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Don Foose's Musical Journeys, Stage Shenanigans, and Plant-Powered Transformations
Join us for an unforgettable conversation with the legendary Don Foose, the dynamic lead singer of One Life All In, as he shares his journey from the hardcore music scene to a life of health and spirituality. Discover how a single encounter with John Joseph of the Cro-Mags inspired him to embrace veganism and raw foods, and how that transformation is chronicled in his book, "Raw Life." Our discussion is sprinkled with personal stories, from the chaos of inviting fans on stage at concerts to the life lessons learned from spiritual teachings and the benefits of plant-based living.
Experience the wild tales of rock star adventures, from Foose's early days with The Spud Monsters to their electrifying European tour with Biohazard. We explore the intersection of music, professionalism, and creativity, highlighting pivotal moments like the South by Southwest festival. Foose also offers insights from his book "Motivate Me," combining life lessons with personal anecdotes, creating a tapestry of resilience and passion that fuels his career. Throughout our conversation, we touch on the importance of balancing personal and professional life, staying grounded, and pushing personal boundaries.
Laugh along with us as we recount unexpected moments of humor and camaraderie, whether it's the surprising popularity of tie-dye shirts on tour or a hilarious case of mistaken identity among band members. Dive into discussions on embracing diverse musical influences, challenging preconceived notions, and the joy of genuine music appreciation. With a mix of humor, inspiration, and a touch of philosophy, this episode promises to leave you motivated and entertained, offering a glimpse into the multifaceted life of Don Foose.
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Speaker 2:They say people that cuss are more honest. So I'm honest, motherfucking put the fish away.
Speaker 1:You should be able to find it now to give birthday, not for me. You see it on there. Nothing to it. Okay, let's do it. Come on, I'm I'm ready. I'm ready, I want to do it. I wear thongs. I got what I'm right now, you want to do it? I wear a thong.
Speaker 2:I got one on right now you want to?
Speaker 1:see, give me a geek. Madhouse Bar Talks, baby, that is like shit. If you ask me, that doesn't make no sense. All right, today's special guest is the legendary Don Foose. Hey, what's up, foose? I always called you Foosey.
Speaker 2:Foose, Foosey, Fooseball, the Donny Llama, how does it really get said?
Speaker 1:though Foose, Foose, that's it just Foose. Okay, all right, all right Easy.
Speaker 2:And he is. That monitor's not on, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not really a monitor, it's just, uh, ipad here. Oh, it went out out. What the heck it was? The heck happened there. All right, uh, let me find you, we're gonna do this right on air here. We go right, keeping it pro. That's the way it should be yeah, there we go, okay, cool as it should, should be.
Speaker 1:Hopefully it stays up there live, but it looks good. It's a little delayed. I mean it will go a little, that's fine, but that's, I mean, that's just the way it is. So don foos is the lead singer of the band. All life, all all. One life one life all in, there you go. That's why I brought this, so we can one life all in. And this is for the people that aren't into the heavier. What do you consider yourself? Punk, heavy metal, rock, hardcore, hardcore crossover.
Speaker 2:Um, we wouldn't, you know when we formed this band. It's a project I do in lyon, france, with a bunch of Frenchies, so, um, when we put it together, we wanted to make sure that you couldn't really put a label on it. But generally speaking, you know it's from the hardcore community.
Speaker 1:Okay, I gotcha, yeah. So here's a little, just a little quick uh example. Real quick, we're gonna give people a little bit of an example here.
Speaker 2:I don't know why it's chopping out.
Speaker 1:I don't know what's going on there, so aggravating slow.
Speaker 2:It sounds like the michelin man singing really, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's not how it's supposed to sound. That's supposed to sound like that wonder what went on. That's so weird, I don't know. Maybe I well, I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm loading up our videos and at the same time, and maybe it's too much for my internet.
Speaker 2:Yeah you can check it out on youtube. That particular song was called Letter of Forgiveness, and that's off the Letter of Forgiveness EP that I have right here. So if you check that out, it's one of my favorite albums I've ever done, though, really yeah.
Speaker 1:That's a I've got to say I was fascinated when I met you yeah, years ago, I was a laborer, you were laboring for Maro met you yeah, years ago, I was a laborer, you were laboring for Maroose Brothers. Yeah, and we met and I just I found you to be fascinating.
Speaker 2:It's true, I'm a strange motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Well, I think my first, the first thing that I realized when you were, when you were vegan and my mother had just probably maybe a year in to being vegan, so it kind of was, I was kind of interested in a little bit kind of cause my mom had been doing so much better health wise from that aspect of it, you know. So that that right away got my interest and you were just releasing that book raw, raw life, yeah, yeah, raw life, yeah, raw life.
Speaker 2:I always bring my promo stuff so when we're talking about it people can see the visual. Yeah, I released it in 2014, but it was a lifetime of recipes and digging up knowledge from the great sages of raw life and raw foods and vegan foods and elixir crafters, you know. So I put it all into one book. How long have you been doing that?
Speaker 2:I met john joseph, my friend from the crow mags, lead singer, the crow mags. I met him in 1994 when the spud monsters, my band, I was in at the time. We went on tour with the crow mags. He introduced me to a whole spectrum of life I never knew about. You know he's. He was a strict vegetarian at the time. He was doing martial arts. Uh, he was juicing.
Speaker 2:I never knew the art of juicing. You know putting through fruits and vegetables through a masticating machine that just spits out the juice out one side and then the pulp goes out the other side. And you know, and it was like wow, man, all I ever got was stuff that was bottled, homogenized and, you know, sold in stores and meant to be on a shelf for a month. But he's like yo, we got to drink this within eight hours or it turns to shit. I'm like all right and I drank that, it was just so great. And it's like I knew my life changed once I met him. No kidding, yeah, wow, yeah. He turned me on to Eastern philosophy, eating right, and you know, I just you know, he really changed my life so much.
Speaker 1:That's pretty awesome, yeah, but it changed my mom. I know for sure she definitely got a lot of health benefits from it. But you know now she doesn't need that because now we got Ozempic. So you know you eat whatever you want, just take Ozempic.
Speaker 2:Keep telling yourself that and then in the morning you line up that pill bottle thing it's got like 15 different pills and just take them.
Speaker 1:I don't take pills at all, like I don't take any, like the most I do is, I mean I take a heavy dose of caffeine, I drink a lot of coffee, so I mean I do have a that in me, but, and nicotine, obviously I smoke a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, back in the day, before there was modern medicine, dr Pepper was actually an elixir that was made of 23 herbs and spices and minerals and all this stuff, three herbs and spices and minerals, all the stuff. And you know, through the years some of the uh herbs got uh, thrown out. And then you know things like high fructose, corn syrup and all the crap that you know it's really terrible for you. You know snuck its way in, you know processed sugar and all that stuff. So, like I said, dr pepper at one time was like, just, you know, had real pepper in there and it was meant to chase out, uh, intestinal uh worms and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, kidding, I didn't know that. I never knew that coke was made from a cocoa plant, you know, and it was, you know, meant for many reasons. Ginger ale was ginger that was treating ailments of the body and the mind and stuff you know. So it's good for cleansing and, you know, uh, keeping the immunity up and all that so are you excited about robert f kennedy jr yeah, to a certain degree.
Speaker 2:I just saw a thing with him on the internet, uh, where he was eating at mcdonald's so, and it's like I saw it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's on the plane degree he's got.
Speaker 2:He's got the right idea, but he's not committed 100%.
Speaker 1:See, I'm on a different level. I'm not an extremist of anything, so therefore I'm not an extremist when it comes to diet. I'm not an extremist when it comes to religion. I'm not an extremist, but I am one that I look at and I go okay, you can benefit a lot by understanding this, you know what I mean and understanding that your whole diet could be adjusted. You definitely don't need to be cramming your body full of meat and you don't need to cram your body full of sugar, and you can benefit from, you know, throwing a couple of vegetables in and eating a little less meat. Right, things like that.
Speaker 1:I grew up in it. We really didn't eat a lot of meat in my house. I didn't even know that growing up. I didn't realize that until I was older.
Speaker 1:My grandmother one day made something I really wanted. It was called tostadas. She used to make it. That was one of my favorite things. Yeah, and I had her make me them when I was an adult.
Speaker 1:And she makes it and I'm like where's the meat? She goes there's no meat. What are you talking about? There never was me. I eat it, sure enough. It tastes just like it always did. Yeah, and she goes yeah, we rarely like we used meat to flavor the beans and stuff like that, because that's just how it was, for you know a big family and old hillbillies and you know you just did what you could. So the bacon went in the beans and you know you ate that and that's how we ate. So I've I've always liked vegetables anyway, so that you know what I mean. But I definitely, I definitely want my steaks and stuff like that. I mean I do and I, I mean I do and I mean I don't think that it's horrible to have. I just think that limiting it you know, like in the book Forks Over Knives when they talk about the amount of meat we eat today compared to 100 years ago I mean that to me is where it comes from.
Speaker 2:Well, delicatessens were known because meat was a delicacy at one time. Only the rich were able to eat meat. Yeah, you know, it wasn't something like. You know, you didn't have a taco bell and a kfc up the road and all this stuff available for you know, takeout, you know. So it's like. You know, we have flat teeth. You, you see rabbits, cows, horses, you know. Look at any animal that has flat teeth. You know they're herbivores. You look at animals that have fangs and they are carnivores. So there's scientific proof that, because we have a body fit for herbs, we should be taking them. We have real long intestinal tracts, but you know, animals that have real short intestinal tracts um, they're the ones with the fangs, because meat goes in there. It doesn't have time to putrefy, you know, get rancid or anything, and that's what's creating a lot of these ailments, the diseases the gut health.
Speaker 1:I always hear about the gut health a lot, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So uh, you know, uh, the animals that have those short intestines have the fangs and they have bodies fit for, uh, consuming meat. We don't. We have long intestines. That food goes in there and it just makes its way around the intestines and by the time it comes out, you know, it's creating all kinds of havoc in the body. So we see a lot of heart disease in this world. We see a lot of stuff happening because people aren't educated about this stuff. A plant-based diet equals health. It just does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when my mom first became vegan, one of the things that stood out was my Uncle Dale. I had spent some time with him. He had at the time he had retired from Ford and he was in Kentucky and I went down there and visited him in Kentucky and then come back here. You know he still he bought a bar down here when he retired, so he'd go back to his house once a week or once a month for a week and then he'd come back and I'd go down there with him back to his house once a week or once a month for a week, and then he'd come back and I'd go down there with him the whole time. We're down there he's ribs and steaks and you know he's just that's all he did. And then he you know he was already had had cancer once. Then all of a sudden he ends up with stomach cancer, you know, and then my mom has this go on and starts the vegan, and then I read watch forks over knives. Then I meet you yeah, you, yeah, you know after that, so all that had already happened when I met you. So I I mean I definitely had already had some interest. So that became part of why it was so interesting to me the other part.
Speaker 1:Obviously you're a rock star. I mean you've traveled the world. I mean you really have. I mean in all honesty, I mean at the end of the day you could think of a Bon Jovi or somebody like that, or you know somebody who's got that huge, huge name. But at the end of the day, every musician all they want to do is go travel the world and sing and have people love their music. And you're doing it, I mean, and you're doing it at a pretty high level. I mean that's quite impressive actually. Well, thank you, it started off at a young high level. I mean that's quite impressive actually.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you. It started off at a young age too. In 1989, I joined the Spud Monsters, the band that I had gotten into, and it was pretty intense because I got in that band. You know I played around with other bands before, but that was the first real serious band I got in.
Speaker 2:You know Chris Andrews, the leader of the band. He was our guitarist. He owned chris's warped records and, uh, you know all these other stores. He was a real businessman but he was a real pros pro. So anything he did in life was always really serious and like he really put himself 110 into it. So he said if you're going to join this band, you know it's got to be your religion music. You gotta like really be sincere and serious about this. I said I'm all in. So we were practicing like every single day, sometimes even on sundays. So a huge piece of paper went from the ceiling down to the floor and it was all the songs that the band had, and at that time it was probably like 40 songs, you know. So we would go through just about all the songs, whatever songs we would be playing on the set, and we, you know, there were no breaks between songs unless they had to tune real quick. But it was always hey, let's tune real quick, we got to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because we're practicing to entertain live, so being a part of that was like really cool, Learning how to be a professional. You know doing everything you know. One of my biggest peeves is you go to see a band. The end of the song, it's all silent. Everyone's tuning up, the singer's over there getting some water and nobody's.
Speaker 1:The engineer's out plugging something in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, over there getting some water, and nobody's engineers out plugging something in or yeah, but you know people want to be entertained and they don't want to take the time to uh take a break themselves, they want constant entertainment. So I learned that from a very young age. You know that just stay, stay busy, keep working the crowd. Mention people that you know in the crowd, thank the bands that are opening, thanks, thank the clubs you know for putting on the shows and everything. Mention the promoters, mention the album that you have coming out and all this stuff. So every show, every interaction that I had with the public, I learned more and more how to be professional. And then there was a time when we did the uh south by southwest music festival. Oh, wow, no, that's a big show. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So all the big bands in the area, in the cleveland area that were going to be uh, that had some buzz with record labels, what they would do, all the record labels would come out to this big uh festival. You know a bunch of different clubs would have shows and there was a itinerary hey, this band's playing at this club at this time and then everyone would go to this other club. So we played that and, um, there was uh, somebody, I think it was from atlantic records. They came out to the show and they said, um, you know, they would do seminars between shows. So I went to this uh seminar by atlantic I believe it was atlantic records and they said this is how to be a professional band.
Speaker 2:You know, when we get demo tapes from bands that you know want us to sign them, we want to be entertained, you know. We want, know, we want to be impressed. So he said one time a band sent them this big manila envelope and somebody in the band must have been a really great artist so they painted it like silver and made it into a fish and he said it looked so cool, it had these really cool scales on it. It was amazing. He said I felt really guilty opening the package because it was so beautiful. But at Atlantic records they're getting hundreds of demos every day and press packs from people that want them to sign the band he goes. But my, I was drawn to that first and foremost because it was really professional, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1:You talk about that in your newest book. The newest book that you got is motivate me. Yes, and I've got that one there. Yeah, that's motivate me. Yes, and I've got that one there. Yeah, that's motivate me. Now, and you talk about that in that book and motivate me. It's cool, because I've never seen anybody do what you did with that book. It's wild. So you say it's just a book of inspirational quotes, basically, yeah, but it's not. It's your life story, life lessons too. Yeah, life lessons, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's your life story.
Speaker 1:Life lessons too. Yeah, life lessons, yeah, but it's your life story at the end of the day, correct? I mean, isn't that how you see it? Some of them are.
Speaker 2:Some of them are, and then some of them are just things that really inspired me, and I hope that it can inspire other people as well. So yeah, the book.
Speaker 1:It tells your story, though it does tell Well, not all of them. I'm sure there's still more books in there. You keep some secret in there.
Speaker 2:Not so much secrets, but it's just a lot.
Speaker 1:My life's been quite a roller coaster. Well, you're so. It's wild to watch you on stage. You're so intense, you know, and like the air foosie you know what I mean Like you're flying around.
Speaker 2:It's wild to me because when I met you, you were just like you're so calm, you're so like at peace, it's just it's, it's. I don't know if that's a performance or this is well, the calm before the storm. You know, it's like um, I do my workout, you know, and I boxed for a long time too, I was a boxer. So like I get my workout on, I, I go in intense and uh, you know that thing, I I guess.
Speaker 1:So I don't know why it acts up sometimes oh, does it?
Speaker 2:yeah, doesn't seem like it went out a little bit. Not too, it will, oh, but anyway, you know, I tried to um work out really hard. Whenever I'm preparing to do a tour or even a small run of shows, I want to make sure I'm in the best shape possible because I want to give it all I've got. You know, because when I'm on stage and I'm singing, I really believe in the lyrics that I wrote. So it is an emotional time for me up there, you know, and seeing people in the crowd singing the words that I've written and them believing in it and joining in with me, it really gives me this burst of energy. So it's like it's not like I'm up there just entertaining, pretending I'm some dude from another band. It's like me really feeling it, you know, and uh, that's that's where the intensity comes from. You know, I was inspired by, like Bad Brains and like the Cro-Mags. These bands are were really intense. Yeah, you wouldn't jump out of your skin, as Flea would say. You know, jump out of your skin, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know like when I one of the first things opening up the book was the story you tell about it's Twisted Sister, right? Yeah, twisted Sister, you're going in. You're a kid, right? How old old?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's probably 17, 18, 16, 17, 18 whatever it was in high school, was that richfield then? Yeah, so, yeah. So you're at the coliseum with my buddy, dave nemeth. He was my best friend at the time and still, where's he at now? My boy, he's down in north port florida. That's my dude. Oh yeah, one of my best friends ever, man and I love the guys one of those guys on my one hand that I can call anytime and I know he's there for me, brothers for life. I used to call him scar and he'd call me spike. I had spiked hair and he had a big scar cause he crashed his Camaro, stole his mom's Camaro and crashed it and all this fiberglass up his body.
Speaker 1:But it seems I mean it's, it's, it's so awesome. Like first of all, that story is probably one of the cool like for any 18 year old like that's probably the coolest shit ever.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, we go into the coliseum. We had been drinking all day. We were young, you know that's what people do and statistics is going to be playing and you know, although we were, uh, drinking, I had to piss. It had been a while since we were standing in line like let's find the first pisser and get in there. We get in there, the place is already packed and some hillbilly guys got a jean jacket on with all these patches all over it, like Saxon and all these band patches. I had never seen that before. I'm like, oh, look at that guy. And then he's bent over with his hands on his knees and he's just barfing all over the front of the bathroom entrance. So I was like man, we got to go somewhere else. So we walked all the way down to the far end of the hall and it was a less-traveled bathroom and I went into the stall and I closed the stall and I see these laminates hanging there with a lanyard, you know, and the mag light taped onto it and it said Twisted Sister Crew, with a lanyard, you know, and the mag light taped onto it, what's that? And it said Twisted Sister Crew. It said Stay Hungry Tour and all that stuff on there.
Speaker 2:I was like man, we just hit the jackpot. So we got done pissing. I told Dave I'm like dude, check this out man. I'm like let's go try and get it. You know, backstage he's like I don't know man. And he's like I don't know man. He was kind of reluctant at first. I'm like, come on, man, let's go for it. All right, you know. So we go down there and I show the guy, you know the bouncer or whatever. He's right there and security security guy, yeah, yeah staff and so he sends me through.
Speaker 2:I'm like, holy shit, that's great, come on, dude. And he holds him up. He he's like where's your pass? I go, he's with me. He's like all right.
Speaker 2:So we go back there and I just remember going down this long concrete corridor hallway and seeing an itinerary of the band, set times and and uh, what time dinner was and soundcheck and all this. I'm like wow, that's really cool. And then saw this room, twisted sisters dressing room. We just kind of like there were all kinds of people there media folks, people from the coliseum, bunch of groupies hanging out, whatever people hanging out and d snyder sitting there thumbing through a magazine, just chilling. He's got us all his gear on and stuff like whoa, and he seemed so tall because they realize he's a really tall dude, you know. So we're just kind of hanging around, kind of helped ourselves to some pizza. There was pizza boxes and stuff. We're just hanging around like flies on the wall just watching this all go down.
Speaker 2:And then somebody popped their head in there hey, 15 minutes, guys, or whatever. And they start clearing out the room. I crap, we kicked out. So we followed the roadies kind of to the side of the stage and they went up on the stage and we walked up there too. We're just going for it, you know, say anything. And then eventually the band comes out, t-snare, comes, walking up by me. We're like no way. You know the next thing, you know, curtains come down, he goes out there hello Cleveland, you know. And we're just, and the lights right there, and then, like man, that's the moment I realized I wanted to be a singer. You know, like so you didn't sing before that, or you did? No, not really just into the mirror, jump around on a bed with a hairbrush, you know.
Speaker 1:No kidding, wow, yeah, so that's what made it's a wow. And then and that's cool, because but that story in itself is cool. I mean, any of us at 18 year olds had that experience. That's a great experience. You could have been a laborer the rest of your life and that would have been a great story to tell.
Speaker 2:Well, the cool thing about that story is many years went past since that had happened. I got into the Spud Monsters. We started touring around Europe with huge bands like Biohazard, clutch, propane, life of Agony, you know just big bands all around DRI. So we did a Spud Monsters reunion album in 2010. And we were going to do a big, big tour. We had some festival offers where we were going to be opening for, uh, there was a show we were playing, opening for black sabbath, a show with ozzy and friends that's what they ended up calling it, because I think they're having issues with money. So, um, guns and roses played, you know, mega death play. There were all these big bands, big festival kind of like woodstock. So we end up playing this one and this is in germany, right? No, that was in um, I believe that was in belgium, belgium, that's not germany.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm an idiot, I'm sorry. No, no, we play all over. Germany sounds like like Germany.
Speaker 2:No, germany's like the size of Texas and there's like all these places we play in Germany. We got a lot going on in Germany through those years, but anyway, we were playing this big festival and at the end of it you could see the video. That's also. I wrote about that in the book motivate me. Um, that's in the East Nider story.
Speaker 2:Um, we're on, we're at the end of our set and I started inviting the crowd. I'm like go on our stages, your stage, come on up here. And everyone starts coming up and all the bouncers like no, no, security. I'm like outside of me, don't worry about it. So all of these people are coming up and it just turns into absolute pandemonium. So if you look it up on youtube, the video is called um spud monsters on stage mosh or something like that on stage mosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so at about three minutes into the video, um, you see me inviting all these people and it just turns into holy hell, chaos, man. And um, I'm like this is our last song, isolation, you know, and I scream isolation. And you see all these people and it just turns into holy hell, chaos, man. And I'm like this is our last song, isolation. And I scream Isolation. And you see all these people and then the dude holding the camera, he goes it's getting out of control. Yeah, so then people just start diving off the drum riser on top of each other, jumping off monitors on top of each other In the book.
Speaker 2:You say, you get nervous, then huh yeah, because I'm thinking there's about 400 people on this stage and I'm thinking this is gonna collapse, people are gonna die. Yeah, there's gonna be like great white part two. You know, something hellish is gonna happen, yeah, but it just it's chaos. And right at the end of the song I'm on top of people and I look over and d snyder's in the back of the corner stand behind you know, like a guitar amp, and he's like fuck, yes, that was awesome yeah yeah, so after I went over and there's a picture of me in the book with him what's the years in between that, oh god 1985 or 86.
Speaker 2:All the way to that was, I think, 2012. I have the book right here, so man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so there's the picture.
Speaker 2:I don't know if, uh, you can see. That's after I got off stage and I'm talking to him hanging out, and I told him the he doesn't look so tall in the picture. He's. He's tall, he's probably down.
Speaker 1:I don't know well he's probably getting old. By then he's probably down. I don't know Well he's probably getting old, by then he's starting to shrink.
Speaker 2:So anyway, um, I it was.
Speaker 2:Uh, I'm telling him man dude told him my story that night about how I snuck in and saw them and I was standing on the stage watching him and I was really inspired. And then I was like you know, all these years later, you know, tables turn, you know, and it's like he's on the side of the stage watching me and it was just so cool. You know, I'm nothing to him, but he was just kind of checking out the band that was playing you're probably not as nothing as you think you are.
Speaker 1:I mean, is the biggest fan that you meet, like if you meet somebody right now, if you were to meet somebody and they said that they got turned like, like they got turned on to music because of you and they wanted to take a picture with you, that's not nothing to you, that's a big deal yeah, I I get that a lot, though say people be like oh, that one album or that one song you wrote, you know, really inspired me.
Speaker 1:But I'm talking about the guy that's actually out there doing it now because of you there's, there's some people, and that's always, and they're not. They're not nothing to you and you're not nothing to do. I mean, yeah, it's just not. There's no way.
Speaker 2:You're nothing this night, or no way well, I mean, it's just he probably doesn't remember me, but we, I told him that story. He's like that's a cool story, that's awesome. Yeah, whatever you know, and it was, it was just a part of rock and roll, my rock and roll history. That like was that stood out to me. It was cool, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah have you like as you go. I know like the fame area like at one point was starting to become a thing when you were in spud monsters you talked about in the book with having. I think you were dinner with your dad, I think, if I remember right, yeah, and that was pretty like you know, you were excited, that not excited, but you were dinner with your dad, I think, if I remember right, yeah, and that was pretty like you know, you were excited. That not excited, but you were, you were glad to have your dad.
Speaker 2:Just see it validated all my struggles growing up, all my failures growing up, that I'm sitting there having dinner with them just after our first album came out. I just came back from a european tour. And this group of kids come into the restaurant and they're like hey, you're Don Foose. Oh, my God, we got your album out in the car. I got your album, will you sign it? And stuff. And my dad's like what the hell?
Speaker 1:is this you?
Speaker 2:know, to me that was cool because, you know, growing up I quit so many things. You know I failed in so many respects, you know, and I didn't, I wasn't really serious about a lot. You know I would start things and I'd stop. You know, I never saw things. You didn't love them like you do this, that's it. You know, I found my passion and um, and that's where, you know, you see, the, the kickbacks to sticking it out, doing something that you love and then, and you're just like this is all worth it.
Speaker 2:And whenever you fall into, uh, you know there's pitfalls in any career that you take on. You know it wasn't always like girls screaming on the side of the stage or whatever, and people ask me for autographs. There's also sleeping in moldy basements or something, because you know we can't get a hotel or whatever. You know eating whatever you can steal from a convenience store. There's some stuff that's not so glorious that a lot of people don't see, right, yeah, I'm sure, but you know, but whenever you get that validation right there, you know my dad's sitting there. He's not even understanding. He thinks I'm playing in a garage with some of my buddies. That's the extent of my being in a band. But then he's like he finds out that you know we're on mtv and that we're in europe and people are asking me for autographs and stuff. And then it's like how come, why?
Speaker 1:do you think it is that european is like? In europe you're a rock star, no question, but in the us it doesn't hit quite the same. Why is it that that hard music really sends out there better?
Speaker 2:beats a hell out of me, but it's just the way it is. There.
Speaker 1:You know like once they like you, they'll always like you that's how, yeah, and I think that's true in the us too.
Speaker 2:It's just well, when we started going to europe, we're seeing these young kids coming to the shows and they're buying our stuff. And then, so many years later, we're seeing these young kids coming to the shows and they're buying our stuff. And then, so many years later, we're seeing those kids come into the shows with their kids and their kids are getting turned on to us and they like us too. It's really odd. That's pretty sweet. And then I was in France one time and some old dude with dreadlocks comes up to me. I'm like this guy looks like he's 80 years old. Why is he skating? And this dude comes up to me, goes dude, I used to skate to you when I was a kid. I'm like, oh, I'm really getting old.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what One of the things, too, that makes it for, for you know, I've never been on an airplane, and you're not missing it. So to me, a guy that's been there so many times overseas, and I started to think, like, first of all, the spud monsters thing was, I mean, it's a big deal, it was a big band. It was definitely that's probably the biggest band you've been with, correct? Yeah, I mean, the spud monsters wasn't that? They were pretty big and in that culture we got lucky, wasn't that? They were pretty big in that, in that culture, we got lucky you know, because we were really persistent in what we did.
Speaker 2:You know we would play shows all over the place and just push and push and push and then we ended up our bass player, joe Kilcoyne, ended up getting a uh, got on with some band called mystic and they somehow got discovered by a German record label called Massacre Records. So they signed them to an album deal or something like that. And then Joe was like hey, man, crossover Hardcore, kind of like Biohazard, and all that stuff was just starting to really get big. At that time he's like hey, here's a band that you guys would really like I used to be in the band, but they're really blowing up in in america, and in cleveland most notably. So they, uh, they got a hold of us and said hey, we want to sign, sign you to a three album deal and then come over to europe and tour and you know we'll do the album what was that?
Speaker 1:the first time you went to europe and did that whole deal? I? I know you talk about it a little bit in the book, but yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 2:That's so exciting. Yeah, Just being on that airplane and coming down there with the little thing and they're like would you like anything to drink?
Speaker 1:And I'm like, how much is it?
Speaker 2:And they're like it's free. I'm, how much is it? And they're like it's free. What year is this? That was 1992. And that was originally.
Speaker 2:We were supposed to go to Europe and open for a band called Mucky Pub from New York Okay, I think they're New York or New Jersey and they were a big band in Europe at the time because they had played with Biohazard over in Europe and they were really big. So that tour got canceled at the last minute. We were totally bummed out. So the promoter his name was Carlos Fleischman he said don't bum out, I have another tour for you guys. It'll be bigger than ever. It's this band, biohazard, and they're blowing up on the Urban Discipline Tour. There's going to be a lot of people at these shows. So we're like hell, yeah. So it was like maybe 14 shows, something like that. So we jumped on it and when we got there, our first show was in an airport hangar in Munich, germany. And how many people? Probably like 2,000. Okay, and it was packed in there and we're getting ready to go on stage.
Speaker 2:I tell this story a lot, but I love the story. So Evan from Biohazard goes hey man, these Europeans, they just want to check you out. So just go nuts up there, man, do everything and don't worry if they don't clap, don't worry if they don't dance, they're just checking you out. That's what they're like. So I was like, okay, so we go out there and I won't charge. I'm like you motherfuckers ready or what, and I just go and I dive out in the crowd. And we just went off and the crowd went crazy for us and it was awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:I'm coming off the side of the stage after we're done and I look down the hallway and it looks like there's a big schism going on out there. I'm like whoa, what's going on? And evan's like yo, bro, those people are fighting to get to your merch stand. We're like get the hell out. We look over, there's all these people buying shirts, cds. Our record label made frisbees with the spud monster guy on there and they had spud monsters, beer, spud monsters, potato chips, they had posters, everything. It was so cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so we uh, and do you guys still sell albums?
Speaker 1:Well, or a little bit, or do you get anything from that? Any of it?
Speaker 2:One life all in was going to uh put our latest release on uh vinyl. But the vinyl plants are backed up now because everyone wants to print vinyl now, but very few places and vinyl you know vinyl now, but very few places print vinyl. You know, okay, only a couple vinyl plants that I even know of. So we just put this uh put them out on cd and uh digital and stuff like that, even some cassettes cassettes I know people are collecting those now, too, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1:You gave me the cd so I could listen to it, and I'm like I know it's like handing somebody a Morse code machine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, what am I going to do with this? I don't have a CD player. Like I don't even know where my last seat, I can't even think, like I'm trying to remember, like, like I, and then I thought, I thought about it. Actually, you were on your way here today. I was like you know, I actually have a DVD player, I think down in my family room. Maybe you could put them in the side of your computer too, Not my computer, oh right.
Speaker 2:Well, I have a little thing that you plug into the back and you could just put stuff in there and play them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I used to have them, but now anymore I don't even have that. Now they don't even have that on there. Now they don't even have that on there. Yeah, I mean it's work. Well, yeah, me too, I get it. I mean floppy disks were my jam back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. No, it's. I just always wondered like how that and you know what that was like that. First, you know experience where you're in overseas which you're so far from home for one.
Speaker 2:Well, that was the other thing, you know, like, um, we come off stage and there's these beautiful girls standing there, you know, and they look like supermodels and they're like oh, we would like to know if you and your band would like to come and make party at our flat.
Speaker 1:How many STDs have you had?
Speaker 2:I haven't Listen most of the time when I was on tour, I had a significant other. Oh really, listen, most of the time when I was on tour, I had a significant other. Oh, really oh okay, you know, whenever you're on tour, like for me it's business, I'm not there. I never like, even whenever I did drink.
Speaker 1:Most of the rock stars, though, are like just tearing through pussy. They just are.
Speaker 2:I'm drinking traditional medicinal tea so that my instrument, my voice, will be okay the next day.
Speaker 1:I had a friend growing up that actually was pretty big in country music at one time. He actually sang at the Grand Ole Opry and he sings around here now. His name's Terry Goffey. He sings like right now what he does. It's called Men in Black, it's a tribute to Johnny Cash and he actually sang on stage with Hank Snow back back, you know, years ago. He's an older guy. This is an older. I mean, this is was my girlfriend's dad, actually, when I was in high school. But he worked at a radio station and he had, and he always told me that Blackberry brandy was something to smooth out your throat.
Speaker 2:If you ever have a course, he would say Blackberry brandy would say I don't know, I try it here and there I've always, you know, like I was always into fitness, you know I was always training, boxing and stuff like that. I didn't want to be a part of the nightlife. My band would be in the back of the bus partying, playing cards, smoking all this stuff, and I'd be in the front of the bus reading and talking to the bus driver, hanging out, you know, or or sleeping, you know, yeah, but that's not to say that I lived a boring life, because I saw so much on the road, I saw a lot of stuff and for me, you know, when that bus pulls up to the club in the morning and everyone's all hung over and sleeping back there, I'm grabbing a couple bottles of water, grabbing my camera and I'm going out and seeing everything there is to see in that town and village, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's the coolest thing you think you've seen overseas?
Speaker 2:Oh God, just playing in front of those crowds, seeing these people screaming for us.
Speaker 1:I get that. I know that's going to be amazing, that has got to be amazing.
Speaker 2:But you could see that here if they were here, yeah, but going, going there and and the crazy thing is, you know people inviting you into their homes and making lifelong friendships. To me that's the most amazing thing. I can go to any major city in the world, pretty much like mostly in Europe, and I can call somebody and say, hey, let's go have lunch, let's get together and catch up on old times, and it's like knowing that you can go anywhere in the world and you have friends. That's awesome. To me, that's the greatest thing, yeah that is, I've seen.
Speaker 2:I've seen some weird stuff, you know. We've seen. We've seen crazy stuff. You know, like, for me, one of the highlights being on tour was once when the bus driver was driving. You know, we got this big, huge tour bus. It sleeps 18 people and has lounges in it and stuff. He's like his name is gary. He's like, hey, foos, come take the wheel. I gotta take a piss, fuck yeah. So I'm driving this huge bus, I got this big steering wheel. I'm like whoa and I'm pouring it.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, yeah, this is great.
Speaker 2:So he goes back there and everyone's all back there partying. Gary's like what's up, guys? And he goes into the bathroom like whoa, who's driving the bus? He's like it's cool, it's a straightaway and they all come running up there and I'm like, yeah, to me that's cool too.
Speaker 1:That is awesome. There's cool stuff like that. Yeah, that's my mom. My mom had a, a woman that she liked to follow that did music, and she did it all through crowdfunding. So she wouldn't charge anything for any of her concerts. She'd do crowdfunding. And then when she would go on tour and I wish I knew her name, I just remember her showing them to me but she would go on tour and, just like people, would you know, she'd put out a thing hey, I'm just like people. Would you know? She'd put out a thing hey, I'm going to be in, you know, Boston and I need a place to sleep, and someone would give her a couch to sleep on. And that's how she would do it. That's great. That's where it's at. That's pretty cool. I think, like I remember thinking how cool that wasn't and also how dangerous it could. I mean, you know the world as a whole. I'm one of those people. I believe in the best, in people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. You know like, uh, there's this one girl. Her name is Mary Grebner. This girl, just all she does is go to concerts her whole life. She lives with her grandmother still to this day. She's probably 45, 50 years old by now. But she's just an innocent, loving person. She shows up at our shows from out of nowhere with a bunch of stuff, stuff, gifts for us. She she'll like cut out these little mandalas and give them to me, these little paper mandalas. I'm like, oh, there's another model. Thanks, what a sweetheart you know and she'll show up and she's like I have my car if you and the band would like to go see some sites. Oh, this is overseas, yeah, it's over in germ, okay, but it's like what a cool person you know, what a sweetheart you know, and it's like you meet like that and it's it's everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I would imagine it is. Plus, I mean, you've met, obviously you met people that inspired you, like John, that's something that and I was watching and reading a little bit about him.
Speaker 2:That's an interesting guy, holy crap, we're going to have him on your show here coming up Awesome. He said probably February would be good. So we'll nail down a date and I'll maybe find a you know a place where we can do a book signing for him to. I'll make it you know to where we can fill this whole weekend and worthwhile for him to come out. But yeah, what a great, great person man. We're great. So he changed my life so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's. It's interesting. I mean he it's funny because he was on Joe Rogan and he was talking about you know, obviously he was talking about, like you do, talking about the vegan diet and and the Eastern culture and stuff vegan diet and and the Eastern culture and stuff and Joe Rogan really doesn't believe in I mean he's a meat eater, for sure, he's a. I mean he goes on it. But I mean you can't listen to what you two are saying without thinking, yeah, maybe there's something to it a little bit. You know what I mean there's a. You can't listen to it without understanding that, I know.
Speaker 2:Like I said, there's a science to it. There's flat teeth and there's bangs, and look at the science behind it.
Speaker 1:I don't argue that you're not. I mean I don't know that, I just don't. I mean the problem is is that the problem I have with it is that I just think everything is better in doses.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean it is that's, that's my opinion of everything in the world well, that's why I don't argue about religion, I don't argue about politics, I don't argue about what your diet because you yeah, I just did that.
Speaker 1:I just did an interview yesterday with a guy about you know, wrote a book about israel and could you imagine like in israel, like you know, the palestinians and the israel and and that they feel so strongly about that stuff? It's just I can't even imagine. It's too much. It's too much. There's no reason to be that extreme on anything.
Speaker 2:I don't think I could remember 100 times in my life where I thought I knew it all. And now I realize it. The more you go on in life, the more learn, the more you realize that we're in this material world and it's a place of suffering, you know, and what we could do to minimize that suffering is what we should be doing, you know. So it's like I'm not overly materialistic, I like to live a simple life. You know I'm not. You said you want a tiny home. I would love to build like a 400 square foot tiny home, but I'd like to stay in bay village. I love it very, but, um, you know, the city ordinance is, oh, no less than 1600 square feet to build a tiny home, and it's like I don't want to build a 1600 square foot house. I don't need that. They think that's a tiny home yeah, exactly that's.
Speaker 1:I have a. I have a customer I'm building. His addition is 50 by 50. We put it on his house. Oh, really, yeah, it's massive and actually you and him should probably meet. You would probably like him. He's a music producer, he has a recording studio and things like that. Scotty Campana is who it is, but he sent me a video of a tiny home and it was 1,400 square feet. I go, that is not a tiny house, that's a type, right? Yeah, that is definitely not a tiny home, but yeah, that that's the mentality of it. You know, and of of you know a lot of people. They think that's a tiny home. Yeah, so what was the most for you out of the book? What do you think is the most interesting? So what was the most for you out of the book?
Speaker 2:What do you think is the most interesting? Most interesting thing in the book? I'd have to say, well, maybe all the motivational quotes that have been in there. That's what brought about the book. You know you want to go take a piss, so anyway I'll take this time. Oh, did you hear that flush? He's already flushing. I usually add lube. He just left. I usually add lube to this kind of thing. I'd rather talk, but he's taking a leak right and he's going to be back. That's the flush. I was just talking to the camera up there.
Speaker 1:I was like he's taking a leak, I'm not even going to pretend like I said that Well, I mean like what would you want somebody to take the most out of it Like from that book for you? What would be the most like you want them to get the most out of it? What would you think?
Speaker 2:You know, I think, the philosophical aspect of it all. You know like I always quote my spiritual master, shrila Prabhupada, because he taught me more than anybody.
Speaker 1:How do you say it? I read it, but I never heard of itupada Prabhupada. And who is that?
Speaker 2:exactly. He's a great spiritual master from India. He passed away back in the seventies, at the age of 81, but he was the most selfless, simple person that came and like, gave so much of himself and like all this food for thought that I have, and so many of these quotes and so much of the basis of these stories come from his teaching. So it's like that's that's where it's at, you know, like, um, somebody who lives simply but thinks on a higher platform. That's that's what I want people to get out of the book, you know.
Speaker 1:And it so did John Joseph. Actually know him.
Speaker 2:No, john Joseph follows his teachings too. Okay, so that's both of our spiritual master, our teacher who teaches us about life. Although he's not physically here, his instructions are way more important than his physical presence. So we both, you know, read his books, did you ever?
Speaker 1:live as a monk, like you did, yeah.
Speaker 2:I stayed in a temple for a short time. John did too. John, yeah, he was in hawaii, right, he stayed in the hawaii temple. He stayed in the new york temple for a little while too. What is that like? It's rising early in the morning taking a cold shower. Um, it's gotta be cold. Well, it excites the senses, wakes you up. Uh, it's good for the immune system. You know, there's a lot of, a lot of reasons why you take cold. You know, do you do that now? Yeah, really, I like to hit it lukewarm to start, but then when I, before I'm getting I, I put myself through a little bit of torture. It's good for for controlling the body.
Speaker 1:One time I was broke, the gas was off. That's horrible. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's horrible it burns brown fat, the brown fat, the visceral fat around your waist. It just, it burns it off.
Speaker 1:Cold showers, do Cold showers? Yeah, burns the fat around your waist.
Speaker 2:Burns yeah, boosts your immunity, boosts your metabolism. Read about, look at the Iceman Wim Hof and hear what benefits you get from cold showers or ice baths or doing cryotherapy. I do a lot of cryotherapy. What's that now? What do you mean? You stand in this booth. It's like a big telephone booth-looking thing, like LeBron James was doing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Do you have one of those? No, I go to a place called Restore in Lakewood, okay, and you stand in there for three minutes. All they'll let you do is three minutes, and it goes up to minus 240 degrees and you just stand there and breathe and by the time you get out, your body is frozen. But you feel so good.
Speaker 1:You get out, you know, and that's cold shock, proteins going in and healing your body, so it's similar to taking a cold shower too, a little bit, and it's also similar to doing uh sauna therapy, which is heat shock proteins, so they're both healing, just need to know when and how yeah, I like this sauna. You say the infrared's better.
Speaker 2:Huh yeah, I have a three-man clear light sauna in my house.
Speaker 1:That's what I have too, and I miss like when I was young, I used to go to the gym and they had one in there. Yeah, I say young, I wasn't that young, it wasn't that long ago, but I used to love it. That was one of my favorite. Probably right around the time you met me, I I was probably going to there, yeah, pretty consistently, but it was a regular steam where you'd pour water over the rocks okay, so that's more for um surface sweating.
Speaker 2:I love that. It is nice, I like that. I like steam, steam shower type things too, but at the same time you want the best. I think a far infrared sauna is the best. It heats you from within and pushes out toxins.
Speaker 1:I mean that's what I have at home, but I mean it's not what I wanted, that's just what I have.
Speaker 2:That's great for combating heavy metals out of your system too Heavy metals.
Speaker 1:What if you were drinking? Would that have helped the people in Flint Michigan? Yeah, Really.
Speaker 2:No kidding, really no kidding. You know uh dementias, cause you know people taking uh aluminum-based deodorants and stuff and getting into the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is it? What do you use? So you got an odor to you that that is distinctive to my mom. My mom has it too. Yeah, I don't know what it is. You guys are using the same essential oils, is that what it is? Okay, I mean, my mom, it's something my mom. It didn't happen when she became vegan and, like, started doing that whole thing. And I noticed when I met you, honestly the day, I burn a lot of incense too, so I mean you walk past me and I was like it smelled like my mother smells when she comes by. That smell like an old lady. No, not like an old lady. Now, my mom doesn't smell like my. My mom's a hippie, full-blown hippie.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go, there's essential oils.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, she's a hippie all the way, always has my mom, my mother I don't know if you know my mother's a lesbian.
Speaker 2:So is mine. Mine was too, no kidding, is that true? She passed away like.
Speaker 1:Did she ever go to Kambillion? I don't know what that is. Eggmoon Farms I don't know. Amish country it was like a place for women that would go down there and they would have like a campground.
Speaker 2:Maybe she lived with a significant other who's still in our lives, and yeah, so yeah Ask them if they did.
Speaker 1:I'm curious because that's where my mother lives now. Oh, really, yeah, my mother and her wife. My mother used to be with a woman when I was younger but they weren't married. Of course you couldn't get married, right, right. And then she got married to another woman that she had actually met down there at Eggmoon Farms and Cambilio used to be. Cambilio was like they had cottages and stuff, but they also had a big house with an indoor pool and they had like it was basically a lodge for all women. It was only women. And then Eggmoo Farms was the same thing, except it was mostly tent platforms and things of that nature where they just camped and things like that.
Speaker 1:And that's where she met her wife back then and she's married to him today and they actually, when that all broke up, she bought uh, well, to be part of eggman farms, you had to own a lot of it, you know. I mean you had to own a portion of it. So everybody owned a portion. So they had their portions and bought some extras and then they built a house out there and they've been out there ever since. Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's kind of cool. It's pretty neat where they're at and they're like they're stuck between amish and like mennonites, and it's like cool they're self.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know, they're living off the land and stuff.
Speaker 1:Nah, they got jobs. I mean, my mom is she should be retired, but she won't because I don't know. She just I wish she would. It's, it's much more peaceful. My mother quit her job. She had a job for a long time and quit it oh really, because they told her she didn't like it, they could leave, and she was in the middle of a meeting and then she went back to work. She wouldn't work for a while and then she just went back to work a couple years ago. But I don't, I don't like it. I like what my mom doesn't have to. My mom shouldn't have to work. She works too hard anyways. None of us should have to work. She's got all that land.
Speaker 1:She cuts grass, she goes out there, weeds and I mean, she just keeps her young, though, you know when you compare her to my dad my dad, who, I mean, abused his body, that my dad drank and smoked his whole life and like and not just drink like I drink a little here and there my dad drank like he woke up. I remember going to work with him when I was a kid and he'd roll out into the drive-thru at seven in the morning and grab a quarter miller, you know, and start drinking, puke out the door and just keep going. It was horrible, yeah, but and so his health is not good? It's not. But my mother she's still working, moving around, does good, she's, I know zempic, she can eat meat now.
Speaker 1:She actually had diabetes and they gave her ozempic because of the diabetes, but she was. The diabetes symptoms went away with the vegan diet actually. Yeah, but there you go. That says they did give her a zepic and she does. She does quite enjoy the end because she likes a good corned beef sandwich read the side effects to ozempic.
Speaker 2:It's pretty.
Speaker 1:She goes to a lot of music. That's what I'm afraid of. They're gonna find out that ozempic is like it's a fad, right, and I think it's. It's a horrible for the country to even be entertaining it. And then there's other people that go well, I can't believe it's as popular it's like. Well, I mean, diet pills have been popular forever, so now you have one that actually works, it's going to be popular. I mean that's you know. I mean people are vain dude. They will do anything to look good Except work hard. I know they won't do that. It's true. They won't do that part, yeah, and I don't understand it and I don't get that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, when you read the book I wrote, motivate Me. A lot of people that have read it said I want to do something with my life now, after reading that book, that was the biggest compliment I ever got was, you know, after reading your book, I feel inspired to do something. You know, and that's awesome. You know, if you have a dream without a plan, all it is is dream. But you got to make a plan and then you need to execute that plan. You need to write down a schedule every day and be like four o'clock I'm waking up because the people waking up at six. I'm going to get two hours on them. I'm going to be ahead of the game.
Speaker 2:How much do you sleep at night? I should sleep more than I do, but I get it. I get enough to where I get good rest, good rest. I bought a shiki futon uh, japanese mattress, almost rock hard, but I like a real, real hard sleeping situation. So feel good. I get up, do the cold shower thing, I do my morning prayers and my meditation and yoga and all that and um, it's a.
Speaker 1:The meditation it's more chanting mantras and stuff and that gets the day started I've seen that you said that in a book that that's like part of your like running that system keeps you focused and and running on a on a consistent and I I believe that everybody, if I was running that like do, if I took one month and did what you did, by the fifth week it would just be routine and I would do it and it'd be fine. Yeah, the problem is, if you get a week off, it's so hard to get back to it.
Speaker 2:Like if you ever listened to David Goggins, you know he's pretty intense. He's an old Navy seal that runs these crazy uh 200 mile runs and stuff. He's nuts. But he's a big inspiration to me as well, though, like the way he just talks about. You know he'll talk about laying on the couch and looking and seeing his sneakers just sitting there like mocking him because he knows he should be out running right now, and then he's like he just goes in the mirror and he's like all right, bitch, let's go Time to go. You know you're going to sit around and rot on that couch and he goes out and he does it, and you know it's like hearing people doing that and I wrote about that in the book.
Speaker 2:Whenever I was going through I had a torn meniscus and I was kind of rehabbing my knee. I would go to the park and after my workout I would do a standard workout and then I would finish with cardio running stairs up three flights Really like four flights in the parkway over there by Rocky River Park, there where the beach is, and I basically sprint all up these stairs and then sprint down and do it like 12 times, no breaks, you know, and it's like exhausted man. All right, so I did 12, and then I'm like I'm gonna work my way up to 15. Now next time I did 15 and a little bit more each time. And then, remember, I remember I'm up to like 25 or doing 30, and then, you know, I start saying oh, and then I'm listening to david goggins right at the end of my workout and I'm at almost like I think I got up to 50, and then, you know, geez, yeah, and then I'm listening to him and he's like, yeah, he's telling me, he's, he's talking to me directly in this thing.
Speaker 2:He's talking to me, right, but I'm, I'm, I'm hearing him talk about he's on this 100 mile run. To qualify for this hundred and some mile run, so he had to run a hundred miles within uh, uh, 20 hours or something like that. And he's in mile 70, and he's shitting himself and he, you know, literally shitting himself, shitting himself, yeah, and he's just wrecked. He's got 30 miles to go, but he wants, he wants to keep going, and then he just talks his way through and he just finishes, and he finishes in time. And I'm hearing him tell that story and here I am 50 sets of stairs in or don't even have to fart yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, so I push on and I'm like, if david goggins is shitting himself, I'm gonna push this, you know, and I and I worked my way up and then I got it to the point to where I could do 100 sets of stairs, you know, which like takes over an hour and it's just non-stop running upstairs and downstairs, no breaks. You know, it's just like it's a.
Speaker 2:When you work that hard, you got to put the rust in too yeah, but the thing is, when you're working hard, you got to know that you can always go further, you know. So he's talking about when you're feeling like you're falling out, you're really only at like 40, instead digging deeper and setting deeper and taking your mind to a new level and your body to a new level. And that inspired me that if I had that mindset back when I was younger, I could have, you know, done so much more. But you know, the later we go in life, the more we learn. And I'm not about abusing my body, like maybe once in a week I'll do a workout like that. The rest of the time, you know, I'm doing like good standard workout, getting oxygen going through my body and you never felt like you crave meat at all.
Speaker 2:No, there's so much. It's just a curiosity there's so much fake meat nowadays that like yeah but that's just like. To me that's gross. I mean, don't just don't eat, well, I don't. I don't really like it that much. But like there's like these mushroom steaks, it's just made from mushrooms. Those are good, though, dude, they're amazing. Yeah, those are good, and they're like twice the protein of meat. There's no fat, no cholesterol. It's just straight up great, you know.
Speaker 1:So I'll do that but those impossible burgers and stuff like that, those gross.
Speaker 2:Well, they taste like a real burger, but it's not. But but the fat content's kind of high, but still no cholesterol, you know, and it's like better than eating meat, but that's junk food, vegan food, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that that's part of what people have to. Just like you did just change your complete diet so now you're not trying looking for a turkey or you're not looking for a burger or looking for a steak. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, it's. It's kind of like, I say, with metal studs and drops and, uh, houses and stuff, people are always deciding. You know, they're trying to build a house out of metal studs. I grew up in a house that was built out of metal studs. Believe it or not, really it was built in 63 out of metal studs. Metal studs back then, structural metal studs as all you know, two by four it was all push locked.
Speaker 1:There was a. There was push locks. No screws was push locked. They had like these plastic push locks that held the drywall to the to the metal stud. Yeah, my grip, my mother, when I remodeled her house, I didn't know that. I knew that the house was an had like these plastic push locks that held the drywall to the to the metal stud. Yeah, my grip, my mother, when I remodeled her house, I didn't know that. I knew that the house was an all metal home.
Speaker 1:My grandfather built it from the mill and here in Homewood the houses were built out of two by twos. It's bad. You open a front door and they the walls, shake the windows, shake it's it, shake it's, it's horrible, and probably don't have proper cold air return. That's no, no. Well, most of that was actually underground because they're slabs, so most of that's in the masonry. So that's just all running, uh, you know, underneath underground. So it really, I guess, isn't affecting that. But at any rate, my, uh, my grandfather didn't want that, so he bought what back then was called an all-metal home. So so we had metal cabinets, we had aluminum doors, metal doors, metal windows and apparently metal studs, and I did a remodel in my mom's kitchen and found that out.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that. Oh really, you know it had wood trusses but metal stud walls and it was something that the USS still built in 1963. And it was an all-metal home. But either way, my point is it was built like a houses with wood and I always say that they, they make that simple mistake. They look at it and I'm say the same thing with diet. You look at a meat eater or a carnivores diet and try and replace it with vegan, and that's silly, that doesn't make sense. I mean, nutritional wise, you want to do the right things, but you don't have to eat a steak or a Turkey or whatever it is a tofurkey or whatever you want to it.
Speaker 2:just it's silly. Just eat what you eat, you don't need to go to India and eat it.
Speaker 1:You know, like Indian restaurants, you can eat there all day long and it's, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Well, that was part of my transition is I learned how to cook Indian food when I first got into Eastern philosophy. Yeah, and it was a very famous woman who taught me, so I was learning from the best you know, so it was an easy transition for me you know, I have a lot of friends that are like Indian and Muslim and stuff like that, and I've been to Indian restaurants with them.
Speaker 1:I have one real good friend. That's indian ben, but he's yeah, he's taking me. It's hot, though everything's so hot, it's too hot for me. Yeah, I don't like that heat. I'm a wuss when it comes to yeah, yeah, everything was hot, but it's very good food. I mean amazing food. Yeah, it is. I don't know, but it's it's. Yeah, it's cool, it's interesting. But I mean that's why's cool, it's interesting. But I mean that's why I asked you about the sleep, because I noticed in the book you said that that's the free clinic, rest, sun and something like that.
Speaker 1:You said you have to get exercise.
Speaker 2:You have to get sun, you have to nourish yourself, probably do a good workout. You know there's a little bit of of everything that you know. Like you're saying, um, you have to get enough rest, though. Like if I take my telephone and I run it till the battery's dead, if I don't put it on the charger, it's worthless, sure? So it's the same with these bodies and the same with our conscience. You know our consciousness. You know it's like you gotta air that out a little once in a while. You know, take a nice walk in the woods. You know how do you do that when you're so far behind.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Like me, I'm always in the rears, of course. I put myself there most of the time.
Speaker 2:But it's what you prioritize your life with, though that's the thing you know. We have choices with everything, like I know that I could have come here and talked with you today, or I could have sat around on the couch or whatever and done this, but it's like I want to be productive today, sure you know so you make stuff happen when you see a little window of your day that you can fill. You can either be lethargic and brainless and sit there and scroll on your phone and look at reels all day, or tick tock, but you're just creating a problem yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's useless most of it is, yeah, like in the book I talk about. You know, that damn cell phone. Everyone's so engrossed like I was at the tribe game back in the day and this guy hit the screaming line ball down the left field line and there's this whole row of kids all on their phone and the ball came zipping through and hit the one kid and bounce off them. Two of the kids didn't even know it got hit to them. They're just still farting around on the phone. But you know it's like everybody's got their phone. They go to concerts and they're sitting there filming the concert, you know, and it's like we have to live these lives before we can go home and relive them.
Speaker 1:It's not going away, though I know it's not Unfortunately, it's not going to go away and it and that that's something that bothers me. I that's something that bothers me because I don't know how to deal with it. With the, I have a 12 year old and it's just. I don't know my older kids, that wasn't really a problem as much. There were a lot of texting going on. They were doing a lot of that, so you would see them, like, go to parties and they were texting each other. It's like you're all at the same place and that would bug me. Yeah, but now it's next level, like now. I mean, it's just, it's a part of culture at this point and I don't know how you get away from it.
Speaker 2:I really point and I don't know how you get away from it. I really don't. Yeah, like society's so far gone right now it's it's really sad. You know, like everybody's on social media and it's like they do this all-star reel of what their day was and they take a picture in front of this beautiful waterfall and they take pictures of their food and like how great they look, and then you know their big three thousand dollar, you know purchase for the day and everything, and everyone just sees the highlights of everyone's life and then these poor kids are looking like my life sucks, yeah you know, and then it's just a you know.
Speaker 2:One thing after another. People are falling out, kids are getting depressed or jumping off buildings, hanging themselves, doing crazy shit. What do you think?
Speaker 1:would be the best way to motivate a 12-year-old. Do you have any idea? Love them.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's a gift. You can lead somebody further than you can push them. So you love them and you act in such a way that they want to be like you. That's why I try to inspire people with things that I do, like this kid that I'm kind of mentoring right now. He's like can you help me figure out what to do with my life? You know, and I'm like happy to kind of point you in the right direction, but you know like it's going to be up to you. What do you want to do? What interest do you have?
Speaker 2:He's like I'd like to write a book. I'm like right for 15 minutes a day, review it the next day. If it sucks, sucks, don't use it. Sure, you know, find what you're interested in and do it. You know, and see, I think that you know like I wake up in the morning, I do my, my meditation, my prayers and all stuff and that's what keeps me linked. It's like that's my higher purpose in life. And once that's all taken care of, there's's other stuff I can do. I can focus on my career, my music, all this other stuff writing books, touring, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:I like the quote. You say that this is what I do for me. You got to do what you do for you. Yeah, I like that quote and I've used it a couple times since reading your book. Actually, I like that. That this is what I do for me, because this podcasting is what I do for me, because this podcasting is what I do for me, I enjoy this. This is what I enjoy doing the most. I wish I could get the digital and uh and then technical stuff down a little better. Um, I keep having problems with the the here and there. You know. Look back at Joe Rogan's first 400 episodes.
Speaker 2:It's slowly. You see this. You see a climb. See a climb to where it's like perfect now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You're way far advanced, according to most.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I enjoy it. It's, it's what I like to do, and I and I, when I talk about it, that's what I say all the time. I say this is what, and I and it's me because that's a problem I have with I'm a giver. I really am. I mean I have kids and I have my wife and I and I just and I got employees and I got there's all these different, and I am I give too much to other people most of the time, even though they don't realize it. You know what I mean. I am I'd split up a lot and I and this is the only thing I've done for me in years, you know, and I really enjoy it. Yeah, it's great, it's my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 2:Well, like when, you get on an airplane, they say the oxygen mask is going to fall. In an emergency, take care of yourself, and you take care of your loved one, sure, because without your help, you fall out trying to take care of them. You're no good to help them anymore. You've depleted your ability to help.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you've got to do you. Get up in the morning first thing and do you. And make sure you know I always say start your day early. I get up, no matter how late I work or how late I'm doing stuff. I always get up early and I get at that day. Get after the day right away you know I've always done that.
Speaker 1:I've been that my whole life on act. That's just who I am as a person. When I was a kid I was the only one on saturday mornings like looking for my friends to get up. Like, come on, you know what I mean, that's who I was really.
Speaker 2:I'd wake them up. I'd go up in the room, jump on their bed like wait.
Speaker 1:no, I mean I would be out in the neighborhood like walking around, like when's somebody going to show up? Yeah, right, I mean like there was— I remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, walking around, there's dew on the grass.
Speaker 1:Nothing to do, yeah, nothing to do Everything's quiet yeah. That was me. It's always been me. Too bad we weren't neighbors.
Speaker 2:We'd be out tearing it up, do more than all the other kids by eight o'clock am I've always been that way, though it's all my dad's that way.
Speaker 1:That's just kind of how we're built. I function like four or five hours of sleep, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's. That's. One thing that my father instilled in me, too was a good hard work ethic, because I saw him busting his ass every day, you know, and, um, coming home late at night and still doing stuff around the house and taking care of family and everything. So I got really inspired by Is he still around? Yeah, I'm going to see him Wednesday down in Florida. He's down by Tarpon Springs area, nice. I haven't seen him in a while, so it's going to be nice to connect with him. And I'm going to see my sister.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got a sister. Yeah, I got two sisters. See my sister. So, oh, you got a sister. Yeah, what's your sisters? Uh, well, they're told all the opposite people. But, um, burgers, oh, yeah, yeah, two sisters. But you know, like when we were growing up, my one sister, you know, got into religion early on and she kind of bumped me with it a little bit, you know, and it kind of turned me off. I I knew that I wanted to have like a relationship with god and figure out the purpose of life and everything, but the way she was delivering it was a little bit too intense for me, you know. I appreciated the fact that she wanted me to be saved and wanted to help me, but I didn't like the avenue she took to do it. Okay, yeah, but you know we're pretty, pretty cool with each other now that's good.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Yeah, are you gonna go overseas again or no? Oh, yeah, do you have anything lined up, or?
Speaker 2:I was supposed to go over in february. Now I still have to see if, uh, we can do it. We had a couple shows booked at on a back burner right now. Plus, you know, our bass player just recently said hey, you know, I might have to take a back seat because, uh, you know, he'd build a house in france and working a lot and doesn't quite have the time to do it. You know, and all of us are doing it more for fun anymore. It's not like you know, we're making millions of dollars and you know you never really made millions anyways, did you?
Speaker 1:No, not millions.
Speaker 2:I think that's millions.
Speaker 1:I well, I believe that, but I I think I feel like it's like in that that hardcore is a little.
Speaker 2:I mean I don't think millions are there for too many yeah not in the hardcore scene, but a lot of the bands do pretty well though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure they do, but I mean I wouldn't think it's that. It's just a certain I know and I'll be honest, I really have never been in hardcore in my whole life. It's not my thing.
Speaker 2:One of the things was you, you know our first tour, when we opened for biohazard. We were told, okay, it's funny, our record label. They said, hey, we printed up some tour shirts. We had our own tour shirts that we brought with us and they're like we want to sell a shirt too to help recoup some costs. And we're like, okay, cool, so they show up with our tour dates on the back of this tie tie shirt. It was a tie-dye shirt for a punk rock hardcore band.
Speaker 1:We're like what are you doing?
Speaker 2:you know and I can't remember um, it was one of our eps uh, artwork on the front. And we're like, oh my god, like this felt like a true sellout. No, we just felt stupid. We're like tie-dye and hardcore does not go together. And we're like, oh for a show. Everyone just gravitates to that shirt and they're like we love it. And we're like what the hell it was, I'll show you. Man, it's so funny. That's the one they loved.
Speaker 1:Huh, they loved it, they so their marketing guy knew what they were doing evidently right day and everyone loved. Those shirts was like you need more of those. We had a girl that worked here. She was a dishwasher, an older lady, yeah, and she had a black Madhouse Barn Girl shirt that I think she accidentally bleached in her laundry. Yeah, and she comes in and it looked like almost like a tie-dye camo type. Look to it and everybody would see her and go I want that shirt. Where are those ones?
Speaker 2:You know, that just goes to show that sometimes, just because we think something's not cool, sure, maybe we're the ones that aren't cool.
Speaker 1:So we're getting old, so that's true.
Speaker 2:Vinnie Paul from Pantera is wearing one of the tie-dye shirts.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see it to the left there, yeah, I can see it to the left there, yeah it's terrible, like a terrible shirt.
Speaker 2:Everyone loved it and the dude from Faith no More was wearing it. Jim Martin, the guitarist, was wearing it in pictures and just so many people loved those shirts.
Speaker 1:I'm with you, though that's a horrible shirt, but they that's the one they liked, huh.
Speaker 2:Go on eBay every once in a while, look up spud monsters. You'll see some of the tie dye shirts going for like 400 bucks, holy crap. Yeah, some of our old seven inch albums 300 bucks and it's like you know, whatever people like, they're not even really good albums because of me. I thought I sucked at that time. You know I was like I was trying to find my voice and so great.
Speaker 1:But what was your favorite music? Always hardcore Cause. Obviously you listen to twisted sister. That's not really hardcore.
Speaker 2:I listened to rock and roll growing up. Love it all. I like Fleetwood Mac, while the punk rock bands were like fuck Fleetwood Mac, you know. I was like what's wrong with that? I like radio music, you know, like stuff that I was hearing. I like Rolling Stones and the Doors and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I grew up on Zeppelin and Henrix and, yeah, I hate like these, like these music snobs that you come up and they're like oh, that's so mainstream and it's like it's mainstream for a reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's what people like to people, yeah, yeah, but they like to have something that just a handful people like that makes them interesting because they have a small little. Yeah, they're like food darler, like, like, like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're like music snobs I call music. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, that's what I call them. Yeah, but I've listened to some of your stuff. It's enjoyable, some of it is. I've listened to. I like the newer stuff, but only because it moves. It moves away from the screamer of it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean I I pretty much just sing now yeah I have some attitude still, but I mean oh, you're so intense though I could see where, being at a, I would love to be at a concert, I'd love to it's, I mean, it's just you could just tell that it's just awesome when I get off stage and I'm just drenched from head to toe and I just feel, I feel like I just got a full body massage, because I just feel like that was my therapy for the past hour.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm sure it feels good too. You got to feel you got to be on a high cloud at that point.
Speaker 2:You know, when you're up there doing what you love and you're expressing your mind, all my lyrics are me, expressing things that mean something to me. You know, yeah, early on I was in the spud monsters and the old singers used to kind of write goofy lyrics, you know, and singing those songs are fun and it's cool. But you know, like, when I started really like writing my own lyrics for that band and when the other bands that I did, that's when I went from just yelling about stuff to like really expressing my heart. You know, and, and to this day I still I mean, I've written a couple hundred songs, you know, and it's like I'm running out of lyrics. You know, like henry valence says, I'm running out of lyrics, so maybe it's time to hang it up well, who's your favorite non-hardcore new artist though like somebody out right now, that's coming out that you like there's a band called term uh turnstile.
Speaker 2:They're considered hardcore, but they're not. I mean, they're just a good band. Turnstile, turnstile, they're really a good band. A lot of people in the hardcore scene are like, oh, they're sellouts. It's like, no, they're good yeah, right, right right.
Speaker 1:It's like I don't get it. They're I don't. It's like no they're good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, right, right. It's like I don't get it. You don't have to bark every song you know. In every song you know it's like they're good, talented musicians that have high energy on stage. They're just a good band.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's just the way it is. Do you like any like, while you said Fleetwood Mac or anything like that? Like, like. Do you like anything like that today? Like no more a lot.
Speaker 2:That's a band that I always come back to faith. No more. What a great band. Yeah, just it could bring it to you heavy and fast and right in your face, but at the same time then they're singing like friggin Commodore's covers. You know, lionel Richie what about Nora Jones?
Speaker 1:you like Nora Jones, I don't know. You don't about Nora Jones? You like Nora Jones, I don't know? Oh, you don't know. Nora Jones, no, sail away with me to a different world. Oh man, that voice, she sounds like it. I was thinking of no, she sounds like a. I was thinking of Christopher Cross Sailing. No, no, no, no, she sounds like, like, like, like, she Like, like, like, like she's singing in an old, like you know, dirty hall and a piano, like it's just Little raps, oh yeah, oh yeah, she's so like that's.
Speaker 2:That was like Amy Winehouse kind of had that vibe you know like and Jesse Murph does.
Speaker 1:Now, too, that new Jesse Murph does, but Jesse Murph's a little more popular than Nora. But man, I love Nora Jones. Oh, murph does now too, that new Jesse Murph does, but Jesse Murph's a little more popular than Nora. But man, I love Nora Jones. Oh my god, I like that vibe a lot. Yeah, that's a cool. Like that's my relax, that's how I relax. I like to listen to Nora. Oh, yeah, something like that. I like reggae.
Speaker 2:I love a lot of reggae, like even, yeah, the bad brains, the band that I auditioned for I wrote about in the book um, that's a band that was right in your face. Rastafarian hardcore is a black dudes with dreadlocks that are smoking ganja or whatever you know. They're playing punk rock hardcore, which was like mind blown. These dudes are playing punk rock and then next song they do. They just break out this really chill like reggae song. It's like wow, do you, do you?
Speaker 2:smoke, weed no no I I mean I don't do any type of intoxication. The last thing I did was, in 1995, drank my last beer ever with uh kirk, the singer of crowbar. Oh really, yeah, yeah, that's a band crowbar, crowbar. Oh yeah, really. And uh, he also plays in a band called down with the singer of Pantera.
Speaker 1:My cousin has a, has a his, my, my mom's, maiden name's crow. Yeah, so my cousin down in in Pittsburgh area, like in East Liverpool type area, he's got his back garage turned into a bar and it says crowbar. That's funny. I have to check that out and see who that is Exactly. Cause I have to check that out and see who that is exactly, because I have to send them some some music of our school. Yeah, I'll have to check it out. All right, I appreciate you coming in. This was this was fun.
Speaker 1:This is what I was hoping for. You know, just sit back, relax, talk like you. The thing is it to me is still amazing is how chill you are and then you watch on stage and you go wow, how can that be the same guy? I'll never forget the first time I went home and I'm looking through and I go what in?
Speaker 2:the hell is this? Well, if you took put on some of our music right now, I might mess this place up no, don't do that.
Speaker 1:Don't mess up the place.
Speaker 2:I've put too much into it, I'm all chill, I'm pretty laid back. You know, um, it's like I said, the music puts me in a whole different zone, puts me in a whole different sphere of of what you'll ever fight.
Speaker 1:I was a boxer for 20 years. No, I mean like just be out and about getting a fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, early on in life, but that was just me being ignorant or responding to somebody else's ignorance, but I used to like sticking up for the underdog. I'd see a kid getting picked on, and in my high school school, my first day at brunswick high school where I had gone to school, there was a jock wrestler guy picking on this skinny little kid and I just went up. I'm like, hey, what's going on? You think cool? The guy's like, fuck you, you got a problem. I'm like I want to make sure this kid's not getting picked on and I said, well, there's two of us against you right now. Then I knew that kid wasn't going to help me, but I wanted to stand up and help him. You know, yeah, yeah, and the teacher came up. The guy didn't mess with me though, because he saw I was willing to stand up and fight that's part of your philosophy too.
Speaker 1:Like the indian, you know that. That isn't it, or no? Am I wrong? What to stand up for yourself? No to, to not like to? To turn another, turn the other cheek, as they say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know when you see injustice, you have to stand up and do the right thing. You know, so, like I will. You know, it's like I was just talking the other day. People like oh, don't you miss eating meat? And and I was like I can't, don't you miss eating meat? And I was like I can't justify killing an innocent living creature just for 10 minutes of pleasure on my tongue.
Speaker 2:What if they die of old age? Well then you can use that leather, for it's called a himsa leather. It's nonviolent leather, so you can use it. If they die of natural causes, you cut up the leather and use it for whatever shoes or you know you're okay with that. Then, yeah, because it's non-violent, I got you, but you know you don't necessarily kill stuff. I just I can't understand that, you know, uh, doing that. So, um, it's like if, if an animal comes up, a dog comes up and it's attacking me, kill it, whatever. But I'm not going out of my way to kill a cow because I want to enjoy a hamburger or a steak or something. You know, it's just like you justify it.
Speaker 2:And John, john Joseph's the one that like kind of I overheard him talking to some kid backstage the first night of our tour and I was like wow. I was like wow, I was like that's some heavy stuff you're talking about with that kid. And he's like yo, enlighten yourself, he's got the stick new york accent. He's like yo, enlighten yourself. He hands me this book, the science of self-realization. I read it, blew my mind yeah, what's his book called?
Speaker 1:uh, he's got he's got five books out, but the one that that evolution of the crow magnon.
Speaker 2:And then his second book was Meat is for Pussies. That's it Meat is for Pussies.
Speaker 2:If you know him, he's just a badass dude, tattooed from head to toe thick accent, yeah yeah, philosophically he's focused, but he's got a lot of New York in him. You get that guy upset and if you're on the wrong side of injustice he'll mess your day up, man, no kidding. Great dude though like a great guy always and I he's another guy that inspired me like to stand up for the underdog, for the little guy, you know I, I, I seen something.
Speaker 1:What, what was it was it? It was him, was him. I saw an interview with him where he talked about going out in New York and there was something went on and he jumped into a crowd and was sticking up for somebody and then they finally I can't remember the story, I wish I'd have to look into it, but something to that effect though sticking up to some gang members in the area. In the book I wrote about that, oh you did. Book I wrote about that, oh you did. I wrote about.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, okay you know there's some dude crazy eddie that they ran this like orderly gang something like. So was that? That was you then?
Speaker 1:no, I, that was about john joseph. Oh, okay, I tell the story.
Speaker 2:That might be it, but you know, like they're outside of a club and they were this gang was picking on a bunch of the punk rockers and john was like asking people, that might be it, but you know, like they're outside of a club and they were. This gang was picking on a bunch of the punk rockers and John was like asking people why aren't people staying up to these guys? You know what's up, you know we gotta help be righteous, you know. So you know he goes, takes, you know he stands up to them and starts a fight with them, this whole gang. You know he stands up to them and starts a fight with them, this whole gang. You know.
Speaker 2:And you know it got like crazy and he ran into the club and they tried to lock the door and he ran split and he knew that they had you know, they had his number. So they were looking for him. Right, he was expected to be killed, you know. So he stayed away for a while and then after a while, I was like screw this, I'm not gonna like hide the rest of my life. So he went down, walked right in front of the group, right out in front of this uh club that was called the a7 club, and he walks up and they're all standing there. It's like I'm here. What's up, you know? And they're like and they're about to mess him up.
Speaker 2:And then daryl, from the bad brains came out, a a7. He's like yo, yo, hey, man, chill out, it's our guy and he's good, and he was just sticking up for those kids and they you would have done the same for your guys. And they're like oh, that's cool. So they squashed the beef right there and they even said that crazy eddie dude was like. Many years later he was interviewed, you know, for some podcast and he's like you know that crazy motherfucker was the only one that ever stood up to us. He's the only one that had the ball, so we got mad respect for him for you told that story so good.
Speaker 1:I thought I heard it from him himself well, he does tell it in his book. I didn't read his book, though I read yours, so it's got like I said, you got a bunch of books and it's he.
Speaker 2:He's got a great book, evolution of a crow, magnon, and that's like that's really cool. He's got an audio book for it. So him reading it and his thick New York accents hilarious. It's like, you know, adam the out from the beastie boys did a review of the book and he goes one minute you're crying because his life story is like tugs at your heart.
Speaker 2:You know you grew up in orphanages and you know there's an old lady that was, you know, with a big mole on her face with hair coming out of it. He, him and his brother were staying as foster kids in their home and they treated him like dogs. You know she'd like take oreo cookies and like get all the white filling off and then spit it out or whatever. Give them the filling and she would just eat the cookie part and just give them the filling. You know their spit all over it and feed them dog food and shit. Wow, so like he'd been through some stuff, you know. So you're reading about this stuff and you're like man, this is like horrible. You know you feel like crying. Then the next thing he says makes you laugh your ass off.
Speaker 1:It's just whoa all over the place. I'm gonna have to get that book before february and read it. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:So I have some information and I have I have the audio to hearing him tell this. It's like four discs and it's just great yeah, I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1:They're not on disc anymore you can go on just telling you, you can go on youtube.
Speaker 2:I think you could hear each episode on youtube.
Speaker 1:I think it's called audible. I think like there's a it's like audible book. Now it's like what it's called audible.
Speaker 2:I have a couple of the cds themselves in my car, though I'll throw it on every once in a while to laugh. It's like it's just funny. But you know he gets intense when he's talking about his life, you know, because he's seen a lot of people get burned, and himself and his brother, and it's just crazy life.
Speaker 1:I've never, I've never met nobody. So so, uh, extreme or whatever you want to call it, I've never, not once, I mean when I. I just looked at a couple interviews after you mentioned them and looked into it again. I'm not in that scene of the screen music. You know what I mean. That was never my. I'm more of like I was like I grew up on Michael Jackson and Prince.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. That's like my first albums.
Speaker 1:I ever owned. Prince was like, yeah, I was a big Prince was a big prince. I went to see purple rain like 21 times, 22 times at the movie theater. Yeah, true story, loved me. Some prince. Yeah, yeah, he was. I mean, that's just how I grew.
Speaker 1:I loved r&b, hip-hop yeah, you know, that's been my love all the way through and a little bit of rock and roll, and definitely I don't. I was more like when it became mainstream, like I grew up my uncles and stuff were all into, like you know, heavy metal and motley crew and and all that stuff, air bands and you know obviously even like, uh, what was it? Uh, what was the one? They were always in metallica, you know. But then when metallica come out with their what was? There was one, because that was the album, one, I forget what it was the one that became mainstream. Yeah, that was it. That's when I loved them. I was like, oh, yeah, they're great, I love it. I like the old stuff yeah, I'm sure you do, and my uncles and stuff did too, but it wasn't my thing, never was into that type of, but I do enjoy, I put, I put yours on and I'm like I could see working out to this. For sure, run into that.
Speaker 2:My one friend's like. Somebody asked him what kind of music does he play. He's like ask kick and mute ask kick and mute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good, that's a good sign for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I like that positive hardcore. You know it's meant to give you positive like vibes, you know, and give you energy.
Speaker 1:You know, because it's uh, you have surrogates here too, though right, surrogate band members here, so that you could play locally.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I have uh guys that were in my other band, run devil run, or my solo band foos. You know that fill in. And we we've done a few shows. One might fall in. You know, we went up, did like jersey in new york city, did a show in cleveland, you know. So a couple of guys from france flew in for the new york and, uh, philly show, nice. Yeah. So uh, and they, they always want to travel too. But um, you know I want to build a substantial tour before I have people coming over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, understood Two shows.
Speaker 2:I'm willing to go over there and just play a couple shows, so it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1:You just like doing it. That's all, yeah, and for me it's just. My wife just said where's Lulu? I told him not to bring Not while Tipsy's being an adult woman for a few weeks Adult woman. I told him not to bring not while not while, uh, tipsies and being an adult woman for a few weeks. She texted, she called me the other day and said said tipsies, a woman. So she found out that it was bleeding all over. She picked her up and she was blood all over and I I'm sure yours is the same way. They can't. They can't reach their stuff to take care of it themselves because of the way their bodies are or whatever, like the, the bulldogs they're. They're a mess, those dogs for sure. But yeah, I mean that's I don't know. It was cool though. This was fun. I enjoyed it. This is what I've been looking forward to. I've been wanting to get you on here and I the one thing I love that the end of the book that you did that you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got, yeah, yeah that's how I know if somebody read the book. Yeah, that's always the first thing somebody writes to me, they're always like dude, you got you send me that text. I'm like oh, it's nice to know you read the book yeah, that was.
Speaker 1:That was great because that was especially.
Speaker 2:We did it at maroose brothers all the time everybody oh yeah, you know that was the thing it's gotta be below the waist?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, it's gotta be below the waist, right? Yeah, yeah, brandon appreciated. I sent him a picture of it. You remember brandon fair? Uh, fryer, fryer. Yeah, that's fryer. Yeah, that was my. That was my ex-brother-in-law. Oh yeah, that's it. That's how we all knew each other and everything. But yeah, brandon's somebody I stay in touch with, oh yeah, consistently. Yeah, he's a good dude, he's a real good dude.
Speaker 2:He's not giving up meat, though, I promise yeah, believe me, with today's diets, like, like the, the food spectrum, I mean, you can do so much without having to incorporate meat in there. I don't miss it at all, there's nothing to miss.
Speaker 1:You know what? Honestly, if I'm being honest, I'm too lazy.
Speaker 2:I'd be okay with doing it, but if you want to go in the kitchen and cook a burger. You still need to take some time to prepare for it. I don't want to do that. But what do you just want? To go get fast food?
Speaker 1:No, I got to cook downstairs all full time.
Speaker 2:Your full time cook. Make you some plant based protein and feel the difference.
Speaker 1:My wife just said Brandon loves the meat. I love to hear this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he always listens.
Speaker 1:He listens while he works usually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool, him and her go at it. They. She started with him one day, like when she first moved in with me, and she doesn't know him. You know what I mean. Yeah, he's one that you don't push, brandon, he's not gonna lose Brandon. It don't matter what happens. At the end of the day he's going to push it too far. I promise that's who he is as a person. That's just always always been that way. So she started I think she might. I forget. I wish I knew the story. She smeared something on him and it turned into a whole big blow up at the house one day. Not that they both are okay with it, because they're both assholes to each other. So, yeah, it worked out great. But so we're gonna put this out here for everybody. Motivate me, all right. And you see he's got a kale shirt. He's promoting that kale. He's loving that kale life.
Speaker 2:I had some kale chips that were really good yeah, I got the recipe in the book here for the kale chips and that's what people say as far as like, one of their favorite recipes is kale chips recipe.
Speaker 1:So yeah, those are really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's. That's the recipe for the kale chips right there.
Speaker 1:That's in the book Raw Life. Yeah, that's, that's a favorite by a lot of people, and you know the raw life isn't only food, though it's. You give some other uh beneficial things, Like I remember, I learned that you said one of the best things you could do in that book was for, uh, sana was one of the best. You talk about that in that book, I remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I show recipes for elixirs that you can take herbs and make teas and smoothies and stuff and they're good for curing ailments of the body and the mind. And then there's juice fasting also, where you can detoxify your body and get back to good health and get rid of you know if I get rich enough to get a full-time chef.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll be a vegan so what's her name downstairs? She's on the clock right yeah, she is on the clock. Yeah, she had to learn all of it in the summer. She'd have to learn it all. Get a masticating juicer.
Speaker 2:Get your juice done every day. Bottle it up. It's good for probably like two days, because to use a masticating juicer rather than a centrifugal juicer then better so what is that?
Speaker 2:it's just like pulverizing, yeah it masticates it at at a cold press level. It's not heated up, so it lasts longer, couple days. You know, every other day, man, just make a batch to get you through a couple days, you'll see a huge difference. And cognitively, and you know just, you can hear better, see better, smell better, everything all your senses will become heightened and purified I believe that I believe in adding those things and I believe in limited.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not, I'm one of those that I I believe in moderation of everything. I think that that's always the best thing for everybody. Yeah, you know what I mean, cause I would hate, like the old saying goes to be, you know, in a car accident, laying there bleeding and thinking, man, I wish I had it.
Speaker 2:Like they say you know people that are on their deathbed. They don't say I wish I did, I wish I spent more time working. You know it's like's, that's a fact. Just know what we should be doing now rather than wait to the last minute and be like, oh, I wasted so much of my life. Yeah, you know, we spend so much time like trying to materially get ahead and all this stuff. And there's a story in, uh, in my book it's a chapter called post-dated check.
Speaker 2:I worked with this dude. He's an old guy, you know we're working pouring concrete after eight hours. A lot of us young guys. We were like, oh, I'm ready to go home, I want to go post-dated check. I worked with this dude. He's an old guy, you know we're working pouring concrete after eight hours. A lot of us young guys. We were like, oh, I'm ready to go home, I want to go live my life.
Speaker 2:And this guy's like, no, you stay late, man. Like I'm gonna have six thousand a month when I retire and you guys are preparing for your future and real men want to work and you should, you know. At the same time, this dude's wife didn't like him, the kids didn't like him because all he did is wanted to work, you know, and so got divorced and the kids were always talking crap about him. They didn't like him. And then he retired and like a month later he died. And the chapter is called post-dated check because he kept putting all his faith and all his time-dated check, because he kept putting all his faith and all his time into this check that he never even got the cash there's a story that happened around here.
Speaker 1:There was a. Do you remember the? I don't know if you would. You might remember the gas station blew up on broadway. I heard about that. You remember that? Yeah, that happened. There was a guy, there was a woman that came off the highway or brakes didn't work or something. She couldn't stop. But the when she hit there was a guy that died there pumping gas at the gas station. He was on his way home from his last day of Ford.
Speaker 1:It's something I've never forgot. I learned that happened when I was about 17 and it's something I've never forgot. Never it's that stuck with me so hard. You know my life. That's why I never worked a factory job. I always worked construction. You saw me, I. I went to work.
Speaker 1:I'm a hard worker. I bust ass when I'm there, yeah, but I haven't kept my jobs very long. I I'll do a couple years, a few years, and I move on. Or I've had my own company for years. I've just. It's just. It's not me, it's and I don't live. I don't have. The biggest on my house is I have 1400 square feet or something. It's not me and I don't live. I don't have. The biggest on my house is. I have 1400 square feet or something. It's not. I'm not living la vida loca, I promise I'm not. It's not. A lot of people think, oh, he owns a restaurant, he does this and this is something I felt I could do when I get older and I'm some more secure and you know, I thought maybe it'd give me some security and I enjoy it. I really don't enjoy the restaurant that much, as I like this better than I like the restaurant.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go. And that's the reason in that same chapter post-dated check I tell at the end of the chapter that anytime I wanted to take vacation or coach my kid's baseball team or anything, that came first. So I never went to my employer and said, can I have this time off? I always went in and said I'm going to be gone the third week of March until this date. I don't give them the option to tell me I can't do that. Sure, I'm telling them what's up and if they don't like it, then I'm going to go work somewhere else. Yeah, and that's the way I've always lived my life. I'm doing what I want to do, doing what I want to do. I'm going to prioritize my family and my friends and living life over making some guy a multi-millionaire because I'm gonna work 18 hours a day for him. It's like just it's not happening, you know I remember working for ocp.
Speaker 1:I remember hearing that they have an island. You ever heard about that?
Speaker 2:ocp has an island, yeah, and geron has. They own a bunch of buildings in downtown Cleveland, yeah. They have the construction companies and they tell what each one of them have. I know about OCP's island, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's like I was working for them and I was like I have a friend that owned a company in in Hudson. Yeah and I, I decided that when I heard about that island, I went. You know, in hudson, yeah and I, I decided that when I heard about that island I went, you know, if I I don't know who owns it, I don't know who owns ocp, I don't know him. I mean, I've heard of him but I don't know him. I know joe. I know he's got a lot of money, I know he's done well, but I'd rather earn him money. At least I know him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean, that's how I thought about it. The funny thing they say they say that there's this business owner has all his people. At the end of the year party he says I just want to thank you guys for a great year. We made a lot of money and everything. And someday he says look at all these things that I have. I have a yacht, I have a big mansion, all this stuff. And if you keep working this way and they're thinking he's going to be like you can have that too and he goes if you keep working this way, I can have more of that.
Speaker 1:So that's the joke.
Speaker 2:If you keep working for me, then I'll even go bigger. But in my book also, dwayne the Rock Johnson says don't go and work eight hours a day for some company and and burn yourself out and come home and not work on your dreams. That's what I'm saying. You're not tired, you're uninspired. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:I'll go and work on my pension and make sure my kid has medical benefits and make sure I have an annuity and you know, when I retire there'll be something coming in. Oh, that's first. But on on top of that I'm going to write books, I'm going to write albums, I'm going to go on tour and I'm going to see the world. I traveled throughout 23 countries, you know. And being able to go and play in all these places and have these relationships with promoters and the fans or friends really not fans are really our friends because we give our hearts to them and we have these passions. So that's that's where the real I guess that's where the real prize of it all comes from. It's like going and doing these things, uh, we get so caught up with. Okay, our job is everything you know, and then you work until you're hurting and you're old and you can't move. Then you're going to go and see the world, then you're going to go and do this Hell. You can hardly move Right now. You have life, I have vitality.
Speaker 1:When you say motivate me, is this because they motivated you? Yeah, every quote in that book, every quote, was somebody that motivated you. I was curious if that was that or if you were asking someone to motivate you.
Speaker 2:Right now it's kind of the same thing, though Let this book motivate me from the reader's perspective too. I gotcha yeah.
Speaker 1:I was just curious. When I was thinking about it, I'm like is that the case? I didn't know. I think stupid shit. I probably think like different people don't think like I do, probably.
Speaker 2:You know the great thing about um, when I write lyrics too. When I write lyrics, I know what it means to me, but if you read it and you get something out of it that you can apply in your own life, take those lyrics and use them for what you sure, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Nobody's got the same story, so they. How could your lyrics match their life? Their life is different than your life. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah so I try to make sure that there's more than just one. But generally speaking, I present a problem in life and I give a solution at the end. Don't give up, Be optimistic. Like Winston Churchill said and I mention that in the book too that a pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, but an optimist sees the opportunity in every opportunity. It's the mindset that we see things with. It's going to be, whether it's depression or if it's going to be bliss in the end. We know that we have to go through the fire sometimes to become strong. You know so we should. Anytime something really negative happens in our life, we might see it as negative but know that there's something great that's going to come out of that eventually.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this too shall pass. As they say, this too shall pass. Yeah, that's a fact.
Speaker 2:And look at all of yesterday's problems and depressions that we suffered in the past. We can't even think of them off the top of our head. Technically speaking, Right. So?
Speaker 1:everything. I remember when I went through my divorce, like my first thing was I focused on like, uh, like man, I lost my. Yeah, yeah, I'm losing my truck, I'm losing, I lost my you know this, and I don't get to see my kids. And you know, I did this and I did this for like a year, year and a half or something, maybe, maybe even longer, I don't know. It wasn't until one day I was like you know, I can't keep focusing on you know, I think it was Scotty Campana said something about the windshield is bigger than the rear view mirror for a reason. Yeah, I remember him saying that and I thought, you know he's right, and I just kind of like I never thought about what I lost again. I never really did on occasion, you think I'm, I, you cannot, but yeah, I mean for the most part, I just man, whatever it is what it is, no big deal yeah, in eastern philosophy there's a story about this.
Speaker 2:Uh, great king. He was invincible. Everyone loved the king and he had this uh, was it king james?
Speaker 1:no he had this.
Speaker 2:He had this personal servant who was just a street sweeper guy and just nobody, but he was his personal servant. So he would go and take his personal servant on this like what do they call that they go on a scavenger hunt every year. So he'd take him into the wilderness and they'd go on a scavenger hunt. It was kind of for sport. And so his, his, uh, servant was a very godly person, had a relationship with god and was always speaking about how god is great and all this. But the king was atheist. He's like what are you always talking about this god? For, come on, man, let's just go have some fun and all this stuff. So he was getting ready to take his servant on the scavenger hunt and the servant was cutting lengths of rope for the scavenger hunt and he accidentally cut his thumb off and and he was oh man, so much pain. And and the king was like oh, sorry that this happened. You. And this guy was like no, no, it's okay, it was god's mercy. It was god's mercy and he was just getting sick of hearing about how great god is, even in the face of adversity, and he's like he got mad at him. He told his servants, his guards, to like, lock him up. He's going to talk about this god, you know, and where's his god when his thumb got cut off? I'm going on the scavenger hunt by myself. Just feed him bread and water till I get back. He's just totally pissed at him.
Speaker 2:So he goes out on the scavenger hunt by himself and come up on this tribe of, like aborigines or whatever and they were also on a scavenger hunt in search of the perfect king and, oh no, sorry, I fucked up the story. Already. The king cut his thumb off, okay, but the servant was talking about how, yeah, it was god's mercy. And he's like, where's this god when I got my thumb cut off? So that was the. That was what happened. So they were on the scavenger hunt and, uh, aborigines were looking for the perfect King for a sacrifice. They were going to cook him alive and everything, when they noticed that he was missing a thumb. But he was considered non-perfect, sure, so they had to let him go, cause everything happened for a reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he goes back and he tells his servant I'm so sorry, I'm. You know, I was wrong, you I'm. You know I was wrong. You were right. That happened, that was God's mercy, and that's why I couldn't be, uh, sacrificed. And how can you ever forgive me? And he's like oh, it's God's mercy. He's like what? Why do you have all this confidence? I could have killed you. You're sitting there starving because of me and because of me being a numbskull. He goes don't you see, if I was with you, uh, because I was the king's personal servant, I'm as good as the king, because I'm his representative and I have all my limbs they could have sacrificed me. Ultimately, it was god's mercy. So, although he didn't see the mercy and the good that was to come out of all that at the time, of the adversity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the servant just had faith, no matter what that, that, that was what was supposed to happen. So that's the thing. We, when we're going through the fire, sometimes we're like how could god let this happen? How could? How can I see the good in this? This is terrible. This happened to happen. I got divorced, I got this and that and it's like just total misery. But once the once the clouds get by and the storm passes, there's sunshine again and happiness, and there's a new chapter and there's newness. You know, you know. So we gotta remember that there's always a better tomorrow, no matter how dark it gets today yeah, absolutely you, you've been divorced.
Speaker 1:What? Twice, three times, twice, twice, that's what I thought. You just recently were divorced, right? Nope, were you divorced when they wrote the book? Yeah, it was just after my first divorce. Yeah, oh, this book was right after your first divorce. Yeah, oh, really.
Speaker 2:I was writing it. That was one of the projects that I did to uh work through my you know depression, work through my difficult time, the storm I was going through. I'm like, I'm going to write a book, I'm going to get physically fit, doing like 500 pushups a day and, like you know, well, we all do that.
Speaker 1:When you get divorced or when you separate, they say that divorce is the best personal trainer, you can have.
Speaker 2:You got to look good man, you got to look good. It's not even about looking good. It's almost like you're punishing yourself to a certain degree, but it's not punishment, though that's that razor's edge. Okay, is it punishing myself? Or is it working so hard on making myself the best that I can be, physically and mentally, that I'm going to work through this and, um, come out on top better in the end? So, physically fit speaking man, I was just like I was just pushing myself beyond. You know, when I'm running those stairs, I was just like dead, but I was like I'm going through it and I became mentally stronger than ever, you know, and I love going through divorce difficult times yeah, that's the craziest thing ever.
Speaker 2:I like going through difficulties because it makes me better. We get complacent when we're happy and hey man, I'm gonna try and get better.
Speaker 1:No, I'm trying to get better here, babe, that's what it is. I'm trying to be a better me, yeah, but it does it makes you better.
Speaker 2:We've all been complacent.
Speaker 1:Where everything's great at home, jobs great, you know there's no adversity to work through you always hear it, the guy that goes I had no, no clue, there was a problem. Yeah, you know. I mean, you've heard it a million times yeah, I had no clue, there was a problem, you know well, when we get thrown into the fire.
Speaker 2:That's where we make our spiritual progress, that's where we make progress physically and mentally, just in life, all the challenges it throws at us. It really, really like telling you. There's a story in the vedas where this uh, this, uh, droppity, she throws her hands in the air and she starts praying to god. She says, uh, god, just please bring on the calamities in my life, because that way I'm always connected with you, know, I'm in the right mindset, but you know we don't think like that. No, dear God, send me problems. So that, yeah, no, I mean, that's a real advanced soul to be thinking like that. I'm like, can you be chill with me just for a little longer?
Speaker 1:I'm like, can you be chill with me just for a little longer? You know, they say. They say that god never gives you more than you can handle and that's true. He must, uh, he must think I'm a bad must have been hitler in the last life. Geez, no, no, no. He just thinks I'm I'm bad enough to handle. It is all I'm saying. I've been through plenty in my years, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, probably my spiritual master said that this material world is full of irritating and embarrassing situations and one must learn to be very forgiving. So, like when I see people screw up in life or people make offenses towards me, I try to not be offended but just give them a little bit of slack and be like it's all good. We're all human, you know, but we got to try to learn from the, the difficulties that we put people into and the mistakes that we make. You know, I know I'm not perfect. I've made mistakes in my time, but every time I make a mistake or I witness people being ignorant, you know whether people are being prejudiced or this or that being around me. You know it's like I just try to see. Well, eventually, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you, how you may. It sounds like Yoda to me. When you talk about that type of stuff, it sounds like you know Yoda. Yeah, do you think that's where he was inspired?
Speaker 2:Star Wars like the inspired yoda, for maybe that philosophy. What's funny is I never saw that movie and everyone's like, really, I never saw those. What? Yeah, I've just never been into like sci-fi stuff. It's not sci-fi well, what is it?
Speaker 1:it's not sci-fi, it's a love story, it's a, it's a it's. I mean it just happens to be, yeah, it's not live. No, it's not sci-fi. I mean it is sci-fi, obviously, but it's not like. It's not like star trek or something like it's, it's I don't know. It's no, it's a great it's boy. It's what you should watch. That I mean. Then start with the first, with the first.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I've tried like, like, what's the hype?
Speaker 1:and I'm like it's just so I you know. I don't know if you would get it as much as you did like as a teenage boy probably, if I really brought it, you know what I mean. Yeah, as a teenage boy it was something really cool, like just because you could, your imagination was better as a teenage boy as a teenage boy I was ripping farts with my friends and watching, you know, like tommy boy, something like that.
Speaker 2:You know, like that was my kind of movie, yeah I like that too.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was I. Like that too. That was good too, like I. But I mean, how old are you? I'll be 57 in may. Oh well, you weren't listening, listening, you weren't watching Tommy Boy as a teenager.
Speaker 2:Well, whatever you were doing that. You were a lot older dude. You should have grew up a little quicker. I was into comedy.
Speaker 1:You should have been listening to Cheech and Chong back then. That was funny shit.
Speaker 2:back then I was running around chasing girls. Back then I didn't have time for TV.
Speaker 1:Cheech and Chong was in the movie I watched, cheech and chong. That was great shit. That was hilarious. Or beast. You remember? Beastie or not? Beastie boys, uh, jerky boys, remember?
Speaker 2:that was the prank calls, yeah I did a lot of prank phone calls back in the day too, yeah, but I put them as bonus tracks on albums like to, where I would call sports talk shows and ask them questions about don foose and and just my guys in my band. We would laugh so hard because these guys would be on air and they didn't want to admit they never heard of Don Foose. I'm like, yeah, did Don Foose make it into the Florida Marlins five man rotation?
Speaker 1:he did great in spring training.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know. I haven't watched Foose in a while. I gotta look into that. And they're sitting there. They got their producer looking up Don Foose and I don't know what happened to him.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Yeah, like, was that inspired by jerky boys?
Speaker 2:I don't know it was us. Our drummer, eric Matthews, would show up to practice late all the time.
Speaker 1:So your drummer was Eric Matthews? Why does that sound familiar?
Speaker 2:Cause he plays drums in every Cleveland band. Is that what it is, oh okay. Cleveland band Is that what it is, oh okay.
Speaker 1:Is he playing? Is he on a radio station too, or something? No no plays in every band. Oh, is that what it is? Okay, yeah, that name is just like. As soon as you said it, it sticks out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he, um, he would be late for band practice all the time and I'd be like Ancum side call and we record it with a boom box. I was at this tape of all these calls and it was so funny. Where's that tape now?
Speaker 1:Oh, I have them. They're hilarious. Yeah, that's awesome, you should release that.
Speaker 2:Oh, I talked to Jeff. I'm like, yeah, do you know if Don Fuse is going to turn pro after the Olympics? Oh, you know, I'm not sure what or what Don Foose is going to do at this time. You know it's going to be. He's going to have to talk to his management. They're fumbling over their words because they don't want to admit it. I've never heard of Don Foose. This guy is in the Olympics. I don't even know who he is. Makes them look like they're incompetent, you know, like sports talk show hosts.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious so yeah, I'd be like, yeah, you know, that was always what happened to Don. Oh, yeah, Don, what about? The guys are going to be fighting Mike Tyson when he gets out of prison, you know, like Axel Schultz or Don Foose, for instance. What do you think of Foose? Uh, yeah, well, you know, uh, Foose, uh, and they're fumbling over. It's so funny. And then I'll do you go with her? Or you think, cause, cause, he hit your mucus membrane, and they're like what? Oh?
Speaker 2:And then my, my best one was whenever I was talking to um, uh, what was it? He was the main, uh, sports talk. Oh, Trevisano. I called him. I said I want to play word association with him. I said I'll give you a player from each sport and you give a real short description. And I was like Oscar Gamble. He played for the Indians back in the big Afro. He's like Afro, he's like, oh, I remember that guy's Afro. And then it was right, when OJ killed his wife allegedly, I said OJ Simpson, he's like sad Will Chamberlain, mad ahead of his time, Don Foose. And there's this real long, uncomfortable pause. It's just dead silent on the air. Oh, I said Don Foose, and you can hear my guys from the band laughing in the background. He's like Don Foose, I'm like yeah, yeah, badminton. He's like what? And we're just all laughing. So we got all these on tape and they're just funny, you know.
Speaker 2:And so people would be like I was driving home I heard that that phone call started, kind of like people were expecting me to call in all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty awesome. That's funny. Well, we've been at it about two and a half hours. That was a pretty long. It goes fast once you start getting into and just talking, you know. But I'm gonna get off of here. I gotta go, uh, probably get something to eat. Some beef in my system. No, I don't think I can. Honestly, there's a recall actually right now, yeah, and I'm, I just uh, they're looking right now. They're looking. We just found out about it. They're looking to make sure that none of it's ours. She just texted me and said that that's not the case. But so hopefully that's true, but that's never a good sign. But you could get that with vegetables too. Yeah, I mean, that can happen with vegetables. Don't be blaming me.
Speaker 2:Hey man, I don't preach, I just let people know what works in my life.
Speaker 1:I've never had you preach to me about it at all, Never, no, but I am inspired by you 100%. Thank you. Ever since I met you, I thought you were interesting, inspirational and just a genuine good dude.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, and I appreciate you having me on today and I look forward to doing more stuff with you. You're a good guy and you've always been one of my favorites. You know you've just been anytime I see your smile and you're always just a genuine good dude and I appreciate you thank you very much everybody go out and get motivate me.
Speaker 1:Motivate me with don foos. Yeah, thank you. And if you get a chance, get raw life, they'll teach you at least some juice and you can still eat a steak and have a juice. No, you can't False information. Alright, peace, thank you. It's not working. I tried. We're going to go with my music. That's awesome.
