extra hours, you're gonna make more money, you're gonna do more things. That's like lowering gas. That makes people spend on gas. Because you're, they're not.

Speaker 2:

Well, I ain't gonna drive around because you know I'm saying it makes honestly, I think that that whole tax system right now is just a redistribution of money, though I mean I don't even think we need it. I think you could actually zero out taxes for people's income period, overtime tips, everything, regular wages. I think you could get rid of it all and I think we'd be okay, because the people that are paying taxes there's other people that are getting ridiculous amounts of money that paid no taxes, like they're getting $15,000 tax returns. Another guy's paying 10. You know what I mean it just I think if you zero, I think it would zero out better than you think it would People are like oh well, you got to pay. I think when it comes down to like the income taxes the actual, like working man's income tax, not businesses and stuff I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 1:

But the working man's income tax? I don't think it's necessary. I think it's just a redistribution of money. It doesn't really do anything to the government. I know that fucking no. Well, the way he's saying it right now is no tax on overtime I like it. And no tax on tips too well, I don't care about that, because I didn't got nothing to do yeah, but it's nice because you won't have to tip the bartenders as much. Don't be saying that shit. Them girls going to key your truck.

Speaker 2:

They get to keep it all, so you ain't got to tip them as much. See, get to put some more pony in your pocket. Them girls.

Speaker 1:

they're about their money boy. Yeah, you ain't kidding Too much. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I worry about that too, with the ones that are about their money. That much it's a little bit much, I think.

Speaker 1:

It's almost like a mental illness or something.

Speaker 2:

Well, you worry about what they're like Capable of. Yeah, if they're worried about money, that much you worry you got to worry about. Like you know, everybody has to worry about that. That's a real thing. You know, the only one that had that hasn't proven to be true with so far really was amanda santiago. She's never like she's a fair person. She's about her money but she's about fairness too. You know, like she's about right and wrong, but anybody else that's been like really about their money. It's turned out that they were they. They take or took or whatever. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Something what's up with their lateness, though I don't know what that's. How are yesterday?

Speaker 2:

45 minutes, always, always, that's every shift, that's always how it is the other girl.

Speaker 2:

It isn't fair and it's and the thing that bugs me about it more than anything is that forever she was a server and her shift started at 4, and she would show up at 4.30 or quarter to 5, somewhere around there, and then, as soon as she started bartending, all of a sudden she can't make it at 5. Well, wait a minute, you made it at 4 before, you can't make it at 5 now. Or you made it at 4.30 before, but you can't make it. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1:

It's just like that's just my time there was nobody there in front of you. You know I'm saying so the other girl, and I ain't saying because of the girl yesterday, I'm just saying in general which I've seen her do it multiple, multiple times.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'll be honest every day she never is on time, ever. That's and and, and I'll be honest last, last Sunday, I had to bartend in the morning and that was the reason I didn't want to bartend more than anything else was. I was like God damn it, she's not going to be here till like six o'clock. I was, I well, I actually Liz ended up coming, coming in and covering for me. She came in and covered a shit for me, but really that was the most stressful part about the whole situation that was going on, because Jess called off while we were on air last weekend and I think she had mentioned that she had been sick all week, so it wasn't a real big surprise, but she definitely said she couldn't come in.

Speaker 2:

Nobody would cover it. So I had to do it Right. The big stressor to me and I swear to God I could show you the text messages the big stressor I had is this is great. Now I'm going to be here till six o'clock because Amanda's the one coming in the night. It's, it's, it's not right to the people that you work for.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, somebody. You know I ain't saying anything. I'm just saying like, if a girl is working and she's maybe getting picked up you know what I'm saying my ride's going to be here at five or whatever, whatever time she starts, and she's got to be here an hour because you know she's late, and not only that, you know how much money Amanda's missing in that hour.

Speaker 2:

That's a busy hour, usually she's she's missing a lot of money in that hour. That's usually like we start really getting busy in that hour.

Speaker 1:

Everybody got their flaws in work, you know, but that's hers. Out of everything else, she's great oh no, yeah, that's her definite flaw.

Speaker 2:

Her lateness is definitely her flaw, for sure. I don't understand that. I don't either, because I have that incentive program where if you show up to all your shifts on time, you get a dollar more an hour. She has never gotten it, ever. She's never gotten it, and I would have thought for her that she would have. Like you know, she's about her money I would have thought for sure she would have been the first one to try and get that dollar an hour, but she didn't, didn't even care about it that much, didn't even pay attention to it, quite frankly, which is wild, you know what I mean, I don't know. That's pretty wild to me, because I would have thought for sure.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, she's going to hear about this and she's going to be mad at us. It's okay, it's all right, it's the truth.

Speaker 2:

Now see how fair is that, though, but nobody else is allowed to be mad that she's late every day, but if we say something, about it. We're the ones that are in the wrong. Right, Like how does that work? I don't think that's how it works, dude, that's not how it works. I mean, if you're wrong, you're wrong.

Speaker 1:

I mean you got to sit there and own it, and I was getting on her a little bit yesterday about it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you already lit the fire. She wasn fire she wasn't mad she just kind of laughed it off but no, she don't care, she don't, doesn't matter today or tomorrow or whatever.

Speaker 1:

What's that? When she's scheduled, she'll be late oh yeah, 100.

Speaker 2:

She's never come on time, ever. And, like I said, it was a different shift. That's what she said. Something like she was. She was mad because I wouldn't schedule her on the patio and I I tried. I scheduled her a few shifts on the patio in the summer and she's showing up at like four, something. It's like no, that patio shift starts at three o'clock. And she said she, then she, then I took her off of it, cause she doesn't show up on time, and she texted me and said how come I'm not getting any patio shifts? I said, cause that shift starts at three and there's nobody there waiting, just holding over till you decide to get there. She didn't ever say I'll be there at three, nothing. She just was like okay. She was like, oh, okay, that's good. Oh, I get it. That makes sense. Oh, I ain't mad at you.

Speaker 1:

All right, talk to you later.

Speaker 2:

I expected her to like at least try and like something, come back Nothing. You got to respect that a little bit. No, that's how she is, though I mean, that's just that's the, the person she is, I guess I don't know. Did you see this uh, uh, the speaking that cause you said something about like her? Like I said, she's you know, at least she admits what she does, or knows what she does, or whatever. Did you see this guy that, uh, that did the undercover stuff in Indiana with what are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

So in Indiana, this guy, he's in Indiana and he's what is it? Marketplace? So they're having problems. For some reason, they're having problems with this Indiana, they're having trouble with the marketplace. So, with the marketplace, then they put out a secret undercover police basically to go in and answer these ads. You know, answer these ads that are, you know, questionable. Yeah, something I don't know exactly what, what it is that it they're they're doing exactly like what. I don't know where it is coming from specifically. But, yeah, they got these secret undercover cops, or whatever you want to call it. And he's undercover cops are they're doing, uh, uh, answering ads for people selling stuff on marketplace.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so they go to this guy and something goes wrong the whole time. Whatever goes on, cops end up shooting them. Okay, they're going to buy a PlayStation. If I remember right I think that's what it was it was a PlayStation. So they go to buy this PlayStation and they end up shooting them, of course, like their families like all up in arms about it and the whole thing like like, oh, you know, he wasn't trying to kill them, that was just so, it was just like he must have thought he was going to get robbed or something to that effect. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So the police enter the freaking, they enter the the um footage that I guess they had like a drone footage of it as what it was. So they put this, this video, out to like try and basically clear their cops. You know what I'm saying. And this dude, straight up, literally just takes and fricking takes it. The guy turns his back, so the cop comes up and he talks to him for a minute and as he's talking to him, the fricking, you know, he says, oh, everything's in there in the bag, and he walks behind him, pulls out a machete, dude, and swings it like tries to take his head off with this machete. And it cop, I mean, good enough that he freaking, he, he ducked, he was smart enough to duck, I guess, but yeah, he freaking, he basically takes off it like tries to take off his head. And they and they released a video and the family's still talking about trying to get here it is right here Police say he suddenly reaches for a machete to attack that undercover officer.

Speaker 2:

Video from a police drone shows the melee but ends before another officer shoots and kills Richmond A suspect attempted to rob our undercover officer and attacked him with a machete style weapon.

Speaker 1:

I was a devoted father.

Speaker 2:

Richmond's sister says Shahad had a young son and a baby on the way selling the game console to help his kids and she believes that Shahad thought he was being robbed and never heard police announce themselves. My brother wasn't. Yeah, she's so full of shit. Come on now. The police never announced him that dude had his like he walked behind him, right.

Speaker 2:

Pulled it out sneakily and tried to swing at him at the back of his neck, and he aimed right at his neck, like you've seen that video, like swiping right at his damn neck, dude. And then they shot him, him. And they're like. The families are like, oh, the cops shouldn't have done that, they shouldn't have killed him, they shouldn't have. I mean, god damn, he almost. And then she tries to say that he had his sheath on it, which I don't know if he did or not. But would that even make a difference that you're swinging like he did? No, I don't know, that thing will break right through it. I would, would think, right, it would hurt you for sure, regardless.

Speaker 1:

And if you hit somebody in the neck with just like a blunt object like that, you're going to kill them you could, yeah, let alone a machete.

Speaker 2:

That thing did you see that thing dude? And that cop, I'll give him props. I don't know how the hell he had eyes in the back of his head dude. He ducked this on time, just in time. That thing had to have been within a half inch of his freaking head dude. That was wild. And yeah. So they're saying oh, innocent, innocent. The sister, I think, is who that was, that was on there.

Speaker 1:

So the sister, you know people want that to be true, but you know I'm saying like a family member would want it to be true, like jeffrey dahmer's parents probably are, like he didn't need them, people, you know yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, that's just crazy, I mean. But the police released a video now and I don't know if I'm not sure if, after the fact that they still say that I know they were saying it at first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you got proof in your face From what I understand.

Speaker 2:

They released a video and went oh yeah, here you go and like, released it, Wow, which is good. That way it stops the uproar that was in Gary, indiana. That's not that far, pretty close Michael Jackson's stomping around. That might be one of Michael Jackson's descendants Trying to wipe off heads.

Speaker 1:

People are crazy, man. Can you imagine if they didn't have footage of that shit? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what would you do? And it was weird that they had drone footage. That dude didn't notice a drone over his head and they got some nice drones now. But don't you always like hear them, or no?

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, they're quiet like that, you think man, we know technology is just so advanced, how it just changes every day. The ones we seen, probably that mother bodies have shit, or high enough where you didn't hear that that's true.

Speaker 2:

If you go high enough, you might not hear it. Am I or, if you like, gary indiana's probably got sirens going all the time, so you just don't hear it over the sirens, gunshots and shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you didn't hear it I was thinking about it like the other day, because you know how we've been, because all this like racist stuff that's went on and you know they accused trump of being racist and all the different things that they've said, the different, like when they said that north carolina thing, but they cut it. So did he? Did they completely cut out where he said I'm not talking about the white supremacist, they should be condemned. Like they completely cut that off and say the rest of it. But all these different things where they say Trump is racist and and his history is definitely not, and that. And actually your buddy yesterday was, uh, what was his name? John, john, uh, jones or whatever. He was fricking uh, doing the Trump dance. He's Mr Trump guy, gave him the belt and everything he's. He's been in that black culture his whole life.

Speaker 2:

But I was thinking about it, you know, when I was a kid. I mean our parents were kind of racist. Our parents were Like the older people, but like us kids, nobody I knew really was Like the people I grew up where I was around. Then I started thinking like the TV shows weren't even racist. Are you crazy? No, not really. Like the movies that were coming out, not the tv show. Now, I'm talking about late 80s. I'm talking about late 80s, early 90s. They weren't racist. Archie bunker, wasn't? That's before. That's 70s. That's our parents generation. Yeah, you're not wrong about that, but that's our parents. Jukes a hazard, wasn't? No, not dicks. What was racist about dukes? A hazard, oh my god. What was racist about dukes? Hazard, I didn. What was racist about Dukes?

Speaker 2:

of Hazzard oh my God, what was racist about Dukes of Hazzard? I didn't see nothing racist about that. Yeah, I really didn't. I mean like the Cosbys were like the number one show in the country, in Living Color, was killing it. Back then I mean people weren't like the race thing was not a thing. The jokes weren't. I mean some of the jokes had some especially in a living color were kind of racist.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was going to say. It never stopped. The racist jokes are always there and they're still funny. I mean they're funny.

Speaker 2:

That's just all there is to it. They're still funny. But then you look at Breaking. I love that movie. I don't know if you even knew what that movie was breaking or or, come on, did you know what it was? Or beach street, but if you remember, like that was a movie that was about young inner city kids that were fighting the system and the big money corpse and stuff like that type stuff. But it never was a race baiting thing, was about the people with money and the poor people. That's all it was about. It was never about like the actual race of it, that shit all. Like they brought that shit all up like later. All that stuff came about later. We had like a good solid 15 years where that really wasn't an issue in this country.

Speaker 2:

I don't, I don't agree with you, I could be, I could be wrong, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

There's always been racism. There always will be.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying there wasn't, I'm just saying that, like dude, it dominates the news the whole thing with that. Like I said, with the political, the election, like oh, and the Puerto Rican vote, he got this, and the black vote, he got this. That shit's retarded dude.

Speaker 1:

You go to other states like Louisiana, it's still kind of segregated and shit. There's different cultures that are still there's racism there.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying there's not, but in the general population it's far less than what they put on the news. By far less than what they put on the news, I mean it absolutely is. That's like have you seen the Netflix special with that guy that's on Saturday Night Live? What's the one Shea, something Shea, the one that does the weekend report, the black guy in it? He said I was all about the Black Lives Matters movement. He does it in a Netflix special. He said, and I was like I'm getting in on this, he goes. I got there. He said and I was like I'm getting in on this, he goes. I got to, he goes. I must've been late. It was all white women. I mean it's, it's.

Speaker 2:

It's really like I don't think that the racism thing, like even TV shows, all that stuff, seemed to be a little more like. I mean, we all embraced in the color purple and felt for her in that movie. You know, with the kids when she's in that that, uh, what was it? The shed or whatever it was. Remember that that. She's like oh, you did. Did you see that movie? Oh, yeah, I don't remember it. Shit, that was what 30 years ago Murdering them kids in them shed. I'll never forget that. I mean, we all felt for that when we seen it, I mean. But like now, it seems like everything's so race baiting and it's like, jesus Christ, would you stop already, especially with me, the election things. What bugs me the most? Because the race. The race had nothing to do with how somebody voted. A person was voting based on what their personal beliefs were and the truth of the matter is America's so intertwined that race isn't what separates people, like as far as their money's decision rates, and that's an.

Speaker 1:

That's a racism right there that's a fact.

Speaker 2:

Money separates them. Money separates them. Your job. You're voting your job. You know that's you get these people that are doing all these things that are like. I can't believe you chose getting a reasonably priced cheese over women's rights. I'm so glad you got some cheap cheese. Have you seen that, or no? No, but I want some good cheese.

Speaker 1:

I don't care about none of that shit.

Speaker 2:

But this is the thing. So the women's rights they're talking about is the right to kill a baby, like that's the right they're fighting for, never mind the woman has to get in a ring with a man or, you know, share a bathroom with a man. Those rights, those don't count. Shame on women for even wanting those rights.

Speaker 1:

So what? What did trump say about that bathroom?

Speaker 2:

shit he said that's done, he goes, that's, that's over with.

Speaker 1:

He said that immediately and he said that for sure I was like thank god, why are we having this discussion? Why are people talking about that stupid shit?

Speaker 2:

well, that's a simple answer. It's that health and that health and welfare lady, the, the I didn't know that's what she was in charge of. The general the. It's a guy but he's dressed like a woman in a skirt and he's overweight and got a double chin and everything's the thing of health or something. Yeah, that's the one that that's being replaced by Bobby Kennedy now and that's why I said yesterday, I said on on my Facebook I go, I just want to check. Is health and social services? Does that have anything to do with mental health? Cause, clearly that dude ain't mentally right. Dude, I don't care and you know what. It's time this country we start telling people you've got a mental issue, is the problem with you, if you want to, and for us to put somebody like that in charge, clearly there's no possible way that that person income outcome.

Speaker 1:

That ain't a good outcome.

Speaker 2:

No, their mental health can now, and that's who's in charge of the mental health in the United States right now. So if you want to know what's wrong with the mental health, that's a big part of it. And the reason they're pushing transgenderism, that's a big part of it. And why they're pushing it on kids, that's a big part of it. I mean it should never be pushed on kids. It should never, ever, yeah, I mean when you were four you probably felt like a girl.

Speaker 1:

No, I, yes, you did. No, I didn't. My sister's dresses didn't fit, oh shit.

Speaker 2:

But that's the thing that's going on. They're basically saying, you know, oh, he identifies as a girl when he's five, six years old. Let's start, you know, ruining his life so that he can never have kids.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I should bring this up, but remember when dylan started playing with uh, what was it freaking me out?

Speaker 2:

he was like what was it? Oh, stuffies. He likes stuffies and he and he used to love I was like he's gonna change man. You're like oh I remember that shit. I was nervous. I'm like man, damn it, I was, I was nervous, I remember that shit.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't gonna say it, but.

Speaker 2:

I was nervous, I was like man dude, I don't know man and Amanda's like just going oh, shut up, I love him anyways, I'm like, but he's shown to be like he's all boy now, he's a boy, boy now. He just had to get through his like figure it out a little bit. Yeah, he was hanging around with his mama too much, yeah need to put some men in his life go out there play some football.

Speaker 2:

Get the hell out of here that's all he does now sit out there with the boys and play football, basketball, soccer and and the videos that, uh, that thing, that's like it's a stressful thing, that's like the like having a kid and they're always on their device, like that's. Just because I don't. I don't know what that means, I don't know if that's I mean, I know it's not good for him, I know it's better, but that is the way the world is now right, that is what it is and you know what, in that neighborhood and, like you said, he's playing football he is getting out there a lot, yeah, basketball yeah but it's still like, it just stresses me out and but I'm, I'm, you're just conscious, that's what he wants for his birthday too is like a gaming pc, which his birthday's coming up, and he wants a gaming pc.

Speaker 1:

That's what he wants and it's just like, and I'm nervous, like what you do is you hook it up to a bike and, with a little generator, the only way it'll fucking work is if you're pedaling. Hey, I might have came up with something right. There you go, that's a good one for the kids yeah, that would work out stationary, stationary bike with a generator, and if you want to play it, that's how you got to play it.

Speaker 2:

That's how you got to play it. Could you imagine, dude, you're like on a run, like you're going through, like, and you've been going for like a half hour and you're just afraid you're going to run out.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, oh the shit, there won't be no little chubby boys running around.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think that.

Speaker 1:

Well, you hook a battery up to it so it keeps a little charge, you know, so they can get a little break, and then when the battery starts going down, they're like shit and they got to pedal like that.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's just scary, but it is the way it is.

Speaker 1:

I mean our generation, our parents thought we were on the tv too much and we weren't, but they thought we were. You know what I mean, man, I was so skinny. My mom took me to doctors and they said there ain't nothing wrong with him, just a healthy, active boy. Yeah, because I was so damn skinny that's how I was real skinny too.

Speaker 2:

But we had, like when I I remember my first house, the one anthony lives in I remember going down that street and I bought the house and I and the house was the street was there was a mixture of some really nice yards and some ones that were needed some work, like the people weren't really taking care of their yard. I remember like looking specifically back then and seeing satellite dishes on everyone with a shitty yard and I thought I'm not getting cable, nothing, there's no reason. I mean we'll get our three, five and eight with the antenna, save the money and my kids won't be damaged with cable TV and all that stuff. And I felt that way for a while. I think I might have lived there like a year that way, or six months or seven months With no cable, with no cable, yeah. And then I felt bad because we went over. I think her mom, lexa lex and hailey were like enthralled. They're like watching britney and christina aguilera show their belly buttons.

Speaker 2:

If you'd added stationary bike thing so I gave in and I got it. But I mean, and that was TV and I was worried about it. And now here, all of a sudden, now we've got, and Dylan really has, there's some issues I think are from that. There's like a, there's a genuine anxiety when they don't have anything, um, stimulating them Like they have, like they have this, like they have to constantly be stimulating. You think that's a marketing thing.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? Like what you just said, like, uh, no, I think it's because it's awesome.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm the same way, dude, I can get on my device and chill for hours.

Speaker 1:

What I'm saying is is that you think it's a marketing thing.

Speaker 2:

No, it's just just. It just is. It's just cool. I mean it works, that it's marketing, I get it, but I don't believe there's a conspiracy behind it.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, I ain't saying that, I'm just saying somebody is like oh well, you know, the new device will have this and going off of what people are watching.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, but I mean that's just, that's just. I mean I guess maybe it's more, I don't know. I it's just awesome, it's just what it is, it's just like it's. It's compared to what we had as a kid at 11 years old, compared to what we had you look at.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing remember what you just said yesterday when you're looking at pac-man, compared to what you got now.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, and I could spend hours playing pac-man when I was a kid.

Speaker 1:

Right, oh, yeah, hours, I used to walk up to Hills and play Ms Pac-Man all the time. You remember that, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I remember that one and we used to go to Lodger man and play Donkey Kong.

Speaker 1:

Then you go take a break and you go get the big bag of popcorn.

Speaker 2:

But it was. I mean, I don't know, that's just, it's scary, but I don't want to take it 100% away from them because he just limited it. That's all yeah, but I should limit myself too, though. I think I do it too much. I do, I think.

Speaker 1:

I do. That's like having a fox watch the chickens.

Speaker 2:

It's not going to work, but I need to, though I but I need to, though I think I need to like how are you gonna?

Speaker 1:

how are you gonna govern yourself?

Speaker 2:

just set it down. You know what they I was watching? Uh, I was watching a, uh, a show, or yeah, it was a show. I mean troy talked about it and they had this. It was a, it was. They were walking around with these mennonites, but they call themselves beachy amish for some reason, I don't know why but their church, literally they they're like their devices, have like locks and privacy settings on it and their church actually controls it. Yeah, their church has all the passwords and settings for everything, like what they allow that to like one or two people or or, and I think like like maybe he controls his wife's and she controls his type stuff, and that's how they do it, and that way they limit how much time and what they look at on the internet and stuff on their phone.

Speaker 1:

But they have them, but they just look at me and that, that Amish stuff, that or I don't know if it's Amish, I don't know anything about that culture, but it's a cult. You mean it's a fucking cult. Well, anyways, when they're on the job sites now they're running excavators, skids yeah they are. They're called phone, tax-free, dually truck. I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 2:

this is totally different from what I'm well, it all comes down to because my mom obviously lives out in the Amish country, so what it comes down to is the bishop of that specific group.

Speaker 1:

But the rules. Ain't you breaking the rules of the tax breaks?

Speaker 2:

and all that. Well, they don't get as many tax breaks as people think they do. They still have to. The problem is that they don't get the tax breaks people think. People think they don't pay taxes and this, and that it is true. There are things that they do utilize that they don't pay for, such as roads. They don't buy gas or tires, so they don't pay a road tax. So why should we support roads for their buggies, right? They should get their own Horseshit and everything else, right? Yeah, so that is one thing, but I mean, if they have income, they have to pay taxes on it. The thing is is that most of them take their income and put it in the church you know what I mean and then it's tax-free in the church yeah, that's still a glitch and the bishop.

Speaker 2:

The bishop's the one who decides whether or not they're allowed to do this or that, or what they're allowed to do. Some are real stringent, some are a little more laxed. And then there's Mennonites, which are different. Mennonites are they? Basically, they go with modern conveniences, they have electricity, they have cars, they have everything. I don't understand all that. That's like that's. They're Mennonites.

Speaker 1:

They're just, that's just, they're almost English, but they still dress like that and stuff. I bet it was really nice, nice people yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's because they're trying to get you to join their cult. No, they don't want Puerto Ricans. Yes, they do. You think they don't? There's Puerto Rican Amish.

Speaker 1:

I never seen them.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, they adopt kids because they have too much problem with inbreeding and stuff. They adopt kids for sure. You know, I don't know what all races they've adopted, but I there are, yeah that was that one.

Speaker 1:

In that one show there was a black dude.

Speaker 2:

Remember him no, no, what show the amish mafia no, I never watched that one too much. No, no, amanda used to watch the one break in Amish, but never. She watched maybe a little of the Amish mafia, but I don't. I never got into it with her at all or anything.

Speaker 1:

Them dumb asses incriminated themselves on fucking camera. They did. Yeah, that one was in prison I don't know if he still is because of the show. Yeah, they incriminated themselves.

Speaker 2:

I'm discriminated themselves. I'm like what the fuck? So that goes to show you that section wasn't too bright. Yeah well, it's inbreeding, all that inbreeding. I mean they have a. Their life is so much simpler, but it's not bad, probably to them. They probably don't even you know what I mean. That's, they probably enjoy the shit out of their lives, you know, I mean I'll tell you what them boys, them was out there working man, they work.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I'm working, motherfuckers oh yeah, that's what they believe life is about. Or the hard days, work and give all their money away. The way they don't. They don't give all their money away. I don't know how it works exactly, but they live good because I know they have, like when the, when the daughters get married and stuff. They give them a bunch of money and stuff. They must have it from somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't know how they got.

Speaker 2:

They got money. They all got money, all of them. They should they work like dogs. Yeah, they all got money. So I mean it's I don't know they ain't giving it all away, because they all seem to have money.

Speaker 1:

They got those houses Because they all seem to have money. Those houses are big that they build. And then they say, go get a hammer. They don't stroll to go get the hammer, they run. Yeah, they run back, tripping over everything but they don't run.

Speaker 2:

They don't play Well, they're probably working with their dad too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they probably get beat at home if you don't hurry up.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean like too. Like Dylan's 11. Two like Dylan's 11. He runs everywhere he goes, and most of those guys are 12 or 13 too.

Speaker 1:

No, these guys are in their 20s. These guys run man. I'm telling you they're not. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

No, they're workers. I'm not saying they're not. Their efficiency ain't good. They're hacks. They're real bad, like in our big buildings we do.

Speaker 1:

They're real bad. If they was shown the right way, they'd be awesome. They just do it. So just the only thing in their head is fast. You know what I'm saying? That's what it is. They're there to make money. I get it, but still they get kicked off jobs because they do sloppy work. But what I'm saying is, if somebody showed them the right way and that speed they're going.

Speaker 2:

I believe they've been shown the right way. They just don't care. They're just trying to make the money. I think they've been shown the right way. Their houses look pretty good you know what I mean. But they're just out there making money. We do them like they don't give a shit. We have there making money, we do. We do them like they don't give a shit. Like we have walls that are off. Like they don't check the crown on shit walls are just like, yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 1:

I got videos actually of houses that I've been in that they've built how crooked the framing is. Oh, it's bad. Like we've been to hotels. The walls are like this and then they got scabs in there so they go catch the wood and shit and I'm like I mean the drywall, I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're rough, for sure, and that's. We've done a lot of hotels with them where they'll come in and frame up the hotel and then we come in behind them and it's, it's bad. It's almost always pretty bad. Yeah, you're scabbing in wood, that's why I?

Speaker 1:

laugh because you always see all these like things that say amish build, it's like good luck with that you know you go to these new houses and shit and they really do water down that concrete so bad it probably pours easier. Yeah, a lot easier. Yeah, if you was a laborer, you'd be like, thank God he wet it down, yeah, work it hard. But if you're a contractor or a homeowner and you know anything about concrete, you'd be like that's garbage. But whatever.

Speaker 2:

I wish we'd added some water to my concrete. Oh, yeah, about three yards. Yeah, you got robbed. I think I did too. That shit bother bugs me every day too. I'm looking. I gotta get that fixed at some point, but I'm too far in right now. Yeah, I think you got robbed for about a yard. To be honest with you, I think it's at least a yard, maybe two, but we only ordered three yards at the end.

Speaker 2:

It's got to be at least a yard and a half, though it was a lot, Because I caught rid of that angle and I couldn't get high enough and I filled it back in with stone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't understand it when it, when it spit out.

Speaker 2:

I was like there should be a lot more in that truck. I have a video. I told you when we, when the truck gets there, there's, all there was left was that little corner. How is that possible?

Speaker 1:

there was not no three, would you order three, right, yeah?

Speaker 2:

and he told me to order two and I ordered three right, doesn't add up, drives me absolutely in nuts. I'm glad that wasn't our fault though well, I mean I'm not saying it wasn't your fault. I mean I'm not saying that, I never meant that and I want you to get misconstrued I should have said five yards, when you only need a one.

Speaker 2:

Do you see the awesome shirt, my, that my daughter bought me? Uh-uh, purple rain, purple rain, my prince shirt rocking that today she bought me and I don't ever wear it anywhere because it seems a little gay. But I do love prince and I do like I. I went to see purple rain like 20 times in the movie theater, like 21, 22 times, something like that, back when they had it at lorraine twin cinema and you said you what?

Speaker 1:

you didn't wear a shirt because of why? That makes me feel a little gay now how many times did you go to the movies? Watch that 22 times, but I didn't but a shirt because of what that?

Speaker 2:

makes me feel a little gay now. How many times did you go to the movies and watch that? 22 times. But that's how it was back then. No, all your musicians were homos. Look at the who said he was homo. He's got to be something, ain't?

Speaker 1:

right with him. Ain't never, nobody ever said that. Nobody came out and said he was queer.

Speaker 2:

But was queer. But all those guys were gay, like that, like all those hair bands.

Speaker 1:

Everybody was like in leopard skins and tight stuff, like it was a feminine look, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying gay, now they always had the ruffles and shit like yeah, no, in fact, in this shirt he's got the ruffles on the ruffle shirt I've never. There was no allegations of him being no, he had that carmen electra thing going on too and all that. Yeah, there's a couple of them, but yeah, I mean I'm just saying I feel gay wearing the shirt, is all I'm saying yeah, and how many times you go to the movies?

Speaker 1:

it's one or two times, I didn't feel gay done.

Speaker 2:

I was only like 13, 14, not even that, maybe 12, I don't know i'm'm sure gay people don't feel they're gay, they're just gay.

Speaker 1:

That's what you said.

Speaker 2:

I think gay people feel gay. That's what they're trying to say. That's the whole thing is. They say they feel gay. They don't say that?

Speaker 1:

Who don't say that? Gay people? What do they say? Nothing. What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

no, they say hey, but no, they just develop a lisp yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know how that is. We've seen it personally here. They just get a lisp yeah, you get a lisp, and then your wrists look like it's broke.

Speaker 2:

You think I should walk around in a purple rain shirt with a lisp and see if people treat me different. Oh yeah, they'll walk away from you or they'll flock to you one or the other. I do love prince, though. I think prince is one of the greatest musicians of all time. Honestly, that's a good question. Yeah, I, I love prince, always have loved prince, and 22 times. Yeah, oh yeah. Well, you remember back then at lorraine twin cinemas they had dollar night on mond and Wednesday, remember, and they held it over like 25 weeks or something like that. It got held over when it came in it was always packed every time you went there.

Speaker 1:

That was the most ghetto movie theater I went to in my life, but I used to go all the time, all the time, it was a dollar.

Speaker 2:

It was a dollar on Monday and Wednesday, so of course it was ghetto. Everybody's screaming and yelling.

Speaker 1:

I told you he wasn't gay when he had that love scene.

Speaker 2:

No, they're yelling at each other Like you'd have them yelling like Joe and Toe's got a big ass, or you know what I mean. They would just yell dumb shit.

Speaker 1:

No, that's what I'm talking about the Prince one. There was a love scene and they screamed. See, I told you he wasn't gay talking to his friend.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy Smoking in there and shit People would be smoking. Me and Danny got kicked out of there one time for smoking. Danny put his damn cigarette out on that side all carpeting stuff on the walls. I'm like Jesus Christ, danny, so I couldn't go back there for a while. Thank God that was after I had seen Prince enough times. Yeah, you know, probably was after I had seen Prince enough times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, probably had it word for word and shit. Went home and just thought about it. Oh I loved Prince.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I loved that movie. But I would go over there, I'd push carts at the shopping center. Back then that's how I made my money, because my mom didn't have money to send me to movies or nothing. So I'd go over there and I'd push carts and, dude, I would make some bank. I mean, you're talking like that's like 85, right around there, 84, 85, 86. I'm making 30, 40 bucks a day for a couple hours pushing carts at the grocery store. I just go over there.

Speaker 1:

What about collecting the bottles?

Speaker 2:

You remember that my mom used to do that. I never did that. My mom used to do it, though I never did it.

Speaker 1:

It was a 10-cent-a-bottle.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember that we used to just steal the receipts out of Convenient. Yeah, that's nice If you dumpster-dived behind Convenient, they had the receipts that you would come in Because, remember, you'd take them in. You'd take the bottles in and they'd give you the paper with the amount of money you had. Then you go to the counter and you get your money. Right, you go to the counter and get your money and then they would just throw them away. Nobody would mark them, rip them up, nothing. So me and Danny and Brian Shepherd, we would dumpster dive, grab them and go in there and get whatever we needed. Then they caught on and started ripping them up and stuff. But yeah, that's how we used to get it going, the good old days that was when pop was good tasted, so much better bottle.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a big pop guy. Anyways, yeah, my stepmom was a pepsi. Like she loved, like she would get those, the tall pepsi like where you got to peel them off, like she'd get those. Like I remember her having those like stuck a few stacks in the corner.

Speaker 1:

Six pack of Coca-Cola bottles. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a big pop drinker too much, and when I did I wanted Dr Pepper because we weren't allowed to have it Like my grandpa would have it hidden in his room. So it was special when you got one. Yeah, it was like so to us it was like ooh.

Speaker 1:

So now, when you drink one, it's like it brings back memories.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it brings back memories. Oh yeah, it's a treat, for sure, a hundred percent. No question, that's a treat to me, and I like cherry Pepsi too. But once you have a cherry Pepsi it kind of tastes like Dr Pepper, honestly.

Speaker 1:

I told you about it. The other day, when I went to the store and I seen a six pack of cherry RC, I said I'm going to have to get that, was it good?

Speaker 2:

Oh, it was amazing, was it? Yeah, I never liked RC. Oh yeah, I never liked RC. That was Rowdy's drink. Only because that was his initials. So he loved it because that was his initials. He was an RC drinker, and I know I mean he won't admit that's what it was, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

Speaker 1:

I'm 90% sure that's what it was. It's like one of that, like I said, certain things you ever eat, something you just don't eat, and then it just brings back memories.

Speaker 2:

I'll give you a perfect one. And that's a good time to bring it up because Thanksgiving's coming up. So when I met Jen, she always did Thanksgiving at her dad's house. They do a wonderful spread. It's nice. They got a nice living room and they'd set it up to kid table, adult table, all this stuff always real good food. Everybody cooks good stuff and it's. It's a great Thanksgiving and it's fun and I've always enjoyed it. The whole time I was with Jen I loved it. It was great. Then we get divorced.

Speaker 2:

My mom says, oh, we should come out to her house for Thanksgiving Me, Amanda, Mike, we all go out there. Holy shit, dude, I forgot that my mom was the freaking. She's the boss. I mean, she's, there's nobody fucking with that food. When I got, when I bit into that and I hadn't had it, you got to remember at that point, probably 14 years since, I had my mom's Thanksgiving dinner, homemade stuffing, and I mean just banging, I mean just straight banging deliciousness. I mean it was like it was. It brought back memories, like I didn't even know I had. You know what I mean just lit into it. I'm like man, why was I going over there all them years? You know? I mean I should have rotated or something, and then and it well, and it probably didn't help that the year before I did Amanda's Thanksgiving with her family and they, they get the giant Eagle kit, bring it home. I'm like this is not Thanksgiving. I was mad.

Speaker 1:

Damn.

Speaker 2:

You put her out there like that. I was like what is this? That's how they do it, though, that's what they do. They get like the little kit, they bring it home, they eat, that's it. I had never, amanda, had never done that like sit at a table and do the whole like that's how we grew up. You know what I mean, right, but yeah, that's one for sure. People have different.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I guess you would say uh, traditions oh yeah, that's like joe, what did?

Speaker 2:

like he's italian. Or uh dale, like my grandma that was over on 44th street. They, their christmas was spaghetti. You know what I mean, which was weird to me because we had never done that. You know what I mean. But that that's what Italians that's. They do spaghetti, but it's not like, it's not like our spaghetti. I mean they're like they're starting with tomatoes, like they make their sauce there. You know what I mean. It's Christmas. You make it right. You know what I mean. That's the way you do it, but it ain't. You know, I never did like's, just always didn't sit well with me. Every time I've had it that way, I'm like I want my to me. Christmas is our second Thanksgiving. That's how we always eat. Maybe you throw in a ham or a roast beef or something, but usually it's your second Thanksgiving. What do Puerto Ricans? You guys have rice and beans at Thanksgiving. Hell yeah, you crazy.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, you guys have rice and beans for everything yeah I miss it, because it ain't been like that in my life for a while.

Speaker 2:

Your sister don't do nothing like that really, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't go there why, I don't know. She invites me every week. I don't go every sunday, but for thanksgiving, oh yeah, she'll invite, I probably won't go, why wouldn't you go?

Speaker 2:

well then, don't cry about it. Who? Who says I'm crying about it? You kind of did.

Speaker 1:

No, I didn't Sounded like you were crying. Don't cry about it.

Speaker 2:

You're like I ain't had it in forever. What rice? I said yeah, do you guys have rice and beans with everything? You said I ain't had it in forever, I wouldn.

Speaker 1:

I make it myself if I want to. You said you was making red beans yesterday. What?

Speaker 2:

happened.

Speaker 1:

I was going to man. I came here and I looked and I already had it all in my head what I needed to go get and I was like, yeah, why do you focus on red beans and stuff?

Speaker 2:

Why don't you focus on Puerto Rican rice and stuff? Because I like it better. You like red beans better, like that Louisiana style? I do too, if I'm being honest. I do too, but I like Puerto Rican rice like my mom used to do when I was a kid. The woman that lived across the hall or something or somebody she knew, taught her how to make it, and it was soupy, though. They would do it kind of like the stew meat at Rainbow's, you know that type of stuff and then pour it over the rice. I like that better than just like the dry rice and beans that everybody usually has. It's not my favorite the dry. I like it when it's soaked with the beef stew and all the good shit or the baneen or whatever it is. Yeah, so you're going to your sisters for thanksgiving? Probably not. Why not? Because I Probably not. Why not?

Speaker 1:

Because I don't go over there.

Speaker 2:

That's family you got to do that. That's once a year to go to. You were just over there anyways, not too long ago, yeah, somewhere, yeah, I was talking. You were talking to your nephew or something over there. Like a month ago, I think, a month and a half, I think. You were just there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you'll remember me and Johnny went over there look at some stuff. That was it. No, well, you were there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, outside looked at some concrete work oh, you guys doing concrete over there for not this year spring, I gotta get. Give me a price on concrete. Tell Johnny, I need a price. I'm gonna draw up a slab. I need it for like a pole barn type deal. I'll give you the measurements once I get it. All the measurement? No measurements. Okay, what else we got to talk about, man, I don't know. I don't remember what we went through because I was sitting there trying to write it all down and got sidetracked and sidetracked and sidetracked, yeah I mean that we obviously the tyson fight we talked about.

Speaker 2:

I want to talk about the machete guy, jd thomason getting his charges dropped. Congratulations to jd sucks that he lost his election, but I think that uh Lost his election, but I think that was it At least we know a good lawyer now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what he's going to do. I was thinking you know what. Nothing anybody does is any of my opinion. But I think he would love like after the podcast I had with him, I think he'd love doing what that Justin does. Like after the podcast I had with him, I think he'd love doing what that Justin does, or maybe even getting on that. Getting on that like maybe like an Ohio, like Innocence Projects I think he should do something like that. I think that would be right in his alleyway.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but do you? He's still got to make money. Do they make money? Probably not. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that's a, unless you got a firm and then you do that on the side or something. I mean, maybe if you get big like that, like you get a big enough, you know, and then you do something working underneath you where you're still making money, and you could go travel and do that kind of shit yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's almost a charity thing and from what I know, it seems like charities make more money than anyone else.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, especially in the nonprofit ones. Right, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah charity yeah, non-profit. He'd probably make more money doing that than he would in the private sector. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how none of that works. I think that would be a cool thing for him. He loved it. I mean, that was like when you talk to him about his highlights it's funny, that's what always comes up. I never heard him when he was in here talking about how he liked getting somebody arrested. It was. It was about his criminal defense cases and when he got innocent people out that were arrested for the wrong reason. So I don't think that in his heart of hearts he's really a prosecutor. He's not trying to find people guilty. You know what I mean? That's not his goal in life. He likes that. He said it early on in our podcast. I like that camaraderie, us against the world type of egos. I like that. So I think that. I think it would be a good fit for him.

Speaker 1:

But what do I know? I mean that would be a good future podcast with him to talk about something like that. He said he might come on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said he said he might come on after it was dismissed. So I'm going to reach out to him again and see I want to try and see if he'll get that justin to come on here or josh, I mean to come on here, josh, dubbin I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I just uh, uh. It's probably too soon for him, like he's probably ain't got a game plan yet to find out what he's gonna do.

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, but he might be able to talk more about the case and stuff now because it's dismissed, he doesn't have no like uh orders, basically because they said that, like he does, like his, his uh restraining orders, his or whatever pto orders, his, all them. So his gag order's got to be gone too, so he can talk about whatever he wants by rights, right, I don't know, as long as he don't incriminate himself. I don't know that he would, but I'm just saying that's the only fear there would be, and I don't think that's a fear.

Speaker 1:

honestly, I don't know, I think it's too soon, too soon Too soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, well, it depends on if it's Josh Dubbin. I'd like to find out what he does with this josh dubbing guy. That'd be cool. That was wild, that he was. All everybody was blowing up over there. That like the guy. Like the guy we had on like a week before, I think, like literally like eight days before, joe rogan spending an hour on it that day.

Speaker 1:

I've told you before, Joe Rogan listens to us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's. I say I'm the one who put it on the thing. I said it originally. We say it at the opening of every show. Yeah, I said it that. No, it's on the opening of every show. It's my voice. No, it's mine. I think you're sadly mistaken. Do you want to play it? I think so he's being a cheap ass.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm like damn you heard it here first, john. Roben, john Roben.

Speaker 2:

That'd be me. Yeah, That'd be me. All right, yeah, I think we're in for. I think that's it. We had a pretty long podcast. Actually this time it was almost going on hour and 45, or something like that. What do you think the highlight of this podcast?

Speaker 1:

is the highlight has got to be jd thomason getting no, what is it? Tyson's ass, man, tyson's ass. Yeah, you think so, yeah that's the highlight of shit you ain't got a video of that.

Speaker 2:

That's funny no, I, I can get one, though. The funny thing is the. The funny thing is, though, the funny thing is that I did two pictures. Where's my phone at? Where did I put it at? Do I have it on? Oh, it's right here. I have two pictures that I screen grabbed because I was going to do it and I never did, and I'll go ahead and send them to me right now so that I can put them on here. You'll be dying laughing. That shit was funny as hell.

Speaker 2:

This one is cause um, well, there's all the different means that are out there cause they've got people. The thing that's cool now is you can literally, right now, you can go on and with like an iPhone, and you can literally like just grab somebody out of the picture and you don't even like, you don't even have to like crop it or nothing, you just basically press and hold it and then, like, the whole background drops off. Like it's amazing what they can do now with the, with the iPhone and as far as that kind of stuff. So they're just grabbing them and putting them all over the place. You know what I mean? I'm trying to remember what her name is now. I don't even remember what it is Morgan, something, morgan.

Speaker 2:

But I posted these two. I had these two pictures and the reason I had them I was going to put on here who wore it best. So I'll put it out there for you For the who wore it best. So I'll put it out there for you For the who wore it best. I meant to do that. That's one of the things I got sidetracked on, I guess, evidently. How do I get to the right? Why does it do this stupid shit? That's the wrong one. That's why there we go gmail. I need to find out a way to just take it on my phone and just be able to put it up here. That would be cool. You know what I mean. All right, so this is, this is what it is. So the question is who who wore it best? Okay, so there's this one which is, I think, what's her name? Morgan something. I forget what it was On the red carpet, or this one, but the best is that he's going to Canes. But the best is that he's going to canes, so that's our question who wore best.

Speaker 2:

We haven't done a question in a long time. That's funny shit. So, girls, yeah, why would I? You know it's funny because I put uh tyson's ass out to go find that picture so I could have it for it. And the first one that comes up is this Raising Cane's one, where he's walking into Raising Cane. The next picture below it is that chick and I'm like, well, her ass is out. I guess that's what like it picked that. I guess what was the thing on his back? Muscles that was in the center of his back, that was just like a muscle Muscles that was in the center of his back.

Speaker 1:

That was just like a muscle. It's a fatty tissue or something. I don't know Fatty goo.

Speaker 2:

It's not a. It's not a, it's not cancer. She don't think. You don't think you should go see a?

Speaker 1:

doctor about that. I'm sure he's been a bunch of doctors lately.

Speaker 2:

Well, didn't he say, like when they saw, when they like in July, that's why they stopped it, or something. You got real sick, or something. Yeah, they said something to that effect. All right, yeah, I think that's all we had. I'm trying to think if there was anything else I wanted to bring up.

Speaker 1:

I can't think of anything. Every time we get off, you're like, oh, I meant to bring up yeah.

Speaker 2:

I did the sickness. Me and Amanda were talking about that last night. Everybody's got like pneumonia, like her dad who was like coming over visiting and going to work every day and all that stuff. Like a month ago was like apparently I have pneumonia. Because he didn't feel good, he ran to the doctor, had pneumonia. Then all of a sudden I'm hearing everybody's got pneumonia. That's why everybody's sick is. They all got pneumonia and Dylan ended up he had to go get an x-ray looking for pneumonia. So I don't know. So everybody be careful out there. Keep people from coughing on you. I've been coughing all week, have you? You probably got pneumonia. Mike, I'll tell you what. When Mike had it, I wouldn't have known. I mean he had a little cough but it wasn't like he was walking around. I'm like I always thought pneumonia knocked you on your ass. He's just walking around, going to work every day, coming by, visiting, like eating, I mean it's just nothing. And then it turned out he had pneumonia. So you may have it. It's possible. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I'm tired. No, that's just being lazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm lazy. All right, I'm ready to get out of here. You got nothing else that you want to add to it? Mm-mm, nothing, nope, All right, well, we're getting out of here. What else do you do? We should run this real quick, this little ad, for do we have that going? Let me see Does that work?

Speaker 2:

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