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Jimmy and Gito just talking about things going around at MAHD House Bar & Grille In Elyria, Ohio. Jimmy Is the owner of MAHD House and Gito is his close friend that helps out around the bar. Listen in while they dissect the daily dealings of the bar.
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Can organized crime be the unexpected key to Middle East peace? Join us for a whirlwind journey through the wild year of 2024, starting with the hilarious and unpredictable 2024 election cycle. We stir the pot with some Thanksgiving tweet comparisons from past and present presidents before diving headfirst into the chaos of college football. The explosive rivalry between Michigan and Ohio State took center stage this year, with flag-planting antics that led to an unforgettable on-field brawl. Who knew college sports could so perfectly mirror the year's unpredictability?
From football fields to furry friends, we recount a pet care debacle where a dog flea treatment was mistakenly used on a cat, sparking a dialogue on the intricacies of pet health. As we navigate the responsibilities of pet ownership, personal anecdotes highlight the potential pitfalls of miscommunication and the broader challenges of feeding our pets. In a shift from the personal to the global, we explore the fraught economic relationship between the U.S. and China, delving into trade tariffs and intellectual property issues, while also pondering unconventional solutions for Middle Eastern conflicts.
The episode wraps with a bang—literally—with a thrilling tale involving propane tanks and an unexpected crisis that tested team camaraderie. Alongside these stories, we tackle the rising costs of living, labor issues, and the potential role of automation and robotics in reshaping the workforce. As we touch upon the power dynamics of global economics, the conversations weave together personal anecdotes and big-picture debates, creating an engaging narrative that challenges conventional thinking and offers fresh perspectives on today's most pressing issues.
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we're number one. Jimmy has been a cheap ass. You know I'm like damn. You heard it here first right right, right, we're the best you know. They say people that cuss are more honest. So I'm honest, motherfucker, put the fish away. Reggie, it don't even hurt to give birth anymore, not for me.
Speaker 3:Nothing to it, let's do it. Come on, I'm ready. I'm ready, I want to do it. I'm wearing thongs. I got one on right now Madhouse Bar Talks baby man, this is a bunch of shit, if you ask me.
Speaker 1:I don't make no sense.
Speaker 3:Where was the laugh? Ha ha ha ha. That time I told you it wasn't there. I don't know where that came from. Last time that was weird. I don't know where in the world that came from. It's December 1st. 2024 is almost over. Ain't that a bitch crazy year too?
Speaker 1:so think of everything that happened this year. What'd you think?
Speaker 3:you the I would have to say it's like this election cycle with, like robert kennedy joining forces with trump and elon mus joining for I mean, it's just like. It's just a whole thing's crazy. It's nuts. Our video looks like it's froze all that Was.
Speaker 1:I said it cleared up, you did it.
Speaker 3:That you got your sound on over there. I can hear coming through. I do, too. The had the Thanksgiving. How was your Thanksgiving Good? What was it? A couple friends' house, nice. Did you see all the tweets from our president and former presidents?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:I'll start with our current president. Okay, our current president said and here we go, let me find it for you with the right screen. And there it goes. Our current president says hey, happy thanksgiving. May we use this moment to take time for our busy lives and focus on what matters most our families, our friends, our neighbors and the fact that we've been blessed to live in America, the greatest country on earth. It's pretty good, not bad not bad. Now let's see what Obama had to say. Where's Obama's? All right, here's Obama's. Obama is happy Thanksgiving everybody. Today, every day, let's remember the importance of giving back and showing our gratitude to those who have given so much. Does he think it's Veterans Day? I mean, it's a nice thing, but, like you know, it sounds more like a Veterans Day post, right, don't it? You know it sounds more like a Veterans Day post, right, don't it? I don't know.
Speaker 2:And now our future president. Happy Thanksgiving to all, including the radical left lunatics who have worked so hard to destroy our country. Oh, I was dying when I seen it. Dude, I was dying, I was absolutely dying.
Speaker 3:I kind of feel like those three messages kind of put 2024 in a nutshell. And then Ohio State. Did you see that yesterday I ain't turn on the TV? And it wasn't just Ohio State, ohio State started. Did you see that yesterday I didn't turn on the TV? So, and it wasn't just Ohio State. Ohio State started it certainly, but they definitely were with. They definitely were not like the main, like the only ones. In fact, they didn't even have the biggest fight of it all.
Speaker 3:So Michigan beats Ohio State yesterday, okay, they beat Ohio State. And then, after beating Ohio State, they try to plant their flag on the field in Columbus and Ohio State said, oh hell, no. So an all-out brawl erupts on the field. You know what I mean, it was wild. And then, like they get it almost broke up, and then another Michigan player starts running around and he's got this flag and he's like waving it. And they snatched it up, ripped it off of there, threw it on the ground. It was, it was nuts. And I'm like man, this is crazy, it's wild, I mean it, it just was, just it was wild. And then he ends up, uh, uh, ryan day ends up like saying at the end of it going, going, going. Yeah, our guys are proud.
Speaker 3:So when they tried to plant their field, they just weren't having it. That's all he said about it. That's it. And I heard he got fined like a million dollars or some shit. You know what I mean? Because he didn't come out better than that, basically. But I mean they weren't the only ones that did this yesterday. I mean they started it. They were the first one that seemed like Well, actually I think there was one that was taking place At the same time, actually right around the same time. I mean it's nuts, like it's an actual full on brawl.
Speaker 1:It's wild as shit.
Speaker 3:And you think you go. Oh man, that's wild. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:They ain't getting hurt, though they're uniformed up.
Speaker 3:I mean, except for the fact that the security in Columbus, the security in Columbus, frickin' maced all the Michigan players. You've seen the Michigan players on the side of the field going you know like with their eyes and stuff, but you didn't see any Ohio State players over there doing it. I'm not saying I did that on purpose, but yeah, so it happened. The same thing South Carolina and Carolina. They tried to plant their flag and it and a fight broke out. And then Arizona, arizona state they tried to put their like I guess it's like a spear, pitchfork, whatever, like that Neptune spear type thing. They tried to stick that in the middle of their logo and they, fricking, came out and we're fighting. They were like arm wrestling over it, basically. And then Florida and Florida State same thing. Florida and Florida State looked like a bigger brawl, honestly, like a way bigger brawl. It was wild.
Speaker 3:And Ohio State losing yesterday means Ryan Day's got to lose his job, I think. I mean he hasn't beat, he can't beat Michigan, he's 10-1 going into the game yesterday and Michigan's like what, 5-6 or 6-5 or something like that, and you can't beat them. And our kicker as who lost, that kicker missed two field goals. 34 and 38 yarders Should be like a chuck them in there type, you know what I mean and he misses them. And then all of a sudden we get uh, we get what we get, I guess I don't know. Pretty wild day though for college football, right, I mean it's rivalry. Rivalry week is always rough, but that was a little bit much they're probably gonna make some kind of rule about that.
Speaker 1:Now, what do you mean?
Speaker 3:I'm wondering, like I you know, what if they like suspend them and won't let them play? Because, like I think, ohio state's still going to be in the playoffs at this point? They'll just be down. They were like number two and they expanded it this year, so there's like eight teams or something instead of just four, so they'll actually still end up in the playoffs. But what if they like suspend some of the players and then all of a sudden they're not? You're in the playoffs with not your, not your good good players and you know yeah, it's kind of rigging it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, that's no different than the freaking the. The one team Did you see the volleyball team, the college volleyball team, the girls volleyball when they're freaking San Jose, I think, is who it is. They're like in the playoffs now and I think they're like in almost like the final games of the playoffs too, and some of it's because nobody will even play them, because they got like a superstar on their team. That's a guy. That's a transgender.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't play him either.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So there's a lot of teams that just went, nope, not playing them. Wow, yeah, and they've rolled on it a couple times Like everybody's going oh, it's okay. I mean, the superstar of the team on a woman's team on a woman's team, it's a man as a man. Yes, absolutely. That's insanity. That doesn't make any sense. But that's where we're at. So they really don't care if it's rigged or not yeah, people are.
Speaker 1:They're just not gonna deal with anymore but they're dealing with that right now.
Speaker 3:I heard, too, like part of that. Like I guess, if San Jose goes any further, I think, like the next state that they go in, there's rules where she, where the the, that they can't play a transgender, and the next is it Michigan, maybe I can't remember where they said they would have to play next, which I don't understand because I thought the ncaa was just the rules were across the board, I thought.
Speaker 1:But I did see something about that. Yeah, like I said, pretty soon it's going to be. They're just ain't going to tolerate it. If you go to a boxing match and you're a female and you're on dc, there's a biological man across the ring, you're going to be like I ain't playing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like that one you said, that one you said a long time ago I'm going to dominate this league.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was in the UFC or not UFC. It was a mixed martial art thing. Yeah, I don't think it was UFC, though, but yeah, people are just going to be like yeah, I ain't doing bye, so and that's what they should do.
Speaker 3:I'm not. I'm not saying you're wrong, I think you're right.
Speaker 1:They should just well, biological guy, well, not doing it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, it's common sense. It seems like that's just, that's how you retaliate. It's like there's no adults in charge. Yeah, like we said that before, it's like there's no adults in charge, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:That's like would you put your little girl in a little wrestling match with the guy? No, no, I wouldn't. They do, though. Girls be kicking their ass sometimes too, Can you imagine?
Speaker 3:it Well, I mean, it's still fucked up, but it's different to wrestle than it is to box, I think, In my opinion, but same with volleyball. It's a little different than boxing, but still it doesn't make sense. Why should these girls that work so hard have to go compete with?
Speaker 1:men, why is this a question? Why are you even talking about this? And they talk about someone's rights.
Speaker 3:You're ruining the whole NCAA female volleyball squads. Their rights are all being revoked for one person. It doesn't make sense. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I take the loss, I just walk away.
Speaker 3:That's what they did. There's been like three teams, I think that have done. That just went. Yep, oh well, forfeit, yeah, so they're like in where they're at and they haven't even played any playoff games yet because people were just like nope oh well, so what does that do to the integrity of the whole sport?
Speaker 3:it destroys it, in my opinion. Yeah, that's that's, you know. I would think so. I don't know, but anyways, yeah, that's going on, which that's a big deal like to everybody, everybody's freaking out about over to san jose bullshit, you know what I mean which I don't understand why the NCAA can even make that argument, or try to make that argument. I don't even understand how they can even believe that's possible, that that's the right move. I don't know, and it just doesn't make sense to me, but it is what it is, I guess. So what do you got for your year in review?
Speaker 1:Nothing, it's been a rough year for me, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I almost killed Dylan's cat. How it's really maybe out yet still, I'm still not in the clear. I don't think 100%. What did you do to it? Well, my mom, her vet, gives her dog flea treatment for the cat and she's put her on it before and she's got some flea things going on like mites or something, and we put it on her before and it made it go, it, go away. It was great. She got it from her vet, you know.
Speaker 3:So thanksgiving day, when she's over, she orders, you know the medicine and amanda goes. Well, it's for dogs, and I go, I go, but my mom put it on it before. Who cares? So I put it on. Well, then amanda starts researching it after I put it on. Mind you like she could have researched this shit before. I'm just saying she puts it on.
Speaker 3:And the one my mom put on before was advantage and all over the internet they say advantage is great, it works great on cats, you could split it between the cat dogs, wonderful. But what my mom bought was advantage and it's got a 44 of it as a medicine that's could be fatal to a cat. So we read that and all of a sudden I'm with soap and water, trying to wash it off of her and stuff. She's acting funny like she's just hanging out in dylan's room like not coming out. I actually walked her over to the water bowl yesterday. She did get some water, but yeah, dylan will not forgive me, it will not happen. There's there will be no forgiving me if I kill this cat that would be his mom killing his cat.
Speaker 3:How I put it on her. She didn't want to put it on her. Oh, I thought you meant it would be me and my mom did it. But who got the stuff?
Speaker 1:my mom oh, so it's your mom's fault, not yours.
Speaker 3:No, it ain't my mom's fault. Well she, I mean, we didn't know. I mean you know what? Honestly, it's the vet's fault, because the vet's the one who's given her this stuff, you know, and it's why. Is it too that it's like the chemical in it, or even the name brand, advantix Advantage, you know what I mean. Like how are you supposed to really remember for sure that it was advantage last time and not advantage like now, to this day? I would remember. But I mean, your vet gives you advantage and you put it on your for dogs and you put it on your cat. It works.
Speaker 3:Why wouldn't you buy advantage and put it on your dog and it works, your cat and it works. I mean, why wouldn't you? I mean that didn't make sense. But then when you look, there's a chemical that's in Advantix, that's not in Advantage which, by the way, is only a couple letters off of the actual chemical that is in Advantage and not in Advantix, like you, really like you'd never look at it and go, oh, it's got that, because it looks exactly like what it says on that rep. Like it's crazy. Because it looks exactly like what it says on that rep, like it's crazy. Did you just say that it was the vet's fault. Yeah, how? Because he gave her flea medicine for a dog and told her it's okay and works.
Speaker 1:But if you'd got the same one he gave, then it would have been all right, I get that, but you're going to give her one that sounds so close.
Speaker 3:Like how are they supposed to know why even do that if it's not made for cat or cats, and why would a veterinarian give it to them? Didn't you say it worked great? It did work great, but why? That's why well, don't they have flea ones that work great for cats? Probably not, I'm guessing they probably do why do they have it then?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:The one works for dogs, works really good, right well it did in the case that we had it worked really well that was the one he suggested getting before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he never suggested getting that one?
Speaker 3:yeah, but what I'm? Yeah, but they're spelled so close, like it was just that's just an accident waiting to happen. You know what I mean? That's just an accident waiting to happen. It's like. It's like when you order, like I remember years ago I was downtown Cleveland and I ordered um, it was right when we're from shot to come out from shot. Uh right, when it came out, I ordered I wanted Jack, honey and rum shada. It tastes like a Cheerio. You know what I mean. And I'm downtown at. I forget where we were, I can't remember, but we're downtown Cleveland, one of the big bars, it's loud, and I tell them what I want and I throw it back.
Speaker 3:Dude, I almost fucking puked because she got me cumshada and honey cereal or honey jack. Oh my god, it was the worst thing ever. She couldn't hear me, though, I guess, and it sounded so much like that. So it's similar. It's a similar thing when they're spelled the same or sound the same, or whatever you want to call it. It's I mean. How are you supposed to know the difference? That's just dumb in my sound the same, or whatever you want to call it, it's I mean. How are you supposed to know the difference. That's just dumb in my opinion. Or why don't they just label one with cat medicine on it, you know, with the same ingredients on that one, but it's for cats, safe for cats.
Speaker 3:It should say right, something. Either way, I'm in trouble If that cat dies, is all I'm saying I'm. I mean Dylan will hate me, not even a little bit. He'll hate me, Like literally hate me. Not much I could do about that. He's going to hate me and we've washed it off of her now and stuff, but I don't know it says could cause vomiting seizures and then it says could be fatal. So what I'm praying for is that yesterday I gave it to her no, no, not yesterday, the day before, so Friday. But she wasn't acting right yesterday for sure Wasn't acting right. Scary Dylan will freaking hate me, me dude. It will hate me, absolutely hate me.
Speaker 1:I can't have it so why don't you just take it to the vet take what to the vet?
Speaker 3:because they're both, because for one that cat's it's a burden to take that cat to the vet. That cat doesn't leave the house. That cat won't leave the house, it won't go outside. You could open the doors, leave them all wide open. That cat will look out there, but it'll never leave the house.
Speaker 3:So to cage it up and take it, there is a pain in the ass and I don't think you need to take it to a vet for fleas. Oh, you mean right now, yeah, and I don't think you need to take it to a vet for fleas. Oh, you mean right now, yeah, oh, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I probably should, but she's not showing any symptoms. If she does, we will for sure.
Speaker 3:The only thing she's doing is laying around, which I don't know what that means. But I mean she's not like she's fine, she's running around, like she not running around, but like yesterday she came out, she ran up to Amanda and then I put her over there by her food and then she ran back up into Dylan's room. So she's moving around, fine, but she is laying around in his room for sure, a hundred percent. Throwing up isn't throwing up or nothing, and we washed it off, like within 20 minutes, something like that. We washed it off of her. So I don't know Scary though I don't want to be that Dylan will hate me. Legit, he's a cat lover, which is weird. I liked cats too, but I wasn't really a cat lover like him. That's odd, isn't it. Nah.
Speaker 3:Which now he's starting to get into.
Speaker 1:Tipsy though, yeah, but yeah, he's never been like it's about the same thing though no, because you know, dogs and cats are different. That dog, that little ass thing. Yeah, it's about the same thing.
Speaker 3:Little. That dog weighs 25 pounds or something now, but it's still this big.
Speaker 1:Little fat ass. That's what I'm saying. It's fat, it's not fat, it's solid is what it is yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a little stout thing, it's cool, it's bleeding, it's got diapers on now, oh jeez, I was getting ready to go on air with's what she said Tipsy is a woman and I'm. At first it took me a second. I'm like, huh, what does that mean? And then I'm like, oh, that's gross.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they're built so weird they can't even like take care of it themselves, so she's got to be on a diaper, cause she can At all. She doesn't take care of anything back there. That's why we had to wipe her ass before. How's that been going? The diaper thing, that's not bad. That doesn't even bother me a little bit. No, you're talking about the ass thing. No, she's good now. Yeah, now, as an adult, right now, there's nothing coming out, but we're keeping her on the same food.
Speaker 1:We don't give a shit and it works I got a friend that feeds this dog all kinds of shit.
Speaker 3:I'm like you're killing that dog, man, that dog's ain't made for that I don't know if they're out in the nature, they just not put their nose in anything they can get their hands on.
Speaker 1:no, no, why not, it's a Dane in nature.
Speaker 3:They wasn't born in the nature and all that shit. Of course they were born in nature when they were original.
Speaker 1:When they were original. Do you mean domesticated?
Speaker 3:Before they were domesticated. I mean, they were a wild animal at one point, right or no?
Speaker 1:I don't know you got dogs. That was bred to be.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, yeah, you do have that, yeah like our maltese is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's feeding it all kinds of weird shit. I'm like you're killing that dog yeah, maltese.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's probably like. Oh, that's one of them long-haired things too. It's probably got all kinds of cocky butt from all that crazy food.
Speaker 1:He just feeds it ham and kielbasa and like pieces of pie and I'm like what the hell are you doing? I didn't know.
Speaker 3:That's how my grandma did. Chico, though Rowdy's dog when he was a kid. Chico, what was it? I don't know what the hell. Chico was.
Speaker 1:I don't know Was it big or small.
Speaker 3:Smaller medium. Maybe it what the hell chico was, I don't know the big or small? Smaller medium. Maybe it wasn't small like mine, but it wasn't a big dog. It was probably medium size chico was. But he would like go cook a chicken and shit like its own chicken yeah, that's, that's.
Speaker 1:I don't know about chicken. I'm just saying all the weird shit, like you know, that process shit, a lot of process shit.
Speaker 3:I'm like, yeah, kiboshies and shit I'm like it's not good for us to eat processed shit either yeah, I think we could handle it more.
Speaker 1:No little maltese I doubt it, shit.
Speaker 3:Their life's already short.
Speaker 2:So if they're, if their life, is like 14 years and you get beat at that and it's lives 12.
Speaker 3:That's no different than us when we cut ourselves off and we live 100 years, or we live 60, gonna live to 12, it's gonna be about seven.
Speaker 1:The shit he feeds his dog. I'm like dude, you're killing that dog. I don't know, I don't care what you say, that's pretty rough. 12 or 7 damn what I tell them to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a little bit much. 12 or 7 I don't think that's true, though. 12 or 7 or 7 I mean that's too too. We'll see that seems too like like two what?
Speaker 1:what do you mean? The dog's two right now, oh, yeah, but that doesn't matter okay, well, it don't matter yet we'll see trying to look at what my photos are you know, you know what I'm saying. I'm just never wrong, and that's the problem. You're never wrong. That's what I think sometimes.
Speaker 3:He's never wrong. Dylan got his PC for his birthday. He's got like a gaming PC. It's got a screen that's probably as wide, as long as this one that we have behind us, but it's only like this wide, like this tall, say, 12 inches tall, 49 inches wide. He's been on it, yeah yeah. Yesterday he had his birthday party. All the kids were over there playing on the big screen Because, you know, down in that lower room we got the big screen down there, so they were all playing on there Because we put that computer in the middle room. I feel like it has to be in the middle room. You can't let a 12-year-old just have a computer in his room, right?
Speaker 1:That's too much. I would let him until he didn't follow the rules, I guess.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't like it. I like to just see what's going on. Catch it in case something happens. Too many people go after kids. Man on that shit. They're creepy bastards.
Speaker 1:I don't trust people what's going to be the difference if he's in his room or he's in that that room? I can see him so he ain't allowed on it when you ain't home well amanda's home.
Speaker 3:He's never at home by himself.
Speaker 1:I understand that. Anyway, I'm saying like you're not going to watch him all the time he's on it.
Speaker 3:But we're always home. Okay, you could see that room from anywhere. Pretty much you could hear what's going on with it, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Dylan's, not a dumb kid.
Speaker 3:First of all, I'm not saying he's a dumb kid. I'm not saying that I'm worried about. I'm not worried about him going to look at porn. I'm sure he's gonna do that when he gets a chance, first chance he gets and you'll know once the he's in his shower for a long like brandon used to be.
Speaker 3:That was the best. When deb come over the one day and she goes, I don't know what the hell's going on. I've been through so much shampoo and you're looking at Brandon sitting there. He's got a butch. His hair's about to.
Speaker 2:I just started dying laughing. She's like quiet, quiet, and I'm like nothing.
Speaker 3:No, I mean I don't 't. I mean that doesn't bother me. I'm worried more about, you know, the adults that go into those gaming sites and like mess with kids, that's what's confusing to me or that's what I don't like, because now it's not like when we were kids, when we played games.
Speaker 3:When we were kids they were independent. Now they're all like linked. So when you're on even a gaming system, you're all over. The world is connected to you. It's not like it used to be. They game together now. That's just. I don't like it. That's not good. So yeah, I'd rather just see what's going on. I'm not saying I'm going to watch him the whole time he's there, but if something odd comes up, I'll catch it, or hopefully he'll catch it. I got a better chance in that room Than in his bedroom, where I never go. That's all I'm saying. No, you're right, he's not a dumb kid. He's not a bad kid either. By any means, he doesn't do too much messed up stuff. That's what I'm saying. No, you're right, he's not a dumb kid. He's not a bad kid either. By any means, he doesn't do too much messed up stuff.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I think I'd have nice talks with him and just put it in his room.
Speaker 3:No, we'll leave it right where it's. At, there you go. I mean, I'm not why. Why, I mean just whatever.
Speaker 1:It could stay there. To me it seems like it's a false, false. How would you say it?
Speaker 3:Like you feel safer, but it's false, it's still I don't know. I feel like it keeps him at least on his toes, where he like at least has to worry that we're going to be watching. I'm not even saying right now, but like a year from now maybe, or six months from now or whatever it is. You know what I mean, because he's already got like this kid, the kid across the street, like, oh, look, it's 4, 20. He's like yeah, you know what I mean. Like, and I'm like, I'm like, what does that mean to you? And he goes, he goes nothing, and then his mom goes. Oh, he's just always watching him, drug shows or whatever, and it's like. It's like I mean, so he's learning stuff that he pretends he doesn't know. Like when we say stuff, he pretends he doesn't understand it, but he knows a hundred. Yeah, he does a hundred percent. That's him. He's like huh, what? He knows 100% what we're talking about every time. But he plays it pretty well, he pretends, and I even think his mom buys it. I believe it.
Speaker 3:His mom had me yell at him yesterday. He got, like his birthday money. He got like 100 bucks. He got 75 and then 25. And he gave it to her both times. And then he's like she said I don't have that, where's that other 25? Cause I gave it to you. She said no, and she's looking, she checks everything. She's looking at me. She goes I don't have it. And then she said something to him again.
Speaker 3:He goes check your pocket, mom, it's I don't, I gave it to you and it pissed me off, just the cockiness of it. And I go your mom, I'm yelling at him, dude. I'm like your mom said she don't have it, so check your fucking pocket. I was pissed, you know what I mean. And then Amanda pulls it out of her pocket. I go, never mind. Your mom's an asshole. Yeah, I felt like about I don't know about an inch tall, maybe Something to that effect. It was not good, but yeah. So my year in review is that I got my concrete done, most of your yard, some of my yard, changed that door that I wanted to do, rearranged the outside, put that front porch on which I've been wanting to do, haven't finished a she shed. That's not going to happen in 2024. That's a 2025. That's a project 2025.
Speaker 1:That'd probably springtime be quick.
Speaker 3:What's that?
Speaker 1:Be quick to finish that off in the spring.
Speaker 3:Well it's framed up. I could go finish it now if we wanted to, Just throw a heater out there and work on it if I wanted to. But I just have to have money. I've been broke this year. Man, they're killing me this year. All the money I've had to put out and everything it just like it's too much.
Speaker 1:I've just been steady this year nothing over, nothing under just steady yeah, no, I've been broke yeah, most of the year between jobs. I thought I was gonna have some time off.
Speaker 3:That didn't work yeah, what happened now? What are you gonna get laid off now or no? Yeah, a couple weeks. It'll be a couple weeks, though let me see. Yeah, right before christmas, something like that. That's perfect. Good thing you don't have a family. Yeah, that's right. You have to get all your shopping done before Christmas. I'm going to take that last paycheck that I get the time before Christmas. That's when I buy all my Christmas presents. Yeah, it's one week's check. That's pretty much how I've been my whole life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like I said, this year has been just steady, like I ain't had really financial problems and I ain't really accomplished stuff I wanted to.
Speaker 3:Oh, this has been the worst. Well, the thing is is the electric bills are outrageous right now. You know, gas isn't too bad. Water bills like I got water bill. Like I got water bill, I got sewer. I got storm, I got yeah, that's it's. There's four bills for the water service that comes here. I got to pay a leery little water, lorraine water. I got to play storm, and then there's a whole another septic one I have to pay so leery is not the same right as lorraine about garbage.
Speaker 1:It's not with your water. Or is it separate or is it together?
Speaker 3:I'm not in O'Leary, I'm in a township, but I pay separate. But I'm in a township. But this year they switched to Rumpke instead of. It's been that Allied Waste Management forever and all of a sudden it's Rumpke now.
Speaker 1:They lost that contract. Rumpke's been booming around here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're tearing it up. I don't know what the difference is. I know Allied got a hold of me to try and put a dumpster here, but it's like, yeah, I just don't feel like playing those games with anybody. I mean I've put Rumpke's, been here since I've had the place and the bill hasn't changed. That's a long time for the bill to have not changed. I think I'm going to roll with that. I don't have to worry about them upping me next month or upping me. I mean it's changed because I got a bigger dumpster, because I remember we used to have a lot smaller dumpster and did not work, Not with the patio.
Speaker 3:Once the patio went on I couldn't use that smaller dumpster no more. But yeah, I just. I mean it's been the same, I haven't had no issues with it, but electric-wise it's outrageous. The electric bills here, the food bills, have been outrageous and sales have been down. I think people just aren't coming out as much, Because you would think this year I should have had a lot of business. Faze has closed down the street.
Speaker 3:They just closed down that long ago, yeah, but I haven't seen anything from that. Of course she told everybody I was racist before she quit. You know what I mean, Right? And then Maple. I really don't have a lot of Maple crowd to come in here. I think people just can't afford to go out right now. I think everybody's strapped because groceries, electric.
Speaker 1:You know there's like I don't know. I don't see too many people at bars like they used to be, like every. It was like the big Friday night thing is go to the bar.
Speaker 3:And 20, up until 2020, and even after we reopened in 2020, but then after that it's just kind of like died off and they're none of just kind of like died off and none of them are staying open later anymore.
Speaker 1:And it's just I don't know. It's a weird business to be in right now in this area. Anyways, yeah yeah, you just don't see it like it. Like I said, when we was younger, in our late 20s or whatever, that was the thing.
Speaker 3:You find a different bar or a bar to go to on a friday yeah, well, you had a thursday night bar spot, you had a friday night spot and a saturday spot. That's just kind of how it was. Yeah, and in fact at some point I think we even had like some tuesday night spots too, or something like for pool or something.
Speaker 1:But you know, back then, I don't remember too many of them being open on sunday bars. I don't. I don't remember too many of them being open on Sunday Bars. I don't know. I don't remember too many of them, because I remember we would want to do something on a Sunday and we're like, ah, they're closed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, it's different.
Speaker 3:It's definitely different and I'm feeling it because it costs the same to run the refrigeration in the bar. It costs the same with the electric to cool off the place, light the place Like it doesn't matter. So if sales are down and those bills are going up, that's a problem. You know what I mean and I'm glad I put new like units in here, like air conditioners and furnaces when I did, because had I not done that, who knows where my bill would have got, because that reduced it at the time almost immediately. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:But then all of a sudden it started catching back up to where it was before. You know, because of the bill. I mean that's $1,800, $1,900. In the summer it was, you know, but it's only like, say, $1,600 now, $1,700 without the—. So the air conditioning doesn't really cost me that much. With the new units in there. It's pretty efficient actually. Oh yeah, works pretty good. Before it would be nice and cool in here and then it would be cost me that much. With the new units in there it's pretty efficient actually.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah works pretty good. Before it'd be nice and cool in here and then it'd be hot the same day.
Speaker 3:You're like what the hell shut down, or whatever yeah, somebody said we don't have the working crowd anymore, lorraine on welfare, and it's sad but true. I mean I think she's. I think there's something to be said about that. I think that's true to some degree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's definitely true, we had a mill board Well we didn't have that in 2019.
Speaker 3:Oh no, no, I'm just saying we did okay in 2019. I don't know, I really don't know. I don't know what's causing it, but I think that it's just the actual cost of going out and, quite frankly, it's more expensive to eat now when you come out here. You know what I mean. I mean, back then I think you could do a burger for like eight bucks. Now they're like $15 for a burger. So not only are your bills higher at home, it's going to cost you more to go out.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you go out, say you, and you take somebody with you, like your girlfriend or your wife or something, you go to the bar and have a drink and eat some food, I mean, you probably are looking at spending 50 to 60 bucks. You know what I mean At least. Yeah, and that that's a lot. One of the guys you know, if you did that once a week, that's a lot. If you do it twice a week, it's fricking a huge chunk of your paycheck. You know what I mean. And your bills are higher at home. Your groceries are higher, you're, you know, everything's higher and your hourly is staying the same. And your hourly is staying the same, right? Yeah, you know that's that's a big thing with this whole like illegal immigrants that they keep talking about that Did you see?
Speaker 3:They were saying they had somebody said who's gonna who's gonna um, pick our strawberries and who's gonna do our drywall and who's going to do all these different things? And it's like, has America, like it's just slave labor, that's all they care about? Like they just they want cheap slave labor. That's what they want. I mean, that's that's that's what they want. That's what they're trying to use illegal immigrants as people that can't turn them in for not paying them enough. That's what it is. That's ridiculous. I mean it's like you're supposed to like as Americans, get over it. You're going to have to pay for services. If you want somebody to do something for you, you're gonna have to pay for services. If you want somebody to do something for you, you're gonna have to pay for it or you're gonna have to go do it yourself. I mean, that's just the way it is no, it's not the way it is.
Speaker 3:It's the way it is, should be. I mean, that's the way it's gonna be. I mean, if you get rid of illegals and they're not picking cotton and maid services, and that's all it is. They're like trying to get all these different things for cheap and, quite frankly, they're the same things that slaves were doing in the slavery days. It's like nobody wants to pay for their services.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the American way. That's ridiculous. Have them all work and don't pay them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1:That's how it's always been.
Speaker 3:And if you talk about the illegals that come into the country, think about the fact that I had some move in across the street from me about four years ago in one of the houses that's a rental over there. There was about eight of them in there. They'd load up in their van and go to work. So what are they but slaves? It's the same thing. A slave owner used to make sure you had food and housing and take care of you. However, he needed to take care of you, and that's all they're doing is giving them just enough money to do that. But there's a big difference. What's the difference?
Speaker 1:They're not made to do it. I get it. They're not whipping them, no.
Speaker 3:I ain't saying whipping them.
Speaker 1:I'm difference. They're not made to do it. I get it. They're not whipping them. No, I ain't saying whipping them, I'm just saying they're not forced to do it, I don't know. And then when they go home and take that little bit of money they're making here and they go home, that's a lot of money there. So that's benefiting them. I'll see.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I don't like it. I think it needs to just all go away.
Speaker 1:It's not going to, but I'm just saying it.
Speaker 3:May it may. I doubt it. There's a possibility it could happen. It'll never happen. Greed's too powerful. It's got to stop, though. We have to stop that shit. It has to. And you know what's going to help stop it is all the automation. I mean, let's face it, they don't have to really pick strawberries anymore. They got combines that'll pull them up or equipment that could be attached to combines that'll pull them up. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get it, you're talking one thing.
Speaker 3:Well, it's everything, though I mean. Robots will give us free labor again.
Speaker 1:Man, it's going to be how long before that's in effect I don't think it's as far off as you.
Speaker 3:I mean they, they've shown them out there doing everything they did. You see, kardashian took one shopping with her. It was like carrying her bags, walking behind her. It was out in the public doing its thing, walking around that's carrying her bags, okay, but it ain't.
Speaker 1:It ain't doing a skilled labor.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying they could be designed and built to do each product thing too. So instead of like having one robot that's universal, you could have one that's designed to hang drywall yeah well, you know what I mean. You could have one that's designed to frame a house you could have. I mean, they could all be that way.
Speaker 1:Good, I want to come fold my clothes.
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't know, it's just, there's an obsession in.
Speaker 1:America with that.
Speaker 3:And they're saying the same things, like the Democrat Party is saying the exact same things that they said when they were trying to get not abolish slavery, and that was that who's going to do these jobs that Americans don't want to do? That's what they're saying.
Speaker 1:Well, the pay is going to go up. Somebody's going to go do it.
Speaker 3:That's what I said. That's what I was mad at Bush years ago. Bush said that we need illegal immigrants to do the jobs Americans don't want to do. And it pissed me off because I thought immediately Americans just don't want to do them for nothing. You know what I'm saying. Like they don't want to do them for free. It's not that they won't do them, it's just they don't want to do them for nothing and plus.
Speaker 3:But the other thing with that is like those jobs like picking strawberries and blueberries and stuff like that, those are kids jobs too. Those are supposed to be like kids in high school earning some extra money. You know what I mean? That's how it used to be. I remember we used to go to Avon and pick. What was it? I think it was grapes. We would go pick in Avon but right on the corner where all that shopping centers and stuff are, we would go and earn extra money picking grapes over there with them, with somebody I forget who it was. I'd have to ask Danny who we were over. It was one of somebody we knew that we would go over. It was like her dad's house and we'd get paid to pick, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was probably just doing you guys a favor.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, they pay the kids in the neighborhood. They would get paid per bushel. That's how you'd go there and you'd get paid per bushel. That's the way it used to be Like. That's how it, that's how it was getting picked after. It was no slaves, you just have kids. Same as like. When they're trying to say that McDonald's needs to pay a living wage no, they don't. Pizza shops don't need to pay a living wage. They don't. I mean, those are jobs for high school kids. That's where the high school kids are supposed to be working, or college kids, whatever it is, but they're not people supporting their families.
Speaker 3:If you have a family, go look for a better job. Do whatever you have to to get a better job. Mcdonald's you can get better. No, you can, but not at some local pizza shop or whatever. But Do better for yourself. You've got a family. It's your responsibility, not the country's. It's your responsibility to go do better for your family. It's what it is. It's your responsibility. You've got a family. You get your ass out there and make a way for your family. Be a man. But that's not what they want. They want us to dumb it down. So if your back's hurting, just go to work. Figure it out. Be a man, be a man, that's right. Figure it out, take some leave and move on. That's what I do.
Speaker 1:Them videos are pretty funny. They got it, does that?
Speaker 3:That's the problem, too, is they're trying to get rid of masculinity and the like. The whole world, like it's always horrible to be you know? Like, isn't that you ain't got a man? Explain it to me, it's like no, you do need a man explain it to you. You do see some mansplaining. It sounds like you know what I mean that, but they want it to make it bad.
Speaker 1:If you Well, the women are trying to be more masculine now, and it's kind of gross to me, but whatever.
Speaker 3:So the theory is I have to or the world needs to accept me. I was born this way. Unless it was a masculine man Right, you know what I mean Then that's not acceptable and we're born that way. I mean a masculine man is born that way. I mean from the time they're young. That's just who they are for the most part. No.
Speaker 1:I think it's a lot to do with their upbringing.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, that's nurture over nature, they say. But I mean, I think it's a combination. I'm a firm believer in both. I think it has a lot to do with your upbringing Somewhat, To some degree.
Speaker 1:But I mean, Like you said, your dad used to take you on routes when you were young. He did. He took you on all kinds of jobs when you was young he did. So that gave you a putting it in the direction I'm saying.
Speaker 3:To some degree, yeah, but I mean everybody in my house would work to always Exactly. That's just how you did it.
Speaker 1:If you had let's just put it out there two women that raised you and from being born you wasn't raised with a few women, the hell I wasn't.
Speaker 3:What are you talking? About, so your dad wasn't involved in, which Not very much my dad. No, my dad was not my dad. I would go see on occasion, not even every weekend. No, my dad was not my dad. I would go see on occasion, not even every weekend. My dad lived in California and Alabama a huge portion of my life. He didn't come back here until I was about 17, 16.
Speaker 1:You didn't work with him when you were younger.
Speaker 3:I would work with Randy more than my dad, because my dad wasn't around.
Speaker 1:A male figure is what I'm saying. I ain't saying just your dad, but I'm saying a male figure was in your life. I get that. Yeah, and you worked. They taught you some ways.
Speaker 3:I mean, randy was like, if I was, I mean he was smoking weed with us when we were like 13 doing roofs. That was a bad example. You got the roofs done though, didn't you? We did get the roofs done. Yes, we did. But yeah, I mean no, I was raised by two women. I mean to say I wasn't is just that's a horrible explanation.
Speaker 1:That's not what I'm saying. Though you had men in your life that would take you on jobs and show you a manly way, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That is true, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure I mean I did it early on, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know, didn't you went from there and kept doing the manly ways.
Speaker 3:I you know what, honestly, that might have came from my adulthood, though from jimmy dean, when I met jimmy dean probably, honestly I, as much as I hate to admit it yeah, jimmy dean probably taught me more about that aspect. I always was a hard worker. I, my dad busts his ass, so I was always like, I felt like that's how you do it, Once you clock in you go Right.
Speaker 3:Jimmy, probably I would say probably taught me more about just being a man in general, because my dad, to be a man, was hard work. You know what I mean. To Jimmy Dean, being a man was more like you know, taking care of your bills and your family. You know what I mean. My dad, your family, was always taken care of, but you didn't have the best, but you never. I mean you weren't going to go without 100%, but you weren't going to have, like you know, anything nice. You weren't going to have anything nice. You didn't have the new shoes you wanted. If I had the new, shoes.
Speaker 1:I was going to go earn them. You weren't buying them. I mean, that was just how it was See, he taught you. You want it, you better go get it. I ain't giving it to you.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, I mean Herman was. My mom was with Herman until I was God. I don't remember how old I was when Herman got out of there, maybe 13, maybe 12. I don't know, 12, 13, when Herman got out. From that age on, it was two women raising me. Yeah, 100%. But my mom was. I mean, she was rough on me, she wasn't going to let you slack off. You know what I mean. She believed in you. Better be a man. You need to be a man. You know it's be a man. You need to be a man. You know it's just how she was in general. But yeah, so yeah, I was raised by two women. To say I wasn't as an insult to my mother and to nelly whatever you say, that wasn't what I was saying but you, you could twist it however you want.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just went by what you said, oh, whatever I was saying you had men in your life that showed you manly things. That's what I was trying to say.
Speaker 3:Well, I think that everybody does. It's whether you choose to accept them, like I would always. That's what I'm saying. It's nature over nurture, because, like Brandon I mean and Brandon's manly, but he grew up in the house with, like his dad was like constantly, he had a 66 bet, he had an old Harley, he would tear him down, rebuild him, stuff like that. Brandon couldn't frickin do anything with the car, I mean, he couldn't change the oil because he just had no interest in it. But me, when I was a kid, I would walk over to Dale's and just like that's what I mean. I just I couldn't help myself. He's working on a car. I'm going to help him. I was pumping the brakes or you know what I mean. Whatever I needed to do.
Speaker 1:I kind of just just find what I'm saying no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:I did, but I chose to go towards him. Brandon was raised by just a man and didn't do any of those things. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:He had never had any way total character than what we're talking about here.
Speaker 3:It's nature over nurtures, all I'm saying. I think nature plays a big part of it and, yes, you can have people that you go, but if you don't go to them, as what I'm saying, some people just by just the way it is, that's just they want that that attracts them. It's just like, like my wife you put on a story on the news about who knows, like, like well, like Israel and Palestine. When I'm talking to that guy and that that's interesting to me, I just I, I want to know about it. Her friend come come over yesterday for Dylan. I'm asking them about stuff. You know what I mean, cause they're Palestinian and her, her mom, actually lives over there now and she was there.
Speaker 3:She can't even speak English but I was asking questions and I just can't help myself. Man, I don't give a shit or care. Like that's just like you're annoying, or even having a conversation, she paid so little attention. She's like you didn't make them mad, did you? I'm like for what? I just asked a couple of questions. She's like okay, I'm just checking and just making sure she don't, it just has no interest in it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. How did they? They react to you asking them questions.
Speaker 3:Well, um, they reacted Okay, Um, and I'm I didn't push nothing. Like you know what I mean. Like I didn't push. Like she says that you know, like when they have Israel people in there, you know that they take care of them and they return them in good health and things like that, and that when Jews have Palestinians, they come back, they're sick, sometimes they die. They don't even pay attention. That's what she says. She said there you land, they take their land, all that stuff. Yeah, that's one side of the story though.
Speaker 3:I mean they did take their land. That is a factual thing. In 48, they basically came in and gave them what's now Israel. They went into Palestine and gave it to them After World War II and all that. They gave Israel their own state, essentially, and they pushed out all the Palestinian people. And I'm not saying that, that's that. I'm not saying I'm defending the Palestinians, but it's a true fact that that is in fact what happened.
Speaker 3:Now the thing is why they can't live together. I don't understand. I don't understand why they can't just live together Like we do in the United States, together, like you know, I'm next to somebody who's Palestinian and say you know what I mean, and, and, and I have friends that are Jewish, I have friends that are Muslim, I have friends that are, you know, don't even believe in any God whatsoever. So I mean, I just look at it. And I have friends that are, um, harry Kushner, whatever. So I mean it just. I mean why can't they just live that way? Why is there this? There's constant anger. And then I, when I asked her, she said well, the problem is that the young kids, you know, she said they grow up and cause there has been a lot of wars there. Like you know, he even talked about it when he was in, when I had him on the interview. He was talking about how there was a war there, all the different wars, and he's been to three of them in 91 or something, 2005. And then you know this recent one. He went back there, recent one. He went back there. So you know, you think about that. 91, 2005 and 24. Those are people who their kid they, when they were kids, they probably lost their parents or they lost somebody that was important to them, and a lot of times it is their parents. So they're pissed off, they want revenge. You know what I mean and that that that's, that's a something I don't know how you get away from it.
Speaker 3:I suggested to her that what they need is the mafia over, and that's something I don't know how you get away from it. I suggested to her that what they need is the mafia over there. That's what I think would solve it. She said they would kill them. I believe it, I believe it wholeheartedly An organized crime syndicate like we had in the United States, dropped in there.
Speaker 3:If they started doing that, I think it would. I think it would a hundred percent. They would get control, because the problem is is in Palestine they're not doing anything. They're not doing any business in palace and in Gaza. So right now there really isn't much business being done in there. Everybody who worked worked in there even before October 7th. Mostly were in construction and they were working in Israel for Israel people. They weren't doing like. They don't have any factory there where they're building their own thing. They don't have a resort. I mean, they've got all that beachfront. They could have a resort. If you put in a mafia where they want to make money, they put a nice resort up there. The Israelis would be over there vacationing and the mafia would be making sure that everything was in check so that nobody freaking you know ruin their money that's flowing in. Yeah, I believe that's what they need. Organized crime, I swear to god, I think that's what they need who the hell did you hear that?
Speaker 3:I made it up thank god I think that's the only answer. There's no other answer. I don't think with them, because the problem is Like right now, what they have is they have a leader who's running things.
Speaker 1:That Is focused on Is focused on.
Speaker 3:Israel, and they want the land to the sea.
Speaker 1:Or from the mountain. That's the leader. But I'm saying you change the leadership, then it's going to go a different way.
Speaker 3:But they've changed it a million times.
Speaker 1:The people with the same kind of agendas, you change the leadership and that's where it's at. Yeah, I don't know about no mafia shit.
Speaker 3:I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, I think that's what it needs. Organized crime. I think if the palestinians got together, so a group of them, a good group of them, and they did mafia mentality and ran through Gaza, that within 10 years that place would be making money, profiting, taking care of itself and all the crime stuff would go away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you just put better leadership in there.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think so. I think that's what you need Mafia True story. I believe it because the problem with the leadership is that the leadership, the leadership, is there. All they're doing in that leadership role is they're trying to get help from everybody else. They want money from Iran, they want money from Saudi Arabia, they want money from. They need to be supporting themselves and they're not going to do it until like a mafia type company or a mafia group comes in there. And I'm not saying for like an Italian group to come in. I'm saying they need to build their own network and, instead of being terrorists to try and go kill Israel or whatever, turn Gaza into the most glamorous thing in the world. Why not?
Speaker 1:Probably got a lot of natural resources over there they don't use.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They definitely got all that beachfront. You could have a resort town dude. Everybody would be there if there was no fear of getting blown up and and all the anger and stuff that's going on there. And if you had the mafia in charge over there, they'd make sure of it. You wouldn't go turn your back on the mafia. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, but other people's- goals ain't the same as other people's goals. Like you're, you're thinking money, resort, blah, blah, blah. They don't want that, they want land they want their.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what he said in his book is that they won't go to the beach or anything of that nature, because they don't want the world to see them enjoying life.
Speaker 3:They want to want the world to see them as miserable. That's silly. That's why. Why? Because you want help. If you had the finances, you wouldn't want help If you were.
Speaker 3:If you were making money over there, if everybody in Gaza strip was making money, putting additions on their houses and not living in tents, fricking, enjoying life, having nice vehicles and some nice things, they probably would be just fine with how things are. But they're not. Instead, they're choosing to be miserable. So the world will help them. They want the world to look at them and help them. Because they have no finances there. They're all like half of them are broke right now because they can't go to Israel, because Israel pulled all their work permits, so now they're all starving over there because most of them are broke right now because they can't go to Israel, because Israel pulled all their work permits, so now they're all starving over there because they most of them work construction in Israel. Yeah, I don't know nothing about all that Now. I didn't either, until I read that book and then I sat and talked with him on that.
Speaker 3:And then I asked her yesterday and she said like I think like her brother's having trouble taking care of her mom because he can't work, because his work permit was taken away, you know, and they're not in Gaza, though they're. I forget what town she said she's in but it's not.
Speaker 3:Gaza Probably falls in the same rules. It's yeah, it's similar, yeah, it's just the same sort of thing. Basically. Well, but yeah, why not have mafia? What's wrong with mafia? I mean, I think not have mafia. What's wrong with mafia? I mean, I think it's a good idea, I don't. I just think you go from the leadership. Don't you think the mafia would have less deaths but more, more controlled deaths than you would have with what's there now, like you're not losing buildings and blowing up everything and hospitals and everything but the mafia, mafia, they're in there, they know, they're those people. They just like you know. You just tread the line. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's just like us saying they should have just left the mafia alone here.
Speaker 3:Well, the mafia still exists here. Yeah, they're all corporate and different, I get it, but they built their. I mean the mafia would disappear once they're making their own money, once they have resorts that are cleaning house and they got a couple factories where they're making money and they're got. I mean, you know that You're trying to create old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trying to create old money is what you're trying to do. Create what Old money?
Speaker 3:No, any money. They don't have any.
Speaker 1:No, that ain't what I'm saying. Any money, no, no, no, you ain't getting what I'm saying. You know how people say old money. That's old money. That's like people that got the money from slavery and all that stuff, and they still got generations, and generations that still got wealth. That's generational wealth. Yeah, right, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You're talking, you're trying to create old money well, they have plenty of that palestinians and and arabics. There's plenty with old money, I mean, but there's plenty that are broke too. Gaza strip is mostly poor, though, but yeah, there's plenty that have old money for sure, there's lots of them that have?
Speaker 1:yeah, but what you're saying is you're trying to create old money. So you're saying go through all the hard times right now so they can build all these resorts and everything else. What you're talking about lakefront, all this stuff. So it ain't going to be beneficial to people now, it's going to be down the road.
Speaker 3:No it will be, because they're earning money building it. They're working and they're not relying on Israel to go to work Right now. They're not relying on Israel to go to work Right now. They're building like Israel. Israel, specifically, prefer Palestinian contractors because they're better at what they do. That's what they said. That was like that's a common thing. Palestinians are better contractors and carpenters than Israelis are. Well, they just need to step their game up. The Palestinians that's what I'm saying For yourself, right, and I think the mob would be the better. I don't agree with that. I think the mob driven by community, a mob, because mobs had their place when they were here. They just did. I mean that Italian communities and stuff that they were in back. When they first started mob, they weren't getting help from the government. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:They had to make it on their own. To me that's two different things. It is Hell yeah.
Speaker 3:How? Because that was was. Do you think America would be where it is today if there was no mob?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, I don't believe that yeah, it's just been a different way, that's all. Oh, yeah, I don't believe that at all different people in places, but it wouldn't be I don't think we'd have fell apart without them.
Speaker 3:I think they were keeping a lot of shit in line. I do they kept their shit in line. I do they kept their neighborhoods in line.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:I think you watched too many movies well, it's true, though, they did keep their neighborhoods in line yeah, to their benefit, to their, their, their way.
Speaker 1:That's all that was. What do you mean? I don't understand that. But they let everybody make money.
Speaker 3:It's not. That was what do you mean? I don't understand that. But they let everybody make money.
Speaker 1:It's not that they didn't let people make money that was like basest on bullying and shit. I don't get that. I don't get how you feel that would be a good thing. I don't. I really don't.
Speaker 3:Because right now, what's going on is they're just spending all their resources and time.
Speaker 1:There's other ways and effort just spending all their resources and time and effort in trying to kill Israel? That would make sense to me.
Speaker 3:Because you can't rely on their leadership, Because their leadership is getting their money solely from Iran or Saudi Arabia. And those people are giving them their money because they want them to attack Israel. That's the only reason they're getting money from them, from Iran, is to attack Israel. Their whole purpose is to attack Israel and she actually told me yesterday she believes that the whole Hamas is ran by Israel and they want them to attack them so that they have an excuse to attack back and take their land. That's what she thinks. She believes that.
Speaker 3:Everybody got different beliefs I didn't say she was right or wrong, but that's what she specifically told me. You know that they want to take everything. They want to take jordan, they want to take egypt, they want to take everything she says yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Let's go back to that. I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't think organized crime is the answer, is what I'm saying well, you can't deal with the politicians that are getting their money from iran.
Speaker 1:I'm just you're right, there's got to be a different solution.
Speaker 3:But I don't think that's it because the, the mafia used to take care of, like if you had a problem. You go to your mafia boss, like, for instance, if you're in that area, you know your water is out you don't have no water, you know and you talk to your mafia boss. He says let's see what we could do. And then you're indebted to him a little bit but he does take care of it because you saw. So organized crime is the answer, is what you think I do. I think it could help Jesus. Okay, I think so. Yeah, I'm not saying for them to be just straight criminals, but yeah, I think they should just organize themselves and take care of themselves and everything else, but like a mafia mentality, is not it?
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 3:We'll agree to disagree, I guess I guess. So yeah, I think it would solve everything over there. That's my opinion. I think it solves it all. I think it'd be a wonderful idea.
Speaker 1:I think you're taking a handful of people and benefiting from it.
Speaker 3:From then, everybody everybody benefits if palestine start or if gaza strip is supporting itself and not having to go do construction in israel. You're probably right they everybody benefits from that, not the way to get there I don't think you're right I don't think so but their leadership ain't doing it any other way, so they should just do it themselves.
Speaker 1:So organize something and do it yourself, not like a mafia crime organization to run it. That, to me, is ridiculous. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I like it. I think it's the way to go Okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just— you know we agree on a lot of things and we disagree on a lot of things. I definitely disagree with that one.
Speaker 3:The thing, because you don't look at the mafia right, I look at the mafia like they're family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're looking at it like it's all. You got their, even if they were just killing you know five people, but they still gave this other family a turkey for Thanksgiving. No, that's to me.
Speaker 3:What I'm saying is that and they go in and shoot you down because you're an asshole, that's so much better than freaking missiles shooting over and blowing up the hospital. That just doesn't make sense. No, I don't agree with you. No, I 100%. I would much rather have you know what. What would you rather live in in Germany and Russia and World War II, or in the streets of New York during mafia times?
Speaker 1:That's a way off thing. That's exactly the same. That's how it is right now. Yes, it is.
Speaker 3:They're leveling their hospitals, they're leveling their houses, they're leveling the neighborhoods and all I'm saying is there's got to be a different solution.
Speaker 1:I don't think bringing an organized crime in there and and trying to just just forcefully, forcefully change it. You know, I'm saying you got to go in not us.
Speaker 3:I'm saying them themselves do it. I'm saying that the palestinians should organize a crime syndicate. That's what I'm saying, not I mean a mafia similar to a crime syndicate. Maybe they're not going to try and push drugs or they're not going to do this, but whatever they do, they do it themselves and they and they put it together and run it on their own and go in there and make their money and as soon as everything gets better, everybody falls in line. That shit that's going on right now, where they're blowing everything up, the freaking it's crazy dude. They're leveling shit and we can't even imagine what that could live look like. I mean, mafia is by far 10 times less than what they got going on right now. They're just like bombs coming in the middle. They have a thing, an app that comes on their phone that, like we do for yeah, you told me before.
Speaker 1:It's like a warning thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, missile incoming warning. That's what comes across Instead of like. We get them and they're annoying with the Amber alerts Amber alerts or tornadoes seat cover. They get them for missiles all the time and it just comes across their phone screaming that there's a missile on the way.
Speaker 1:You think I'm not agreeing with you that it's horrible over there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, but I'm saying mafia is far better, is all I'm saying. Then what? Then? What's going on there today?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I understand that, but I'm saying, mafia is better than what.
Speaker 3:Well, because the problem is is that the government keeps changing and it's going to change hands. So maybe they have peace for 10 years or something, but the mafia wouldn't change. They would just keep things intact for a while. It's just. It's not much different than I mean. The Taliban kept everything together in Afghanistan. They did. The Taliban kept Afghanistan on their toes like they kept everything. Everybody was functioning well, doing their own thing. Now they were a group that wished for worse, though they were like the taliban. They, they, they weren't the. They're too far. The talibans are like they were, extremist on, uh, on the end of of the religion, end of it, the muslim end of it. I'm talking just that soul Like they're out there trying to make money for profit. You're just trying to make money. That's what they're doing there.
Speaker 1:That's their game is to make money. I don't know. I think I think this conversation is kind of I don't know. I don't know anything about that place. I don't claim to, but I don't think an organized crime unit for solving anything is just ridiculous. I don't think so.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like it, I think it would work. Okay, I mean, that's just me, I don't know what else. The other answer is there's no other answer.
Speaker 1:No, that's a weird answer or a solution you came up with.
Speaker 3:I don't think that's it weird answer or a solution you came up with. I don't think that's it. It's it's the the. The other answers are that you put other people in power, but they eventually they get changed out, they get voted out. They did this, they get that, they get blowed up, whatever. And if you put somebody who's, if you put somebody who's in power that's friendly with Israel, then they freak out. They think that you're just coming in to take all everything from them, so it gets even a worse issue. That's how Hamas is in charge today, Because if you're being too friendly with Israel, I think neither one of us know enough about that place to comment on it.
Speaker 3:I've been learning a lot about it as of late, and I think that's the only way I can see. I can't see like cause. To me, the best thing that could happen to that place is if they were a one state solution, like if they just the whole thing just became one state. In fact, I would go a step further. I think that maybe Gaza should be Palestine, you know, israel be Israel, egypt be Egypt, saudi Arabia, but they should unite and be a United States. I think they should be their own states and do a United States, like we do, and they have a federal government that oversees all of it. That's what I think would be actually even the best solution for anybody. There's too many different conflicts. That will never happen, I agree, but I mean we have all the different personalities living in our country and we don't have as much of a problem. But it started as that, though.
Speaker 1:What's that? Our country? To go into something and just change it now and be like oh, this is how it is.
Speaker 3:I mean, it started as Indians' property actually. Well, I know.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying what we're talking about as it is now. It just came from all kinds of cultures coming in.
Speaker 3:Did you see they want to take? There was a woman who suggested that they take what was it Vermont, united States or New York, delaware and connect them to Canada and just leave the United States Because Trump won. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's nuts. That's absolutely insanity we're canadians now yeah, that's what they suggested.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're canadians. Now, that's their suggestion. Bye-bye, it's, it's canada's like. So, like they get that opportunity to just like oh, we have universal health care, we have this, we. Yeah, but you don't pay for fucking wars or soldiers or anything. I mean, come on, shut up, I get tired of hearing their bullshit. I don't want nothing to do with any of that. They're talking about the tariffs, like you know, because Trump said he's going to put 25% on Mexico and Canada and then add another 10% to China. Which tariffs, like you know. Like, because trump said he's going to put 25 on mexico and canada and then add another 10 to china. Which everybody's like. Oh, that's ridiculous only 10 to china, but 25 to our neighbor. But it's that the reason is because we already have high tariffs on china. You know what I mean? They're're already there, they already exist in China. So when you add 10, it's going to be far more than what Canada and Mexico is going to have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the percentage of coming in is just so much more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't understand. Like Mexico I understand, but how come Canada? I don't understand. Like, what do we get from Canada? I know we get lumber from them, crown Royal. Oh, what do we get from Canada? I know we get lumber from them, crown Royal, shit, sierra, miss Canadian Club. It probably comes from New York.
Speaker 1:Drywall. Oh yeah, we used to get it right here at the gypsy plant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I see it a lot of times from Canada. Drywall yeah, lumber, I know a lot of it comes from Canada. Yeah, times from canada. Drywall yeah, lumber, I know a lot of it comes from canada. Yeah, and we used to at one time. Where was a drywall? Like 2007, there was so much construction going on in the united states in 2007 that you couldn't get drywall. It was so hard and we were getting. It was from egypt. We called it elephant board. It was heavy as shit and it kept coming on. Yeah, the paper kept like blistering and shit on it. In fact, that house I had on albrecht we used some of it and it blistered on me because it was from egypt, it was egyptian board oh, what year was that?
Speaker 1:um, there was a thing of bad glue. You remember that they had some bad glue. It was setting setting off fumes out of it.
Speaker 3:And what Glue and drywall. I think it was both.
Speaker 1:Okay, drywall, they had it down there too. They had to rip it off, all kinds of brand-new houses and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was a couple houses. That Egyptian board had to be taken off and you knew it too. It was heavy as shit and it had elephants on it. There was elephants stamped on it, Just like Canada has their thing on it. They probably made them put it on there. The elephants, yeah, I mean they kind of seem like they are into elephants.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm saying they probably had to put some kind of thing on there to identify it as being from where it was from. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:some kind of thing on there to identify it as being from where it was from. You know, I mean, yeah, maybe I don't know. Probably doesn't everybody mark their products anyways, though yeah, but not really generic, think about it yeah, I don't think it's generic, though I think that was probably for them to supply the united states. It was probably a pretty big company, right?
Speaker 1:I mean it probably was a huge. Labeling is like you know. Basically you got to put some kind of identification on it. That's probably what it was, the little elephants.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everybody has to know what it is, where it came from.
Speaker 1:Just a quick glance and you know where it came from.
Speaker 3:Right, right, right right, it was heavy as shit too. I don't know what they used for drywall.
Speaker 1:I don't remember the elephant things on there. I don't remember that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was on the back of it.
Speaker 1:It was on the back of the sheets. I just don't remember it. I probably dealt with it and don't even remember it.
Speaker 3:Johnny Newpin said they don't have funds to organize that sort of thing. They could, though they could. I mean, nobody had funds when they started for anything, didn't they right? Right I mean that's, that's. I mean you have the resources there and hard workers.
Speaker 1:So I mean so you get a businessman to go over there and you get a couple, you pay some guys.
Speaker 3:Good, you know like from there you get groups of guys and you start a business and you start growing and yeah, but when you got like organized a group, that's like going in and killing 3 000 jews right next door, I mean you could who it's hard to get anybody to want to build, you know say a resort when missiles could be coming in anytime soon.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean so you think the organized crowd goes in there and a missile still can't come in there?
Speaker 3:I well, I don't think that. I don't and I could be wrong, but I don't think that if Gaza was friendly to Israel, I don't believe Israel would attack back. I really don't believe that. Let's not even get back on that. You know what I think too? I think that the only thing that we should fund for any country is anti-defense things. I was thinking about that too.
Speaker 1:They would just turn them over to offensive shit.
Speaker 3:Like that Iron Dome that Israel has. To me that's like a peacekeeping piece of equipment. Like I could see the United States funding that. You know what I'm saying. Like I'm okay with that. Like if we're helping, like they want to give like missiles, like like they just gave long range missiles from Ukraine to Russia, they gave them the approval for that US. I don't think that's right. I think the only thing we should ever agree to fund would be anti-missile stuff and things like that. I think that's the only thing we need to agree to a fund over there. Protect them and that's it. You know what I'm saying? That to me, is a peacekeeping weapon.
Speaker 1:There we go. I think we're talking about stuff we don't know too much about. I think a good offense is a good defense.
Speaker 3:I don't know when you look at that Iron Dome in action. That shit is badass.
Speaker 1:I've seen it a couple times.
Speaker 3:I mean that's pretty badass. I could see funding that, not funding shooting ballistic missiles into Russia.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. Good offense is a good defense.
Speaker 3:Not for Ukraine, though. Ukraine, I mean. They can't do that on their own. So now Russia believes that America is attacking them. Because that's what it is, it's an American weapon coming in at them. To me, that's all bad.
Speaker 1:So now there's a See that's where I'm twisted on that. Twisted on that I'm. I'm like if you're gonna go help somebody, you help 100, if you're not just stay out of it.
Speaker 3:You either help them 100 or you will fund an iron dome type situation. That's it. I say all or nothing. Be honest with you. I mean, iron, don't protect you, we will give you this to protect you, or we'll come in and we'll fight it with you.
Speaker 3:One of the two, but no in between, like this bullshit that they're doing now, where they're funding this and fun. And it's the same thing that happened with the osama bin laden. We funded him and so in afghanistan to try and get russia to it, but he was fighting russ Russians actually at the time and we funded him the whole way through. We fund his whole process and then, whenever we turn and we stop, then all of a sudden it's over and now he's hating us because of it. You know what I mean. And we funded the whole thing.
Speaker 3:There was no reason for us to fund that at all. If Russia's in there, nothing for us to do. Now an iron dome yes, or we go in there and actually fight with them, yes, but not just here. Just you do what you do and we'll keep feeding you some weapons and money. You know what I mean. It doesn't make sense to me. If we're going to fund it, the only thing that America should be. First of all, I don't think we should be funding anything because we're $36 trillion in debt. So they said that right now, our interest payments in the in the United States are more than our defense budget is Our interest payments on the money we owe is more than our total defense budget. That is insanity. That doesn't make any sense. And we're giving more money to people. Why would we be giving money we don't have?
Speaker 1:Oh, we got it, we just printed it out.
Speaker 3:But then that reduces the value of your money. I mean, that's where inflation comes in. Well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I think the US should just file bankruptcy and start fresh.
Speaker 3:What would China do if we filed like $36 trillion? Take it as a loss? No, I don't think they would. What are they going to do? They're going to come attack you? Let them. They're going to make you give up land. They're going to make you do something? Nah, I don't think they're going to. I mean, that's $36 trillion, dude. They're not just going to take that. First of all, china's not underneath our bankruptcy laws. You can't just file bankruptcy. That's a world stage that has nothing to do with the United States law.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter. You know, when Bill Clark calls you, just hang up the phone.
Speaker 3:You're like look, dude, I ain't got it, got it bye, but you just see what I'm saying, though I mean you can understand what I'm saying. It doesn't make sense. Why are we giving money to people when we're just borrowing it from someone else?
Speaker 1:that doesn't make sense like I said, there's a lot of things we don't understand about that stuff and I don't really talk about shit like that because I don't understand it you understand you don't loan money you ain't got.
Speaker 3:You understand that you ain't got. That's the problem. They want to make everything complicated. Fuck that. That's not complicated. If I ain't got the money to loan, you ain't got the money to loan. You go talk to china. Why are we paying interest to them to give to someone else? We probably give them money. Let let china give that money to them and collect interest on them.
Speaker 1:Fuck that why are we paying for it? There's a whole another thing about that.
Speaker 3:It's I don't think it's exactly the way we're saying oh, it is at the end of the day, at the bottom line. That's how it is that, at the end of the day, the fact of the matter is that that that we're borrowing money, we don't have to give to somebody else to fight a war against somebody we don't want to go fight against.
Speaker 1:Essentially, so if we owe them all this money, like how, how are we, how are we head on anything? We're're not. It's my whole point. I'm not talking money wise, I'm talking like defensive, uh, military. Uh, they say we got the best military. How, if we owe them so much money and they got, they're the ones with the power. Basically, if you got, if you're old, the money, I guess you got the power right.
Speaker 3:So guess you got the power right. So, because china's been playing us forever, we don't want to go to war against china. I don't think we have the, but I think china would take us out. I mean, china, dude, that's a lot of freaking soldiers to compete with.
Speaker 1:Yeah but that doesn't mean anything. How are they gonna get here? They got ships, I know, and then we blow their ships up and they will never get to our coastline. But anyways, that ain't what I'm saying. I'm saying why, like money-wise that's what I'm saying there's way more to it than what we're talking Just owing in this and that. No, it's not like that.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:At the end of the day it is, it's not yeah, it is Okay, so why would they keep giving us that Okay?
Speaker 3:Because they want to keep, because their economy is only doing what it's doing, because everything they make is sold in America. We're buying their shit.
Speaker 1:How are we buying it if we owe money?
Speaker 3:That doesn't make any sense, because that's their economy If we didn't buy their products.
Speaker 1:OK, that's what I'm saying. So there's a, there's a benefit for them, for us owing them. Believe that.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying there isn't, but why should all of our money be going to that? Going to what? To other wars that have nothing to do with us, and then interest payments on top of that? We do get payback on that. No, Trump is the only one that went. He went after NATO and made them start paying their fair share. But no, we don't. We did for, like Japan or something. We may pay some back. I think. Yeah, well, that's what.
Speaker 3:I don't even know if that's true, because then we go rebuild Japan, the whole country, or at least two of them, two of the cities.
Speaker 1:Right, I don't know, that's what I said. We're talking about stuff I don't know nothing about. I don't know, that's what I said.
Speaker 3:We're talking about stuff I don't know nothing about. I don't, but common sense will tell you. Whatever you, I mean regardless.
Speaker 1:You're saying common sense, but that is not common sense. That doesn't make any sense. If you owed me, just say $15,000, I'm not going to continue dealing with you until you paid me my $15 million. Or $15,000, whatever I said, you get what I'm saying. Or $15,000, whatever I said, you get what I'm saying. Why would I keep dealing with you?
Speaker 3:Because you can't. Your economy will crap. That's why their economy will take a shit.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. There's way more to it than what we're just saying owing and not owing Right, it's way more than that. It isn't, though.
Speaker 3:We just agree. It was what do you mean?
Speaker 1:Didn't mean we agreed to it, you said, because your economy would crash.
Speaker 3:Their economy would shit because they're just walking all over us. So then there's more to it than just owing, or not right, they don't care because they have the money, because they're selling us all their goods. We just made those goods here and didn't buy them from them. We'd probably have the money too, and they don't want us to figure that out.
Speaker 1:So they just keep loaning the money. That's just what it is, dude. That's exactly so.
Speaker 3:It's not just just them owing or us owing them, it's not just that but we're putting ourselves where we're more and more, further and further in debt to them. Yeah. For other people, not even for us citizens. It's not for us S citizens.
Speaker 1:So let's put it like this we're never paying them that money.
Speaker 3:Never. Oh, I don't agree with that. I think we will. I don't think so. I think that it'll happen real soon actually.
Speaker 1:When have we broke even with them, like what year has just been an even year? Never. We've always been going into debt, into debt. I don't think that's true.
Speaker 3:Okay, I want to say that. I want to say I could be wrong, but I want to say in the 90s we got ourselves up to snuffing where our books were right. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I'd have to look at it, but I think in the 90s we were squared up. I think in the 90s we got squared up. Look it up A hell of a lot closer.
Speaker 1:When's the last time that the US broke even with China. Never we could Google that. I bet never. You bet never. Well, I would say never before 1960.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 1:So if we look at this, this is going to say Huh, it's going to say huh, it's going to say ha ha, never. That's what I'm saying. There's way more to it than just oh and and not Owen, I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 3:You did disagree with it. I didn't, Did you. You are not saying what you what?
Speaker 1:that is not what I agreed to it, I promise you I said there's more to it than just owing or not owing. And you said because? Why did you say because of what? Because their economy crashed. If they didn't, we didn't buy from them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's still putting us at their, at their, at their mercy. It's just like if I owed you 15 grand anything you needed from me I'd have to go take care of it for you, wouldn't you no?
Speaker 1:yes, you know you, wouldn't you turn your back and be fuck you?
Speaker 3:I ain't doing shit until you give me my money, that's exactly what you would say no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you owe me 15, if I owe you 15 grand, anytime you call me, I better come help you for whatever you need, right, you buy, better, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'd cut my losses. I'll tell you that I'd.
Speaker 3:But you see what I'm saying, though I mean you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's not just, it's not, it's not clear, it's not just that we owe them and it's not.
Speaker 3:It is, though at the end of the day it is I mean, at the end of the day, it is At the end of the day you're taking our money and paying it to interest, more than you're paying for military. You're paying for interest, and what is that doing but making us weak and china's kicking our ass in that process. China is just overwhelmingly kicking our ass when it comes to um. When's the last time? What?
Speaker 1:am I putting in here? When's the the US deficit? I guess the US deficit, the US heritage.
Speaker 3:Last time the US had no deficit, here we go, 2001. I told you I thought that they got it in the 90s. I thought I was right about that 2001. So, yeah, it is possible, 100% possible. Okay, so you broke even one year, yeah, and then they kept fucking spending. It's not one year, that's not true. Well, I'm saying that we were completely out of debt with them.
Speaker 3:But the problem is is that this is the problem. But the problem is that this is the problem. So American companies that have had the better technology and things have sent it to China to have them make it Right. Then they copy it, and they copy it and just send it back with a different branding, and there's nothing we can do because they aren't privy to our copyright laws in the United States. So there's absolutely nothing we can do about it Other than not send the shit over. Well see, that's where I think the tariff should be Like. If it comes back without the right branding to the United States that we should, at that point it should be like a 300% tariff. You know what I mean? That's my opinion. I mean, if it comes back and you bring it, if you send back the same exact chip but without Apple's name on it or whatever's name on it. That's American company that sent it over there. If you sent over a copy of it and it breaks our, so you're saying, when it comes in, it should follow our guidelines.
Speaker 3:That's what you're saying yeah when I'm saying right if it breaks our copyright laws, it should be. It should be a three, four hundred five hundred thousand percent tariff on it. That's what I think. If it breaks our copyright laws, I mean, I see where I think that's a fair, I think that's a very fair.
Speaker 1:And you're saying we need it, so how we're gonna no, we already have it.
Speaker 3:They're making it in an american company for an American company, but they start making it for themselves. So they would just send the same thing over, but it would be the American company's version, not their version of it. The problem where that comes into play is they send over a tractor that's using our technology or something. So now you've got to go through the whole tractor and every part in the tractor. You know what I'm saying. That's the problem. That's where that becomes a problem. I think in my opinion, but I still think that it would be. It would make sense. Why would you just let them keep doing that? If it's breaking the copyright laws, there should be something. If you're selling it in the US, there should be something. If you're selling it in the us, there should be. Still doesn't help the fact that if we're getting shipped, in.
Speaker 1:So basically we're getting shipped in because it's cheaper to have it made there and then back. So now we're gonna basically tax ourself more on buying this shit.
Speaker 3:Only if it's, only if it's not got our branding on, if it's not our company's stuff.
Speaker 1:At that point, who cares who's branding it is? You're paying 300 times more.
Speaker 3:Because we probably buy 40% of the products and it's not honestly. It's not America that's the problem with it, because we may even have those copyright laws. The biggest problem is that they can sell iPhones and things like that that they make for us all over the world with no copyright laws whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Well, you know that when you ship it there. So you got to adjust Don't ship the shit there or ship everything there that you could have come back and then put one small, very important part on it that we make here. This way they ain't going to have that part and it's a possibility, or that technology's away from it, or something that's a possibility.
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying is there's more to that too. Like I said, if we're shipping it there to get made, it's cheaper to get it made there. Yeah, China's just bitch slapping us, yeah, so then why are we going to tax ourself basically 300 times more?
Speaker 3:Because China it's cheaper to make shit in China, because they have to put nets around their fucking building, because employees are just jumping out the fucking windows to try and kill themselves.
Speaker 1:I don't care about their nets.
Speaker 3:I do why? Because that's nothing more than slave labor. It's the same thing we started the show with. Well, what I'm saying is is why are we shipping something there?
Speaker 1:because it's cheaper, the same reason we use slaves and the same reason we use illegal immigrants. So we're basically screwing ourself by by recharging ourselves, but it's not us it's independent companies that did that, not us.
Speaker 3:It's not like I did it, it's whoever microsoft is 300 tariff on it.
Speaker 1:So so when it comes back, okay, 1,000%, yeah, so if you're going to send something there to keep your business afloat, you've got to send it there to get it cheaper to come back so you can resell it. So now you're going to charge yourself 1,000% more tariff on it. Well, how does that make any sense?
Speaker 3:No, if you send it. If you send it, no, I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. If you send an iphone over there for them to make the iphone and the iphone comes back, there's no tariff on that. If you send the iphone over there to for them to make it and then all of a sudden a phone starts coming back, that's called the iPill phone. That one's a thousand percent tariff is what I'm saying, not the iPhone, the iPill phone. See what I'm saying, like not allowing them to do it without American companies. The problem is that 60% of what they would be selling is probably being sold in the rest of the world. They're probably making them and just selling them to Israel or to Russia, or you know what I'm saying Because they don't care about our laws either. They don't give a shit about our copyright laws here either, unless you got on a world stage and got a copyright laws on the world stage, which I think would make more sense than having a World Health Organization.
Speaker 3:I just think whatever can't be made here can't be made here. That's not true. It's just cheaper to make it there.
Speaker 1:You ain't. Let me finish. I was saying whatever can't be made here. If there's anything that can't be made here is the only things that should be made somewhere else. Everything can be made here.
Speaker 3:That's what I feel like, that's what I'm saying. It's the same argument I opened up with. It's the argument of slave labor. Basically, china is your slave labor. Basically, illegal immigrants is your slave labor.
Speaker 1:It's just making us feel better about ourselves by sending it there, having it done with slave labor and then bringing it back and say, well, we didn't do it. You know what I'm saying. So it's just bullshit.
Speaker 3:It is, it's bullshit. It is. It is bullshit because employees are jumping off the fricking. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:So when they bounce off the debt. They put them back to work, yeah.
Speaker 3:Sorry boss.
Speaker 1:Had a moment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just had a little moment there. I mean, yeah, that's what they're doing pretty much, yeah. Oh well, speaking of stupid employees, watch this one. I think I might have sent you this video. This is a guy who's coming in to work on our. What was it? It was maybe our pop, I think-flow. I think is what it is.
Speaker 3:Oh my god that is the funniest shit I ever seen. He freaking, walks out and jumps out of the freaking car and it just starts taking off. I don't know if it's rolling. I find it hard to believe that it would roll there, though, don't you? No, it's angled there, for sure it is angled. Okay. So the car wasn't running then?
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so Okay, he just probably didn't put it. I don't know why did he turn it off while it was in drive, though? I don don't know. I don't understand. He was anxious, he wanted to, he wanted to get a beer or do you think maybe that's a stick shift?
Speaker 3:no, I don't think so. I don't know either. It could have been, though I don't think so I don't know, I really don't know, but that was hilarious and I'm sitting here watching it in real time.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to do? I'm upstairs like I'm gonna run down inside.
Speaker 3:Yeah, by the time I run down, it's not gonna be. I ain't gonna be able to stop them. You know what I mean? That's gonna hit slow. For those who just listen. What I was showing was a video of a van that the guy come in. He's a service guy that was here for I believe it was for I don't know if it was for the knives. It may have been the knives, it was either the knife or the multi-flow guy, one of the two and he gets out of the van, opens the door and the van just starts rolling away and then he runs back in it and jumps it, throws a brake on him but stops it. Oh my god, it was so funny though it's not funny at the moment at the table, like like you was gonna run.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't know what to do and it wasn't funny. Then at that point I'm like freaked out, like what the fuck? You know, what am I gonna do here? I mean, I'm all the way up here. I'd have to run all the way down. By then it's probably hit something or ran into something. Yeah, that's what my wife said. Something about what if it hit those propane tanks and it's like, well, they're in the cage and it was just rolling and they're behind that, those pallets.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter if it hit them. Remember that one that hit over there.
Speaker 3:That was full speed yeah, that was nuts too. That was crazy they throttled into them. Yeah, we were all sitting out there then too. It was like it was nuts. I'm like what in the hell just happened? They never put it back. They never put them. They fixed the brick finally, but they never put the propane tanks back. They're like no, hell, no, I ain't doing that.
Speaker 1:Wow that shit was crazy, was crazy? It sure was. Yeah, we watched it live and then we went and re-watched it and re-watched it, and re-watched it.
Speaker 3:It was like what the hell? Well, I got to go bartend, so we got to get off of here. Because I have to bartend, because our poor Azare, you know, she called off last week and we were all like we're like that's just not like. As ray turns out, she had a appendicitis or whatever. She had to have her appendix removed so she had to have surgery. Damn so, as ray's not here and I don't have anyone to cover for me, so and hope we're hoping as ray will get better, I think jess is going to switch with her so that hopefully, maybe by wednesday she'll be able to do it. So we'll see. I'm I'm hoping, but maybe not. If not, I'll be bartending Wednesday too.
Speaker 1:I guess that's understandable.
Speaker 3:No, we said that when it was Azare. We're like that's not like Azare to do such a thing. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, she loves her job.
Speaker 3:No, she's good, she's great. We love Azare. All right, so we're getting out. Buddy, make sure you guys stop up and watch the game, get some food and you have a sexy-ass bartender.
Speaker 1:Hey, when you're, I'll tell y'all.